These days we’re pretty spoiled when it comes to big American V8 muscle cars. On the Ford side, the GT350 is mind-blowingly quick. On the Chevrolet side, the new Corvette Grand Sport is giving its European rivals a good run for their money. And on the Dodge side, the Hellcat Charger and Challenger brothers are a couple of the most powerful production street cars on the road.
While none of the performance machines I mentioned are even close to being classed as expensive, they aren’t at the cheaper end of the spectrum either; they all sit around the $65,000+ mark. So what happens when someone wants something fun, but doesn’t want to outlay that much money?
Well, in comes the Challenger and Charger R/T Scat Pack models.
But how does it take on the real world? Larry and I took turns driving this thing around the mountain roads above Los Angeles to find out.
The Charger R/T
Dodge essentially took its glorious 6.2L V8 from the Hellcat and dropped it into the R/T Scat Pack, minus the supercharger.
This gives the model a ‘modest’ 485hp.
Also, instead of the Hellcat’s 6-piston brakes up front, the Scat Pack gets 4-piston Brembos.
And the computer-adjustable Bilstein suspension was swapped for fixed-rate Bilsteins dampers.
So with all that taken out (and more) this car can’t be much fun then, right?
That’s what I initially thought, but I reminded myself that we’re just spoiled with the best of everything.
And who am I kidding – 485hp is still an insane amount of power for any car, even if it weighs over 4000 pounds.
The suspension, while soft, is great for what it is. It’s also extremely comfortable, especially in normal day-to-day driving, which is what most of us do 99 percent of the time we’re in a car.
The great looks of the car, accompanied with the great sound that it produces made me forget that it sits at $40,000. For being $25,000 cheaper than a Hellcat, it’s good value for money.
The interior is quite nice, and not too much has been changed between this and the Hellcat. Creature comforts like heated seats and leather trim no longer come standard, but they are available as an option.
So what do you guys think? Is $40,000 worth it for a comfortable sedan that can top out at 175mph?
Louis Yio
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''Dodge essentially took its glorious 6.2L V8 from the Hellcat and dropped it into the R/T Scat Pack, minus the supercharger.''
It's the other way around. Dodge first debuted the 6.4 Hemi (a.k.a. Apache) in the 2011 SRT8 models (Charger, Challenger, 300C and Grand Cherokee).
In 2015, they also stuffed the 6.4 into the Scat Pack (sort of a budget SRT8 thing), and also in 2015 they destoked the 6.4,changed 90% of the components, and added a supercharger to make the 6.2 Hellcat.
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I've not - nor will I probably ever - drive either a Scat Pack or Hellcat, but I have this weird feeling that if I bought a Scat Pack, I would feel like I bought the wrong car. Is it just me?
I've been wondering for a very long time, but what does R/T means? My best guess would be Road/Track. Genuinely curious here, I'm from Malaysia so, American metals is a mystery to me.
Paddy McGrath Scat means something very different in Europe I think.
Very different.
AmirIzham It used to stand for Racing Technology. They may have changed that as the official designation so as o avoid any issues with being seen as condoning street racing.
Jordan_Butters There's also that.
I've always been a fan of the Hellcat Charger, and I don't see why a less freakish version would be any less fun... especially on the street.
Something about being able to stuff four of your best friends in a sedan and then scaring the shit out of them with 450+ hp shenanigans just seems too good to pass up...
MTDatsun
AmirIzham You are correct, the original meaning (since 1968) for the R/T moniker was Road/Track, it’s still that today.
It does not, and never did, correlate to Racing Technology. The SRT tag means Street & Racing Technology.
Paddy McGrath Paddy,why? I mean,its like you take 540i instead of //M5. Its not really that wrong aint it? Little bit less power or sharpnes but more everyday usability and lower runing costs...and for a lower price. The only thing is if you care what your neighbours or mates tell you that you dont have highest spec.....the same people who drive Vauxall Corsa.
I know the feel. If I got a quid for every time someone asked why my Sierra isn't a Cosworth I could actually buy one.
But Im perfectly fine with my engine cuz I have to get to the work every day,while my friend with cossie engine has spent more time outside of car being work at than driven. Its ok for weekend warrior,but not as a daily.
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I own a 2013 Awd Charger RT with a 5.7 Hemi at 370 horse ..while not at SRT it's still a great car ..for everyday use .. and with some mods .. a decent track car .. considering it's weight .. it's balanced at nearly 50/50 weight distribution... I added police package sway bars , and Razors edge Strut and Chasis braces .. in addition to a tune Cold air setup and American Racing headers and Corsa exhaust .. Wilwood Brakes.. 2.9 Whipple and BC racing coilovers are next
The Scat Pack and SRT cars have the 6.4L (aka 392, like it says on the side of the car) engine. The Hellcat is the 6.2L version, which is the same block using a shorter stroke, among a few other changes.
392 is a historically significant displacement, in line with the most powerful version of the first generation hemis used in the Chrysler line
the name tho... so bad lol
Paddy McGrath Jordan_Butters
Mopar was just as aware of the various meanings in the 60's when it was first used lol. Scat (when used in this context) is an american colloquial synonym for "get out of here, git, run, skedaddle, get a move on, etc" meaning to go in a hurry.
And no, you definitely wouldn't feel like you've bought the wrong car. You and three of your buddies would be having too much fun making clouds of smoke on demand, sliding around every corner, and listening to some of the most terrific engine noises anywhere to worry about it.
Naturally I love the SP cars but, the T/A and Daytona that replace them soon will be even better! Also the SRT Demon. http://www.ifyouknowyouknow.com
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Holy Scat! That's a nice car for €37,000/£31,000 compared to likewise BMW's which with a similar power to weight ratio cost around €9000 more. But I guess this case it is the literal definition of the phrase "paying more for the name"!
Why can't they just kill this thing off already? It looks almost nothing like an original Charger, especially from the rear.. The rear looks like a bloated Dodge Dart.
i would put the money into a benz before picking this up.
Great photos Larry!
How's the 8 speed trans?
It's not supposed to.. but if you know anything there are some styling cues from . Past Charger in it .. why should they kill it ? It Sells .. if you want a sedan with this kind of power .. you'll spend a lot more elsewhere
EvolveWRC It shifts really hard actually. This thing is such a monster with traction control off.
When you leave it in regular eco mode it shifts super early, which can be a little annoying, but it's saving fuel.
Stefan Kotze Thank you.
jimmy_neutron Which Benz has the same sort of price point with that much power?
370 Hemi Oh, trust me I know.
johnbezt Or good?
JeffTCurtis Post some pics of your ride.
MTDatsun It's really fast, and it's so loud for a stock exhaust.
Paddy McGrath I'll get a Hellcat for when you come by next time.
Larry Chen johnbezt I feel like if I have to explain why it's bad things will get *ahem* .. messy.
Just Did .. next time your in Connecticut.. come take photos ... or if you know anyone ... near me ... we can put the car on a lift and see the suspension mods .. I'm Looking to have the BC racing setup In soon .. Whipple might be awhile ..I have to take some with the strut braces ..
I probably would have bought a Challenger a long time ago if they weren't so big and heavy :(. Really wish they didn't use the LX platform for a coupe.
It's heavy.. but it's a more useable car than a Camaro and Mustang for Everday use
It's a step down from an srt8 which can be had even slightly used for less money - especially given the special pricing dealers are often tacking on. It's also the same price as a far more everyday usable AWD pilot which probably trounces it in the really tight twistys and anything approaching inclinent weather.
We are talking performance car.. Honda Pilot ?how does that even fit in the conversation
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