In yesterday’s Evo 9 feature from Dubai, I talked a bit about how the Evo’s reputation was built in different parts of the world. Everything said about the Evo can also be applied to its rival the Subaru Impreza and I figured now would be as good a time as any for these two AWD legends to face off in our weekly Speedhunters poll.
For two cars so similar in spec and purpose, Evo vs Impreza is one the fiercest rivalries in modern automotive history. I know there are many who dig both (myself included) but when it comes down to it, which of these two AWD rally-inspired machines will you choose?
Vote and discuss below!
-Mike
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Imprezza
Impreza. Dat sound...
If you are comparing the current models, then I must choose the Subaru. Dont get me wrong though, I just like the older Evolution models. And Subaru......well, they just haven't disappointed yet.
This is gonna cause quite the fanboy war...
Personally I think it depends which generation Evos and Subies we're comparing. But overall I prefer an Evo. They've really proven themselves as powerful machines with massive potential. I always felt like Subarus have more fans only cause they sound "nicer", similar to Honda. No hate, just using an example. Call me crazy but I personally never enjoyed the sound of a boxer engine.
this is hard!!!
On on hand you have the awesome looks of the Evo and on the other that iconic Scooby sound!
Suby only because I don't like where the Evo X went, if it was Evo 9 n earlier vs Suby then Evo
To maybe heat up the discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CfWdoSOTk
I've owned both of the previous models, and I've driven the newer ones, honestly it's almost a draw for me. I prefer the Evo's looks and it's handles better, so that tips my hand.
Too bad that the Evo X will be the last of it's kind. Hopefully Mitsubishi figures out a way to make a hybrid that doesn't suck shit.
Subaru!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epaXw-Iw4SU
Love your own. I'd go Suby! Unless its an Evo3. hahaha!
Subaru all the way. Way better customer support, and a sport division that still exists and cares about the product it produces.
@Mil4s the current sti is more refined now.
I prefer the Hatchback version of the Impreza, but still Impreza
The Subarus have got much more character than the evos and I think Subaru is more of an unique brand due to all their cars being AWD rather than Mitsubishi that also make dull FWD cars to keep the company rolling. But this is me, love them both <3 STI > EVO
top gear test isn't fair 2.5su n 2.0evo
Love the old EVO II & III but Subaru is still my overall favorite.
@oneraceing The Evo IV, my favourite <3
Subaru Power Bro.
eu amo os dois!!!!shauhsuah
Test drove a 2012 STi and 2011 Evo GSR this last weekend. The Evo is now in my garage. Nuff said.
El evo sin duda
@Dekro I think Hondas sound nice, but I doubt that Honda attracts fans with sound at all. One can only hear the 'weedwacker' comment so much. Either way, I think what you're getting at all boils down to marketing. Subaru markets the STI so much more than Mitsubishi does with the Evo. When the 12-25 year old sees Ken Block hooning around in an Impreza, or even when they watch WRC clips of old, Subaru makes sure they stand out.
@Dekro Also, Subaru has a 'lesser' STI available, the base WRX. It's cheaper, but still packs a great punch for the money. Mitsubishi offers the base Lancer, and no one wants those.
The Subaru is the thinking man's choice.
Subaru for life.
From every evo and impreza models ever, my favorite is the 22b impreza. But i have to go with evo, i just love the evo X and the old makkinen edition
@R3d Baron
hahahaha good one agaist mitsubishi and their now dead ralliart. that now only puts mudflaps to the base model lancers
I'll take the Subaru because a base Lancer isn't AWD, and even the base Impreza is.
we AWD fans will suffer a lot. with the polution rules subaru have stoped importing STI's to britain (i believe its a start to stop their production) and mitsubishi have said they are not making more evos ='(
this is a hard one. each side has so many high points (Tommi Makkinen on both sides, what a champ, plus those old videos of mcrae barely keeping old 2.5RS imprezas planted) and so many lows (usually in the form of yobbos, or the most current models being both fat and not that great except with numbers that don't matter)
i'll let Mine's settle the tie for me
Impreza, because i got one! But always respect the Evo! ; )
Both have good looking early models, both have ugly new models. but cause i had a lan evo 3 i like them more lol.
