POLL: MCLAREN P1 FIRST IMPRESSIONS
During this week’s #IAMTHESPEEDHUNTER Jonathan showed some early images of McLaren’s all new Supercar, the P1. We won’t know more until next week’s Paris Motor Show, but already the internet is filling with speculation and feedback about the new car. Naturally, expectations are high given the strong words McLaren has used to describe the new project.
For our weekly poll we thought we’d get some first impressions on the car from the Speedhunters community. Do you think the P1 looks too much like the 12C? Is it a worthy successor to the legendary McLaren F1?
Vote and discuss below!
-Mike
I agree with others, it's one hell of an ugly car, the design is way over the top, pure overkill.
Can't wait to learn more about the aerodynamics, I think they're going to be something special. Three inlets in the fascia, two extractors on the hood, intakes on the lower sides, intakes on the upper doors, intake on the roof, extractors directly over the motor, gigantic diffuser, and some type of extractors on the decklid as well... the guys on Ferrarichat are claiming that it features a blown diffuser a la Formula 1.
I think the design is a total failure it reminds me of the autobacs arta geraya which is quite sad because it's not the best looking japanese car. The McLaren F1 looked brilliant and this looks like rubbish i think they should fire their designer. No matter how fast this car is anywhere it isn't a sucessor to the F1 but a shame.
You're spot on as far as the similarities in design. I'm not too sure about the shape at this point, but I think it's one of those cars that will grow on most us eventually (especially considering what the rear end looks like).
MiroslavKandov Having seen new pictures I'm less frusrated now the Design looks fine but the angle in the picture above isn't showing the good things of the design. Actually the car looks fine. If you don't see it as a successor to the mclaren f1 it will be a great car.
How a supercar is supposed to look like. Extreme. I think the current trend of supercar styling is to safe. This in my opinion is in the right direction as far as styling goes. At the time the f1 was a tech marvel so i am wondering whats under the new skin tech wise. Look wise i think its a worthy successor.
I hope this thing doesn't overheat in traffic as the F1 used to lol
This car is good but going into the specifics of the F1, it still holds a promising title for itself. And that is the fact it's still the worlds fastest naturally aspirated production car in the world. And it's getting to be a rather old car to a lot of peoples standards. The styling of that car will never get old, and can never truly be replaced.
It looks like McLaren took an ASL Garaiya and updated it with their own styling. Not terribly impressed, yet.
Loved the look of the 12c, this, not so much.
The P1 looks amazing the rear end is the best angle from the pics. I think it has enough to distinguish it from the 12C. And they havent released what engine it will have its just speculation that it will use the v8 and kers.
i love this 1) for the company who it represents
2) the boomerang theme is eveywhere if u look (like wheres waldo) the hood vents/ the brake ducts/ the fender/tail lights
3) Frank Stepehenson designed it. great pebble beach interview wit Mike Spinelli made me appreciate his skill and contributions
3.5) Frank Stephenson-- i wikid him and saw the motherfather speaks 7 languages!!
4) the F1 roof scoop
5) the F1 door streaks that are now more aero at a F12 Berlinetta level
evryones has their tastes but i believe the details are going to look insane in public and eventually it will be undeniable
vroomtothetomb PLEASE!! Boomerang? It's a Kiwi.
Pancakes vroomtothetomb
lol sorry mate
vroomtothetomb Hahahah doesn't upset me but of all the things the McLaren Kiwi could be mistaken for a Boomerang is pretty classic.
PancakesThanks. learn something new everyday. cheers!!
I like it better than the previous design but i couldnt help but see a Veilside fortune kitted RX7 at first glance.
Its weird looking at it SHOULD give me a stiffie but it just doesnt....its ok i guess....
The MP412-C and the P1 are SO far beyond the McLaren F1 it isn't even worth comparing them. Worthy successor? Please. The McLaren F1 isn't a worthy precursor to these amazing machines :D Don't get it twisted.
andrewhake Except for the fact everything on this car is computerized and the cost of production is so far through the roof with a shitload of technology you don't need. The F1 was simple and pure. And it's hard to beat a center driving position when it comes down to track driving or shitty highway traffic going through a city.
Ultimate drivers car doesn't need any set number of cylinders, it just needs to be the ultimate car for drivers.
The F40 had a V8. I would consider that an ultimate drivers car.
I don't like the looks. It's too extravagant, too ghastly. The F1 looked like it was a hell of a car but it also looked like it could be civilized. This just looks like it's made to beat the lap time record at the Ring and that's it. There's no class.
