Speedhunters Garage: Introducing Project 964

This project intro has been a long time coming – three years to be precise. Three years of indecision. Three years of trying to make sense of it all.

It began when I had an epiphany to save a friend’s old 964 Porsche Carrera 2 Tiptronic. He’d owned it for the better part of 20 years, but the onset of issues meant it was used less and less until it was eventually parked up outside. It sat there for years.

After posting so many random pictures of abandoned and semi-abandoned cars around Tokyo, this was my chance to actually do something and save the 964. Sure, it hadn’t exactly been left to rot like some of my other abandoned car finds, but it was deteriorating, so now was the time to step in. I envisioned it restored as a perfect Tokyo daily driver – compact, oozing character and with a slush-box to alleviate the pain of negotiating stop-and-go city traffic.

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It was spring 2018 when a deal was done and the keys were mine. I thought I could drive the car home, but the engine wouldn’t fire and it wasn’t a flat battery. A flatbed transporter was required and the 964 was hauled off to a shop to be assessed.

A few months later it was ‘fixed’. You’ll shortly hear why I’ve used inverted commas, but nevertheless, this time I was able to start the Porsche and drive it away.

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I was initially happy, but during the short 5km drive home, I noticed blue smoke emitting from the rear of the car.

This continued on for a few weeks. At first it wasn’t bad and only happened when I was sitting in traffic. Then it started doing it all the time, and the oil stains on the driveway increased in size.

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After a few weeks of this, I knew I couldn’t keep driving it. So, with a looming house move and general life events taking priority, I parked the car at friend’s secure lockup outside the city. At the time I wasn’t sure how long it would remain there, but it turned out to be almost two years. If you follow me on Instagram, this explains why you saw the 964 and then didn’t for a long time.

It All Starts Here
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Fast forward to last winter when I was finally in a position to re-rescue the Porsche, and once and for all (hopefully) fix the engine issues. Before that though, I wanted to start off my ‘Project 964′ coverage with a baseline shoot.

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In between bringing it home for the first time and putting it in storage, I never washed the car, so how you see it here is exactly how I purchased it.

So what are we looking at exactly? The little yellow bird is a late-model 964 Carrera 2 with 170,000km (just over 100,000mi) on the clock. When it was sold new in 1993 it was dark blue, but around 12 years ago the former owner had it painted Speed Yellow – his favorite Porsche color. The car is otherwise completely stock; nothing has been upgraded or modified, which means it still rides on very tired factory shocks and 16-inch wheels.

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This is an official Mizawa Porsche dealer car, which is a sought after thing in Japan. It’s a big deal to have that little sticker on the back window. Once the car is cleaned up and looks presentable, I think I’ll drop by the dealership it was maintained at for most of its life and see if I can get a fresh one.

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For the last couple of years I’ve thought hard about the direction to take with this project, but for the time being my focus is on getting it back into a functional and reliable state. Even with tired bushes, shocks and top mounts, the car handles well, so I’m excited about what we can do in this department to really refine things.

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While from a distance the 964 looks pretty tidy – something helped in part by the bright paint – up close are the telltale signs of a car that’s sat outside for an extended period of time. This is no more obvious than out back, where the taillights and center garnish have not only faded, but have a web of cracks running through them. The upper rubber taillight seals have also perished, which means water is getting into the housings.

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I’m pretty amazed that the active rear spoiler still works – although somewhat sporadically. It goes up and down at speed when it feels like it, and sometimes it gets stuck in the ‘up’ position. There’s a ton of dirt and grime underneath, and you might be able to see that the flexible section that folds closed when the spoiler is lowered is broken, so this will need replacing.

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The brakes will also need some work. I’m aware that 964s are known for having a very wooden-feeling brake pedal and little-to-no feedback and progression, but thing aren’t being helped here with heavily-worn discs and pads. The calipers could obviously do with a refresh too.

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However, the first thing that needs to be addressed is the engine. The 3.6L flat-six needs work, and in a future post I will show you just what the issue is. I’m confident it will slowly but surely return to good health.

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Moving inside, with this originally being a dark blue car it’s no surprise that the cabin features blue carpeting and dark blue leather seats and trim. I don’t mind that the car has been repainted, as Speed Yellow is far more exciting color than boring dark blue, and the interior is still a good match to the exterior.

Again, from a distance all looks good, but there are lots of things in need of attention.

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First up, the old DVD navigation unit and analogue TV tuner mounted under the glovebox needs to be binned. Same goes for all of the associated wiring stuffed inside the dash.