Both have good looking early models, both have ugly later models. but cause i had a lan evo 3 i like them more lol.
i have the 2010 wrx so im bias, but the boxer engine layout with lower center of gravity and linked to world class awd system is just so much frickin fun to toss around.
1995 ford taurus
I'm going to go Evo X over the latest Impreza, but GC Turbo 2000 for the overall win.
Love both but to me the Subaru always had the "cool" factor.
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Love both for sure but to me the Subaru always had the "cool" factor.
http://youtu.be/59dHABgEAIw
Current models, Subaru destroys Mitsu. But racing wise Mitsu destroys Subaru. Their Group N Lancer, Lancer WRC2005, etc. are so cool.
Make an option called "They are both terrible cars", so I can pick it... (I'm talking about the street-car versions, of course)
I voted for the Subie but I have to say I like them both. From the Evo camp, I like the IV the most.
i'll take a nissan pulsar gti-r
It's nice to see everyone so far being civil about this poll!
As an 11 STi sedan owner I can tell you a few facts. First the hatch is far better than the sedan. The hatch is shorter, more user friendly, and theres way more Parts. Don't get me wrong! I LOVE the sedan, but I love the 03-07 sedans more. Second the old sedan Is more pure, more raw and most important they're what got me to buy a STi. Growing up watching WRC I just loved those cars. Third! The STi isn't as well put together as the Evo. I'm part of a subi club and have friends with Evo x's, every time the evos come out I always say the same thing, " the Evo's interior is more solid" and it's true! Own an STi then get in a used Evo and you'll hear how the subi bangs and rattles ALL THE DAMN TIME.
Lastly the Evo is more aggressive, easier to get power out of, has better warranty, and easier to fit wheels. It was such a pain to fit my enkei 18x10.5 22 off set wheels. But on an Evo they fit like a glove.
Over all they're both amazing, you can't go wrong with either. But the Evo is a better car in most aspects.
Title is a bit messy - should be EVO vs STi, or Lancer vs Impreza.
Otherwise it would be no argument whatsoever. an 'EVO' IS better than a base 'Impreza'!
re EVO vs STi though; i honestly really consider them the same car. They are just so so similar, that referring to them as 'Evo/Sti' when talking about them or comparing to something else, makes perfect sense.
They've always been small 4door sedans, with 4wheel drive, and 4cylinder turboed engines. they make the same sort of power, same performance, and have the same tricks that make them so damn good.
In theory, I've always liked the STi more.
both GC vs CP9A, and GD vs CT9A (i'll ignore the new ones for the moment).
- I like the fact the engine is north/south, with the correct drivetrain layout.
- I prefer the sound of the tuned boxer
- It had frameless glass, and the overall trim build quality seemed slightly nicer.
In the EVO's defense though; its always seemed more hardcore, and seems to take much more of a beating. They just seem so much stronger and over-built mechanically.
Over 2011/12 I owned an EVO 5 (along with the 6.5, my FAVOURITE EVO), and it was an absolutely brilliant car. Point-to-Point, in acceleration, grip, and braking.. It was so damn impressive. What they do with relatively minimal power is fantastic, and would absolutely blow similar-powered Silvia/Skyline/Supra/genericrwdsportscar away.
I only sold it as i was afraid I'd kill someone in it. Drive It anywhere near 10/10ths (/its full potential) on the street, and you're seriously moving along.. well past the point an accident would be anything minor...
Other than that; as much as I'd always be tempted to buy an STi (GC8 v5 or 6); after seeing first-hand how damn good the EVO's are, I'd probably never bother taking the punt.
..and I imagine that is the case for many others who are owning one side or the other..!
They're both awesome cars, but I'm going to have to vote EVO.
From a tuning point of view, Evo all the way. The 4G63 and 4B11 I-4 engines are built like brick shithouses. They flow like crazy and are extremely resilient to knock. Ask any tuner. By contrast, the Subaru boxer engine is very prone to knock and has known issues with ringlands cracking. Also, the earlier Impreza 5-speed garnered the reputation of the glass case tranny.
From a driver's and owner's point of view, the Impreza is the better car. The layout of the powertrain is much more intuitive. The cabin feels richer and the exhaust note sounds meaner (thank you, unequal length manifolds!) Even though the Evo has all the use control wizardry, the Impreza feels more raw and rewarding when the driver gets it right.
i chose the subaru because its just my personal taste.I like the choice over the conventional inline 4 with the boxster style engine. Also the look of that blue and gold on that car regardless what year is part of it to. i like the evo with the bullet proff 4 g63 but it never did for me what the STI did for me.