I think its absolutely different opposite 12c..design is absolutely perfect... lines is clear and sexy smooth but sharp like razor.
I'm really not impressed. I like that the headlights are shaped like the Mclaren badge but that's about it. Definitely nowhere near as pretty as an F1
Seriously, how big of a smile can a car have?! Mazda had a thing going but McLaren took an extra step to make their smile on their cars even bigger!!
LouisYio It probably has a lot to smile about :P
The car is gorgeous. To me, it's lines and profile are more alike to Koenigsegg, or Pagani Zonda. It has to be a pretty difficult task to top the F1. Fede made a good point, and I can see what he means. I'm sure the developers at McLaren know the same-- you can't replicate the F1 or it's influence on the world. So, since McLaren can't, they don't need to follow some predetermined path with design or the way performance is delivered. I'm not disappointed, actually, I feel the looks are way better than the 12C because the P1 seems to be an honest attempt at a new creation. The rear is sexy too.
More I see it more i like it :) It's good that it has ultra high tech hyper car looks on it.
The first one looked like a Tesla, this one looks like a ASL Garaiya
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ja/archive/5/50/20070415093205!ASL-Garaiya.jpg
it doesnt look good to me! i agree it looks fast and 'mental' but not exactly nice :/
I think it looks like a suped up version of the mp4-12c aerodynamic wise, probably a testiment to how good the 12c's aero is. But i want to see some truley rediculous performance numbers from this beast
the real question is: will the driver be centered in the cockpit? never heard of a better place to put one. as far as looks, it's a bit extreme for my tastes.
looks rly good. at least this one has some character by looking at it.
It looks promising, but I honestly think only time will tell.
If "It looks great, but nothing will ever live up to the F1" was an option, I'd pick that.
Where is the "Ugly" button ?
The Mp4-12C is a not revolutionary, but beautiful design, but this just looks like a Nike Air Max shoe...
Might get sometime to get use to the outer appearance.
It'll be bloody fast for sure but it won't be the true successor to the F1 imo.
I'm waiting for a winged version of it...if it will be built.
This may be the F1 successor, but only because it's made by the same company...I mean, the F1 was meant to be the ultimate driver's car: no ABS, non assisted steering, no TC, NA engine, RWD, central driving position, lightweight.
This cars has KERS, a twin turbo engine, probably the hydraulic suspensions from the 12C..
Gordon Murray himself said the only car that got close to the F1 in terms of philosophy was the Zonda: light, carbon tub, NA V12, and so on.
I'm sure this car will be supremely fast, but it will be no F1.
Fede I agree 100%
Having spoken, at length, with a McLaren rep, having sat in an MP12C, and btw, not ever having 300k in my pocket to spend, McLaren seems to have the right people in play to make you love the brand. So it is with slight bias that I rate this car so highly. I have seen an F1 in person, in fact it was Ralph Lauren's car, at the Boston Museum of Art. Initially the MP12C didn't have awe inspiring looks on paper, but once I understood the car better, I realized it was a technological powerhouse. No anti roll bars? Say no more. So this car, not only is expressive on paper, but if I ever get to see one in person, I'm certain the earth will momentarily stop.
well i must admit that its design is definitely less common than a 12c and at the first time i saw this photo i thought "the F1 successor!!!" but i don't want to be so enthusiastic at the moment and i want to see the final work ;)
however i give a look also at the other points of view and i like it a lot except for the back....it reminds me those mazda prototype XD...mmm..the Furai oh jeez...in these month i start to appreciate the huayra's back, quite gorgeous for a MR layout car. You know what those old latins said thousand years ago "de gustibus non disputandum est". Anyway i hope that McLaren takes the P1 at the same place (or better) of the F1, because the 12c is not minimally comparable with it in my humble opinion.
See ya!
Alex
P1 finally an easy name to remember :-)
Don't know about the perfs, but the design is for sure more convincing than the MP4-12C's one.
Aisakey I think I prefer the MP4. I like to think of its design as a blank canvas, something easy modified to suit the owner. I suppose we need these ultimate speed machines around, but to me the MP4 offers some of the same freedoms as a Nissan GTR and that extra accessibilty has more dream appeal. lol if I make any sense...
Well, maybe, but I remember when I saw the MP4 for the first time, I thought it somehow lacked of originality, it was a bit too much like many other cars of its class, I was quite disappointed (especially when you think back on what McLaren did before with the F1). I would prefer a GTR just because of its unusual look. But yeah, I see what you mean, it's just a matter of opinion after all ... : D










I'm okay with the design. F1 was not that great in design either but it get the job done. That is going fast!
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