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I’ve already disposed of the LCD screen that was attached to this metal mount, but now the mount itself needs to be removed. Initially I was happy it wasn’t screwed on, but as the adhesive holding it in place just won’t budge, I’m now scared that removing it cleanly – and without ruining the plastic beneath – won’t be possible. If anyone has any good advice for how to get this thing off as cleanly (and painlessly) as possible, be sure to let me know in the comments.

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For how retro the Kenwood head unit is, I’ll be swapping this out for something that allows me to stream music wirelessly. If you’re wondering why the ashtray is open, that’s because it won’t stay closed, so I need to take a closer look at the mechanism and get that fixed too.

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Then there is this thing, the HVAC unit, which doesn’t work at all.

The ETC (electronic toll collection) card device also needs to be relocated into the glovebox, simply because I don’t like seeing tacked-on stuff like this in the cabin.

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The seats are nice and comfortable and it’s amazing that every switch still works. First up, I’ll be seeing how much better I can get them to look with a proper clean and a long overdue moisturize. The leather is very dry, but at least it’s not showing much wear and tear.

I will definitely be replacing the steering wheel for something more fitting of the overall image I’m going for; I’m pretty sure the airbag won’t work after 28 years anyway.

The JDM safety warning labels on the driver’s side door pocket lid/arm rest are still there, if a tad worn. I quite like the layout of the doors as there is so much storage available, but I’m not ruling out simple RS-style door cards with the iconic colored straps in place of the handles.

There is mold in places and a ton of dirt that has accumulated, so a deep interior clean will need to happen.

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Having been left outside for so long the dash top is scarred with cracks and splits. I’ve been looking into dash replacement costs, and let’s just say I don’t want to think about it for a while…

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Finally, I need to properly remove what’s left of some old tint film, which at the moment makes it almost impossible to see out the rear of the car.

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Up front there isn’t much to see. I just have to give the frunk a thorough clean out.

Initial Thoughts
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So what’s it like to drive? As I mentioned, it’s a compact car, which makes it pleasure to navigate around narrow Tokyo back streets. If I had a choice, I would have gone with a manual 964, but truth be told, the Tiptronic transmission is actually pretty decent for its vintage. It could do with a 5th gear, but it does make full use of the ample spread of torque developed by the flat-six engine. What’s interesting to me is how it only ever really selects 1st gear when you request a prompt getaway from the lights.

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I blame Singer for getting me here. I drove one of their cars years ago, and after that I knew I’d somehow get myself into a 964.

There isn’t an end goal, I’m just taking it step by step and attempting to address the car’s biggest issues one at a time until I get it to a decent place. Then I can start thinking about a 3.8L rebuild and manual G50 swap…

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I haven’t even driven the car over 1,000 km yet, but it’s been an experience already.

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There’s something about these cars that newer cars just can’t match; an underlying character that makes even the most mundane of drives fun. It’s also fun bumping into other people enjoying these older 911s, and in Tokyo there are quite a few.

Setting The Theme
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Before I go, I want to show you my first aftermarket pick-up for Project 964.

I reached out to the guys at Formawerx, and they shipped me out one of their Ignition 911 billet keys. Machined from a block of 303 stainless steel and sporting the Porsche insignia, it’s a real thing of beauty. It also sets a theme for the build.

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It’s a reminder of what I am trying to achieve here. A restoration – one that keeps the essence of the underlying car alive, but at the same time adds some form and function.

Let’s see how we get on…

Dino Dalle Carbonare
Instagram: dino_dalle_carbonare
dino@speedhunters.com

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1

Just rip everything off including that radio and restore the whole dash

2

Pray it's not superglue, else saturated with nail polish remover bit by bit and scrape with some plastic spatula

3

spatulas....or old plastic credit cards, or any similar type of cards too. find them smaller and easier to bend/handle in awkward spots

Author4
Dino Dalle Carbonare

You make it sound easy lol

5

Dental floss between the bracket and the dash. If it’s foam tape or a similar tape product it will separate at the mating surface when you pul the floss through.

If it’s crazy glue the floss won’t do anything and you might as well use a dremel at that point because that bracket and the dash are one.

6

Easy: yes. Fast and 100% guaranteed: no.
Worst case scenario is its damaged underneath. The top of the dash is already cracked and damaged. Have the damage repaired/smoothed and the whole thing flocked in alcantara. I imagine that'll be cheaper than the replacement option, even if only as a temporary solution. Who doesn't love the suede dash look?

7

That bit by bit part will keep you hunched over the dash for hours wahahaha, only if you are lucky it works.

8

I dream of a 964, sadly I think it will only ever be a dream.