Ever since Gran Turismo 3, I've been an Evo fan. I'm on a rally team that races a Subaru, but they still except me with my Evo ways.
No Toyota Celica GT4? :Okay:Anyways, as much as I love Evos, from my young years I've been a really big Subbie fan, you gotta love that unmistakable boxer sound and it's rally legacy. Sooo, my vote goes for, and this is really hard to choose from, the Impreza.
i like both about the same..however i wouldn't waste money on any of the ones pictured on this poll, dont like the newest gen of either of them.
voted lan-evo because they look cooler with voltex wings.
My biggest issue with the evo is that they do not offer a midlevel option. I own a 2012 subaru wrx.. I may have chosen the lancer model if they offered a comparable version. I'm sorry but I simply refuse to spend and extra 10k over the cost of a WRX for a set of brembos, a diff control I will never use( because I rarely track my car), and 40hp (which is great and all but again, not worth 10g's).
wrx for me , because ive always wanted a hoon car
I love the evo, but if I had to own one and live with it (and work on it) I'd go for the sti any day of the week.
I would have an old wrx over an old evo. But, I would have a new evo over a new sti.
btw I owned a wrx for about 10 years
@zedvw2002 they have the ralliart which is pretty comparable
both need an interior update
Impreza because I have a 2013 WRX hatchback.
Unfortunaly after reading a few of the comments looks like darwin was right, survival of the fittest. The apparent interest of of the majority here will see the EVO go extinct. Maybe its too hardcore for some, maybe just right for others (me). Itll be a sad day if the EVO gets killed off brings us just that much closer to autonomous cars. DONT BUY AUTONOMOUS, EVOFOREVER........ but yea they do both need interior updates (coming from EVO owner).
this is essentially going to work out to "which car have you owned or driven?" and the subaru is going to win. there's more of them, there's more models that people have driven, and they are cheaper.
evo's look better though =)
I desperately need to experience an EVO first hand, but I am fortunate enough to have recently purchased an '02 Bug-eye WRX. The only reason why I chose Impreza here is because of how intoxicating I find the exhaust of the boxer-4 with an aftermarket exhaust. It is so unique, it just give the Impreza (an STI variant, to be fair) the edge over the more "normal" inline-4 exhaust of the EVO. Cosmetically, they both win for the same reasons; it would be unfair to judge either one on handling merits, and I only have Subaru experience.
Depends really. I would rather live with an STi for a street car as it seems to have better around town torque, and would much rather fix/work on an STi over an evo. The boxer shows some passion from subaru of making something a bit out of the ordinary work, and be competitive. And the sound of the boxer.....
But the Evo, the handling is excellent, the steering feels great. The awd system is the Evo X is revolutionary, especially when compared to the awd system in the STi, the DCCD is cool and all, but its nothing compared to the system Mitsubishi uses. The dual clutch trans in the Evo X MR is astounding, the feel of driving it is like nothing else I have driven before, the feel of it banging shifts is amazing. The Evo engines are proven to be very strong. The styling of the Evo X, imo, is excellent too.
Honestly, I can't vote, because I feel its a draw. The best choice, would be to have both cars.
As the owner of a stunning example of the last GOOD year of the STi, 2006, I can't help but vote for the Impreza. This even despite both platforms having become watered down as they've gained more features that drive them further away from the true drivers' car identity for which they both became famous. As an aside, SOA should probably bring back Aspen White.
My friend owns an STi, and I fell in love the first time I heard it growl down my street.
I have to vote Evo. I've driven WRX and STI but owned EVO1 and EVO4. The STI felt amazing like an road sized gocart. But then so do the Evo's. My Evo1 felt perfectly raw, light, and ready to go like snot on demand. The Evo4 begs to be driven hard and the handling changes from the 1-2-3's are great. My next Evo's would be 6.5TME and then an Evo9(only JDM's). The new ones look great and are probably great to drive but I think they've lost the original EVO soul without the 4g63. for looks I like think the 4-5-6 is best. I personally say the subies have always looked boring compared to EVO.