Author9
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Dreams are there to be turned into reality!

10

In Japan, only if you’re rolling in money or have god’s personal request line for miracle finds. Otherwise bs

11

Congrats Dino on that new project. It will be an interesting one patience will be tested on this one. Good luck and enjoy the build.

Author12
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Patience tested? Check!

13

Hi Dino,

cool pick and amazing color!
If you keep the Tiptronic, keep it simple...not too far toward the RS-clone...japanese 17' wheels, italian seats/wheel...

Will look with pleasure for your progress!

Best,
Louis.

Author14
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Simple is always best. Or sometimes not? We shall see how it evolves.

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RS-style door cards look cool. But if you're going to be using this car for more than just the occasional Sunday drive I can tell you stock-style door inners are the way to go.

Author16
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Yeah not sure RS type ones would suit a lazy Tiptronic cruiser

17

Those aftermarket keys are a smart looking bit of kit, very OEM+

Sadly I keep getting targeted ads for them now and I'll never own a car as nice as this!

Author18
Dino Dalle Carbonare

They are a tactile experience in your pocket! Wait, that came out wrong....

19

Hey Dino! Really nice post. I'm looking forward to see the progress on Your 964 in the future! : ) Regarding Your problem with removing the glued-on bracket: i had similar issues with removing the toll-collect box which was glued to the center console of my R34 GTT - i used a tar remover spray that is sold by SONAX here in Germany and it worked perfectly for me, leaving no marks etc. behind. Maybe worth a try if You can get sth. like this in Japan.

Author20
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Thank you for the advice Nico, this will be the first option I try!!

21

You're welcome! Wish You good luck with it! ; )

22

Can’t wait for this series. Don’t leave us hanging too long this time. I’ll use it as motivation to work on my project too.

Author23
Dino Dalle Carbonare

I'll try to do my best!

24

Here again to say speedhunters photographers are ballers

25

I wish you the best with this exciting new project! If only my dream of having a black 964 become true...

Author26
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Thanks and good luck in making your dream come true!

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Steve Masters

Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46 was made for these cars!

Author28
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Off to research...

29

Ti scrivo in italiano che faccio prima :D
Complimenti, è fantastica e il sogno di molti appassionati, me compreso.
L'airbag potrebbe benissimo funzionare, ho visto da poco una miata del 1990 che ha subito un indicente di recente e l'airbag era scoppiato. Concordo però sul fatto che non sia il massimo da vedere. Qua ci starebbe bene un Momo Prototipo con razze nere. Per quanto riguarda le crepe sul cruscotto, penso che senza cambiare tutto - costerà una follia - si possa far rivestire in vinile o pelle. Un bravo artigiano saprà sicuramente metterci mano.
Complimenti ancora e in bocca al lupo per il progetto!

Author30
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Grazie Antonio. Un bel Momo ci starebbe proprio bene. Per il cruscotto dovro un'po' vedere, ma l'idea di ricoprirlo sarebbe la piu' facile di sicuro.

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Hi Dino, try to use thin wire, and add a little bit of heat to binned this piece of junk glued to your dashboard. It should help you to remove It and not damge anything around. Good luck!

Author32
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Got two methods to try out, thanks all for the comments and advice!

33

This is great that you're resucing this Dino. I'm imagining slow crusing it through Tokyo with a City Pop soundtrack, and I'm totally ok with that!

Author34
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Needs a more fruity exhaust!

35

like someone already said, bin the idea of getting that mount off without scars in combination with the cracks .Even if you can manage it , i would bet ten bucks , that after a while the cracks will make you search for replacement/upholstery anyway ..so save your time

Otherwise congrats to that yellow 964, the combination with the dark blue interior is really nice

How about making it a tame little yellowbird and get some Ruf wheels ;)

Author36
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Nah not into going for a Ruf look or anything else if there is no substance to support the actual look. Rather create something that makes sense to me

37

That automatic shows how sometimes we have to make compromises in order to get what we want
All jokes aside I'm really excited for Project 964 and if you don't mind I would suggest a manual swap (because 90s era autos are dogshit)

38

Hey, in regards to your concern about the interior, most of it can be done pretty inexpensively. The dash doesn't need to be replaced. A shop can refurbish it pretty easily. They just sand it flat, fill with dashboard filler, and texture paint to match original look.

Pulling your dash and having it repaired would and allow you to make all the interior fixes at once. Also, if you want black carpet, you can just dye it.