I would have to agree. I'm lucky to have an EVO 3 engine (Yes, a really real swapped evo3 in place of the American 4g63) in my 1.5G GSX eclipse I still keep for rallies and with that lighter body (2900lbs), nothing I've driven from Subaru compares to that raw wallop of power all the way to redline. Plus I can get to 500hp/11sec 1/4mi or better on a stock bottom end/ trans. Much as I love scoobies they could never, ever do that and last long.
In my years as an Audi/VW/Volvo "Sales Consultant" our dealer family also had a Subaru branch and the new W's/ S's have great balance aside from the electronic gizzmos. I've been lucky enough to drive every year of WRX and a couple Sti's, and the way they set up their torque to hit from factory is freaking perfect...but it kinda runs out too fast and it requires a lot of money and finnicky tuning to make more (power) and to make the engine/ trans support it.
"It's like a go kart for the road" has to be one of the most overused statements in the automotive world. Neither of these cars even comes close to a "road sized go kart."
My vote goes to the STI, after driving EVOs and STis in auto-x the STis in equivalent classes (excluding unlimited etc) were always faster and better cars to drive.
With all due respect Paizuri, if you're building any Japanese 4 cylinder engine to 500 + bhp you would be a fool not to strengthen the internals. Good luck on that stock bottom end ace...let me know how that works out for you.
Never unamused by the masses. Damn...
I would have to agree. I'm lucky to have an EVO 3 engine (Yes, a really real swapped evo3 in place of the American 4g63) in my 1.5G GSX eclipse I still keep for rallies and with that lighter body (2900lbs), nothing I've driven from Subaru compares to that raw wallop of power all the way to redline.
In my years as an Audi/VW/Volvo "Sales Consultant" our dealer family also had a Subaru branch and the new W's/ S's have great balance aside from the electronic gizzmos. I've been lucky enough to drive every year of WRX and a couple Sti's, and the way they set up their torque to hit from factory is freaking perfect...but it kinda runs out too fast and it requires a lot of money and finnicky tuning to make more (power) and to make the engine/ trans support it.
@Paizuri_4g63 And what engine doesn't require a lot of money / finnicky tuning to make more power and make the engine / transmission support it. Any time you are talking about modding an engine you are talking about the single most expensive piece of a cars hardware. Want an SR20 to produce a reliable 500hp...spend money. Want an LS6 to produce a reliable 500-600hp youre going to spend money. Hell...you want a 2 stroke racing kart to produce more power than it does from the factory...guess what? You're spending money.
Where does this idea of not spending money and making a stock engine produce more power come from? Whos teaching these youths this?
I love both the Impreza and the Evo, but I loved Evo's even before I was into cars whatsoever. So that's where my vote goes. I haven't drove either though..../:
Old DSMer's...practically all of us are cheap asses. Usually it gets us in trouble and you're right every bit needs to be reinforced or it will/ has broken sooner or later. All I'm saying is the 4G63 was a lot cheaper and easier to tune and could last quite a bit longer...with a better warranty
@Paizuri_4g63 Oh no doubt on that. The 4G63 was always a great engine except for that crank walk they had (it was certain models of the 4G63 that had crank walk right?). Thats why I've always liked LS motors. You can build decent power without breaking the bank.
In general though engines are not cheap to make solid power on, thats all I was trying to say. How many tuners in Japan broke records with the 4G63 albeit in a heavily modified state. Didn't the CT230 HKS EVO break the Tsukuba lap record a few times under that power plant.
Old DSMer's...practically all of us are cheap asses. Usually it gets us in trouble and you're right every bit needs to be reinforced or it will/ has broken sooner or later. All I'm saying is the 4G63 was a lot cheaper and easier to tune and could last quite a bit longer...with a better warranty.
To that end mine is bored .20 over with a mild 3 angle valve job, ARP hardware with a garret 47cm ball bearing compressor @ 20psi with methanol I paaaaid...oh abouts $1k for. Yes the CT230 was great machine...BOZZ speed also had a crazy time attack EVO 6 that would only last long enough for a few laps until it blew up....wheels/ tires slightly narrower in the back. The 2G's had crank walk problems and that was for an unfortunate percentage of 2G owners.
I love both of these cars, but where I'm from maybe 1 of the 5 people I know who own an Sti is actually knowledgable about the car and loves the machine. The other four had their daddy buy them one because that was the car they saw on tv and what everyone knows as to be "a sweet tuner car." thats why I voted Evo. And I'm a huge believer in the 4g63.
EVO = Better suspension design (at least in the rear). Better engine design (easily one of the best 4-cylinder motors ever made). Popular with engine builders, AWD drag racers, "time attackers", etc.
WRX = Crappy suspension design (MacPherson struts all around). Better engine layout (closer to the center of gravity) and sound (all that's missing is an anti-lag system). Popular with rally fanboys.
@Paizuri_4g63 2,900 pounds aren't exactly light.
@louisFCO "...it would be unfair to judge either one on handling merits..."
Yet power is nothing without control.
@dbpc @zedvw2002 Aren't Ralliart version of Lancers (not Lancer Evos) FWDs?
@RdS2 EVO vs WRX maybe?
I'll take an older base FWD Lancer over a base FWD Impreza, and newer vice versa.
Overused statement, probably, but I remember thinking that exactly. The STI had just been released in Canada and It was the first time I had driven something that tight and responsive. Of course they don't handle like a formula car but maybe it's the best way for the average person to compare it to the average car.
Definitely a personal choice. TopGear seemed to favor the Evos in most comparisons. find the "Best Motoring Impreza vs Lancer" video for a great shootout.
EVO = for the TME and Zero Fighter/Extreme
Impreza = for the 22B
but still, can't we have both?
@MattClarke gay
TO FUCK, THE BEST IS THE EVO. WHAT IT DID IS THE SUBARU TO COPY MITSUBISI
Where's the ST205 Celica option?
@angenzo right??hopefully polls like this will make them think otherwise, and to seriously reconsider to attract the "driving enthusiasts" attention. like the new toyobaru86 has *hint hint*
Why not both? But if I had to choose, it would depend on the generation..
olny the pre Evo X and Hatchback Imprezas i,d vote for both of them...
and doesnt have any iconic cars to me 
the new ones just looks ugly
Both are awesome, I have a MY07 WRX currently but I'd have an Evo too!!!
Impreza because, well, I have one! I don't mind driving an Evo though.
@apex_DNA @dbpc @zedvw2002 no the ralliart lancers are awd turbo with a detuned motor/suspension/ turbo. Only offered with a twin clutch transmission.
4B11 4lyf
@danamulyasalam naon eta dan ? Foto / video ?
@apex_DNA @Paizuri_4g63 No it is not...but thats the stock weight with full interior, sound deadening, sans CF hood which takes away about 45lbs. 2900lbs is a heck of alot lighter than anything on the market today thats for sure. Certainly lighter than a WRX or EVO.
I like both, but if I had to choose, it would be Subaru all the way. My first 'favourite' car when I was a kid was a rally-spec bugeye, because I had an RC version that I got for Christmas one year. I voted for Subaru based on the earlier models, not the one pictured. Anything post-hawkeye is, in my eyes, not a real Impreza. They ruined it's looks with the hatchback, and the new ones just don't do it for me at all.
My opinion is a little skewed because I sell Subarus, most of my friends have Imprezas, and I plan to get a BRZ but I will say this: The Evo is a sick car. It's a damn shame Mitsubishi isn't going to make them anymore. Mitsu is basically off the map for me now. WRX forever!!!
Definitely agree with you. Think about it; when has anyone even seen a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Advertisement?
However, Mitsubishi DOES offer a WRX competitor. The Lancer Ralliart. Unfortunately, lots of people ignore because they think its just a Lancer with Ralliart goodies.
@Paizuri_4g63 Fair enough.
Have to pick the EVO out of the two choices, but I am more than proud to OWN a third choice.... The Mazda 323 GTX
@Jordan_Burgess Subaru partnered with Porsche, and Mitsubishi continued the "evolution" to create the best iteration of both cars to date - Version 7 Impreza and Lancer Evolution 7. Iterations that followed were "ruined" when both companies began "cutting corners".
@Kuuuuurt Do the come with Evo's "wide-body"?
@apex_DNA @Jordan_Burgess lol pretty sure Subaru never partnered with Porsche.
The better you driver the more you will like the EVO over the STi.
Impreza all day, fear no evo!