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They sell brand new dashes from Porsche themselves and they aren't all THAT expensive. I think it's like $800. The problem is labor. On the old air cooled 911s, pulling the dash meant pulling the windshield since 4 (I think) of the bolts are 110% inaccessible with the windshield installed. Be particularly careful with the rounded bits between the dash and the knee pad in the corners of the dash - They're moulded fragile foam, and can be impossible to source.

As for the screen mount, take some dental floss and use it like a saw to cut through the goo holding the screen to the dash. It won't harm the dash, and it cuts through glue really, really nicely. After that it's a matter of finding the appropriate solvent to remove the residue. If you're dedicated, simple soapy water can do the trick.

Author40
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Yeah I noticed that there are both OEM Porsche dashes available as well as non OEM ones at even better prices. I also read you have to pull the windshield, that would be nice to replace too as it's seen better days, We shall see...

41

lol SH garage is loaded with some high profile machinery these days!

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Metal Stuck On Dash

hair dryer and fishing line to remove the plate and a chunk of the adhesive, the rest is patience and solvent

Author43
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Thanks for the advice!

44

Congrats with the new ownership, Dino. Yellow is a superb choice!
While you are "discovering" your newly owned car, be wary of the tin worms.
They love to hide in places where you least expect, and has a nasty habit not leaving the car.

Nevertheless, I am sure the yellow bird is in very good hand because owner Dino is 110% petrolhead.

Author45
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Yes there are many surprises with these cars! Sort of scares me when you peel stuff back or remove things... lol

46

Welcome to the ownership world of Porsche! It’ll be tough to leave. If you haven’t already, I suggest joining ‘Porsche Club of America” if you haven’t already. Not certain if there is a host club in Japan but I bet there is. It heightens the ownership experience. I look forward to your updates. And do lots of reading on the tiptronic. A lot more to them than you might think. Congrats!

Author47
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Thanks Andy, I do lurk around on various forums. Just fascinating to learn about these cars. All very new to me which makes is so much fun

48

How has no one said it yet? Flock the dash! Actually useful and very much fits in with the OEM+/restomod situation.

Also, the SH garage has so many sweet 911's and R34's. How about one of you gets a C5 ZO6 just for something different

49

American cars? What're those? - Every SH contributor ever.

As an f-body owner, one can dream though!

Author50
Dino Dalle Carbonare

I'd imagine the dash needs to be in good condition prior to flocking

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Oskar Pettersson

Glad to see this badboy finally making it to SH, looking forward to following it's transformation!
In some way I kind of like the scars the car have gotten over the years, if nothing else it will be very satisfying to fix it up

Author52
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Took a while! LOL

53

Well done for taking up such a project ! I'm going through this myself with my motorbike at the moment - bought a low-mileage 2001 Triumph Bonneville which had stood for a long time and needed a lot, and I mean a LOT of work. Bought it for cheap but the cost of buying parts for it has almost exceeded the cost of buying a mint one. But I'm happy that I'm saving the old girl. Currently I have the engine out for a total respray as the paint has peeled off the block due to the OEM carburettors leaking all over the place .

54

Seeing the list of thing to remove from the interior gives me stress lol, hope you can get them off without breaking any of the plastics:) (also, instead of a manual, wouldn't it be cool to put a pdk in there... just a thought.

Author55
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Oh I've thought about that! Might be a little too complex to put it mildly

56

Ya the conversion might be a tad difficult. How does the tiptronic drive?

Author57
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Honestly for such an old 4-speed slush box it's actually ok. Upshifts are sharp and quick, downshifts are soo goddam slow and jerky though. It usually stays in second gear unless you require a faster than usual get away from the lights and the long ratios are horrible for fuel consumption in Tokyo where the average speed for a car is about 25 km/h. I try using it in manual mode once in a while, usually when I want it to stay in second or third through twisty roads. PDK would be a dream to have, but provided you can actually make it physically fit you'd need to run modern electronics to allow it to function as it should. Prices of G50 manuals are shocking, a transaxle sequential might be cheaper lol

58

I suppose the tall gear ration could be fixed with a new final drive ratio, and see as you are having an oil leak, the engine might have to come out anyways:) I wonder if you can reprogram the trans to shift differently, idk but it seems the type of thing porsche people might make (no stereotyping intended just that vintage porsche owners seems to be really interested in niche and quirky details).

Author59
Dino Dalle Carbonare

I'll see how I get on, but honestly not planning to do anything to the Tip, aside from dumping it for a MT lol

60

i blame Singer as well.

Author61
Dino Dalle Carbonare

I'll send them the bill for restomods lol

62

Strong purchase and exceptional first addition. I see greatness ahead.

Author63
Dino Dalle Carbonare

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

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