@dbpc @Jordan_Burgess They did, on a number of occasions. Somebody who's more literate on all things Subaru can correct me on this, but didn't Porsche helped design Blitzen edition Legacy, Type Euro Impreza wagon, and version 7 aka "bug-eye" Impreza?
@apex_DNA @dbpc @Jordan_Burgess No
I bashed on my 2001 wrx for over 10 years, and only had 1 problem - radiator clogged up.
still runs like new.
An evo would've been faster, but it would've been dead 5 years ago.
@apex_DNA @dbpc @Jordan_Burgess you are right on both the Blitzen and the Type Euro(Bug Eye). The Blitzen had Porsche designed body kit, wheels and wheels plus a Tiptronic sequential gearbox. The Type Euro(Bug Eye) was a Porsche designed body style for the impreza.
@itsFLAGSHIP Got it!
Im a big fan of 2 door cars. I like what the impreza and lancer do but for me i wish they were less sedan and more sports car.
I wish Mitsubishi had a modern version of the 1g DSM with the Evo X driveline. Or even better a longatudinal 4b11 with a conventional transmission and truck style transfercase (think sierra cosworth or skyline) that could more easily upgraded to handle higher power. I can apreciate the STi but the engine has some compromises im not a fan of(how about those exhaust ports and bearings?) and its driveline is rather expensive to upgrade from what i can tell. The boxer style engine makes packaging more difficult so there is less freedom to move things around although it does have some unique possibilities.
How about a 2012 sti powered 22rs!?
@Grant B For you there is the Toyota Celica GT-Four. People forget how good the all-trac was in WRC. It makes me wonder why japanese rally is attributed by only lancer and impreza...
I've spent considerable time with both over the last 12 years. For track use (ie actual track days) - an Evo, and it would need to be a 9 MR. For day to day duties, the Subaru wins hands down. The 08-12 cars have a far nicer interior than any previous gen car, much better materials, much better controls, vastly better seats. But have a definate and intentional "girth" to them, sort of similar feeling to a modern Audi. I've yet to drive a 2013 WRX or STi to compare.
The Evo X has a terrific and very tunable engine for a modern car. I just don't like it's sneaker-esque looks.
True enough, though you should go drive a 125cc TaG kart before you use the kart analogy again. When I got mine, I was amazed at how fast karts are. There really are no cars in the world (with the exception of a formula car) that even come close. I've been in Carrera GTs, 1200lb cars that made 300whp on slicks and there really isn't anything I've been in to date that corners like my 125 TaG.
Top Gear did prefer the Evos most of the time, but from what I saw on the track STis were normally faster in relatively stock classes or classes that allowed few modifications. Once you get up to the unlimited class stuff it doesn't matter so much the platform as it does the money you can spend, the skill of the tuners / drivers etc.
For me stock for stock I would take an STi over an EVO. Modified...it would depend on how each was tuned, tough call.
My nickname says it all
Evo 5, 6 and 6.5 has been the best Evo ever made. Period!!!
SUBARU WRC.........*** 3 Time world champion
Mitsubishi WRC....... * 1 LOL
GAME OVER !
@Corbin @dbpc @Jordan_Burgess What about bug-eye?
@Nico Leone Hey Nico, as I am fan of Subaru, please do check how many times, Tommy Makinnen won WRC champion title
@injdmwetrust ??
Subaru constructor 1995, 1996, 1997 = 3 ?
Mitsubishi constructor 1998 = 1 ?
@Nico Leone @injdmwetrust
They banned electronic differentials and neutered the Mitsubishis.
The Subarus were already based upon mechanical diffs and had no problems
Evo 5-9 for dedicated track/autoX duties
Sti for mix of that and everything else
Which is why I have a '12 Sti.
Wow.... So many fan boys getting their panties in a knot! This sort on petty in fighting is why people still look down on Japanese cars and their owners
Both are great cars, both do something better than the other.
Subaru makes the better daily car but the Evo makes the better track car
@Nico Leone game over? Citroen has won more than all of them combined....so you would rather drive a Citroen?
@TougeSpirit @Nico Leone @injdmwetrust that is, well, incorrect. The Impreza WRX most certainly had active diffs. maybe even from the first year of WRC spec (98 or 99, I forget). Active diffs were present until 2006, when the FIA banned them for all teams
opinions are cool, facts are cool..at least have the 2 intersect at some point though
@injdmwetrust @Nico Leone its a good point...any championship won, be it driver or constructor, is the result of both of those components, and the team effort in general, coming together in harmony. You can't win a drivers championship with an uncompetitive car, and a slow/inconsistent team cannot win constructors championships. But Loeb is still the king of WRC as far as the sheer #'s won. Sadly though, WRC pales in comparison to what it was in the late 90's and early 2000's
Lancia has 10 so do i say FORZA LANCIA ? ********** but maybe i say any way lol, grande campione del WRC! FORZA LANCIA per tutti la vittoria nel WRC
As an owner of both, I can say that you can't go wrong with either. Top Gear once stated that the Evo is more of a fighter jet and the Impreza is a pub brawler. I concur. I feel that the Evo is more refined in the handling department which is why I chose it to be the track day toy. As a daily driver, the Impreza offers more tidings of comfort and joy (comfort and joy) than the Evo does. Long story long, I set my Evo (2005 8) up for track abuse, and it takes the punishment. The Impreza (2012 5 door hatch) can still deliver reliable performance. As a side note, I do have to say that Evo owners are more obnoxious than the WRX crowd, but I suppose that's also due to the rarity of the Evo in my area. As a minority to the extreme, infighting and brand bitching (HKS vs. AMS vs. blah, blah, blah.) is a serious hassle for noobish folks.
Fan boys/girls will always get worked up in comparison threads. Doesn't matter if you drive Japanese, American or European.
Try putting up a poll of a Mopar vs. GM vs. Ford. It'll be just as messy.
Bro you can run an impreza upside down and it would still run
lol
I honestly can't decide between he two.
why should we decide? :'(
@Keats Couldn't have said it better myself.
Evo has it in the looks dept. hands down.
STY??? EVO4LIFE <3
i honestly can't decide between the two. But... at least.. I prefer the evo because I drive it and it is a fantastic car in all the ways, especially aesthetically. However The Subaru is a very good car.
@Nico Leone makinen won 4 driver's titles with the evo 3, 4, 5, 6. makinen didn't win any driver's title when he switched to a subie.
but again, as cornerbalance mentioned, the championship is a combined effort. you could win a driver's championship but not constructor's, or vice-versa.
that was until they discovered the ingenious turbo restrictor bypass on the celica...
How about the Lancia Delta Integrale EVO 2 option?
I'm a little biased
Both mechanically sound and good cars, its jut the scoobies are BUTT UGLY. Evos win.
celica gtfour ftw !
Subaru have lost their way with the Impreza styling. It's gotten progressively worse since it's launch. It's only now looking half decent again.
@Supra So that's why they went with the Boxer engine, Subaru owners are prone to trying to drive them upside down
love IMPREZA !!!
I decided when I bought a WRX. Mitsubishi never embraced the wagonesque body style with the Evo like Subaru did with the WRX prior to 2007.
I decided when I bought a WRX. Mitsubishi never embraced the wagonesque body style with the Evo like Subaru did with the WRX prior to 2007.
@Keats
I am in the same boat as you having both in the driveway and totally agree with your decisions. The WRX makes a great comfortable daily however my Evo8MR is the weapon of choice to take to the track as it handles better, goes quicker and most importantly less prone to break!
@Keats
I am in the same boat as you having both in the driveway and totally agree with your decisions. The WRX makes a great comfortable daily however my Evo8MR is the weapon of choice to take to the track as it handles better, goes quicker and most importantly less prone to break!
A day at the track is really all it takes, at least out here in California. Evo's always outnumber Impreza's and most of the time there isn't even an Impreza present. Or maybe it speaks more about the owners...
A day at the track is really all it takes, at least out here in California. Evo's always outnumber Impreza's and most of the time there isn't even an Impreza present. Or maybe it speaks more about the owners...
Depends on the year/model of make... with older models I'd go with the Impreza, the newer ones, I'd get the Evo (Evo VI, Evo VIII and IX)...
Depends on the year/model of make... with older models I'd go with the Impreza, the newer ones, I'd get the Evo (Evo VI, Evo VIII and IX)...
Evo is the sports Lancer, WRX is the sports Impreza. If it' the impreza vs the EVO and not the WRX vs the EVO then it's a easy decision.
Evo is the sports Lancer, WRX is the sports Impreza. If it' the impreza vs the EVO and not the WRX vs the EVO then it's a easy decision.
@AndreVanBike everyone gets what they meant, that it's the STi vs. Evo
@AndreVanBike everyone gets what they meant, that it's the STi vs. Evo
I own a 2004 Impreza but I voted Evo as its a car I've always dreamed about owning.
I own a 2004 Impreza but I voted Evo as its a car I've always dreamed about owning.
I dig both of them too, but at the end I opted for Evo X MR and I can't complain
I dig both of them too, but at the end I opted for Evo X MR and I can't complain
When I was first buying a car (over 18 years ago now), I couldn't afford the STI, but I could afford the Impreza Brighton Wagon... base model 2 liter, non-turbo. It was a good car over all, but I drive long distances (1000km every two weeks), and after a while, it just wasn't very comfortable. since then I dabbled in other cars (Honda Civic EF, Volkswagen Golf Diesel, Hyundai Tuscon) before I went back to what I should have bought in the first place... the Mitsubishi... I bought it three years ago, have 133K on the odometer, but the car still surprises me on how comfortable and fun it is to drive.
I might not be the typical driver of the Evo, but it's proven itself as a real endurance machine!
When I was first buying a car (over 18 years ago now), I couldn't afford the STI, but I could afford the Impreza Brighton Wagon... base model 2 liter, non-turbo. It was a good car over all, but I drive long distances (1000km every two weeks), and after a while, it just wasn't very comfortable. since then I dabbled in other cars (Honda Civic EF, Volkswagen Golf Diesel, Hyundai Tuscon) before I went back to what I should have bought in the first place... the Mitsubishi... I bought it three years ago, have 133K on the odometer, but the car still surprises me on how comfortable and fun it is to drive.
I might not be the typical driver of the Evo, but it's proven itself as a real endurance machine!
When I was first buying a car (over 18 years ago now), I couldn't afford the STI, but I could afford the Impreza Brighton Wagon... base model 2 liter, non-turbo. It was a good car over all, but I drive long distances (1000km every two weeks), and after a while, it just wasn't very comfortable. since then I dabbled in other cars (Honda Civic EF, Volkswagen Golf Diesel, Hyundai Tuscon) before I went back to what I should have bought in the first place... the Mitsubishi... I bought it three years ago, have 133K on the odometer, but the car still surprises me on how comfortable and fun it is to drive.
I might not be the typical driver of the Evo, but it's proven itself as a real endurance machine!
true. the only evo to have a wagon style was the JDM evo IX.
true. the only evo to have a wagon style was the JDM evo IX.
true. the only evo to have a wagon style was the JDM evo IX.
true. the only evo to have a wagon style was the JDM evo IX.
true. the only evo to have a wagon style was the JDM evo IX.
@AndreVanBike
smart ass
@AndreVanBike
smart ass
@AndreVanBike
smart ass
@AndreVanBike
smart ass
Both cars suck equally.
Both cars suck equally.
Both cars suck equally.
Both cars suck equally.
I honestly enjoy every second behind the wheel of my Evo X GSR. I can appreciate what Subaru has to offer too, but for me...there's no point in comparing the two.
I honestly enjoy every second behind the wheel of my Evo X GSR. I can appreciate what Subaru has to offer too, but for me...there's no point in comparing the two.
I honestly enjoy every second behind the wheel of my Evo X GSR. I can appreciate what Subaru has to offer too, but for me...there's no point in comparing the two.
I honestly enjoy every second behind the wheel of my Evo X GSR. I can appreciate what Subaru has to offer too, but for me...there's no point in comparing the two.
why compare? both cars are awsome in their own way
why compare? both cars are awsome in their own way
why compare? both cars are awsome in their own way
EVO. It's a hard choice... Love both of them. Eventually I think the EVOs are 51-49% on precision - power, STIs 49-51%. And I like precision.
EVO. It's a hard choice... Love both of them. Eventually I think the EVOs are 51-49% on precision - power, STIs 49-51%. And I like precision.
EVO. It's a hard choice... Love both of them. Eventually I think the EVOs are 51-49% on precision - power, STIs 49-51%. And I like precision.
4g63 = Scrap Metal EJ25 = GOLD
@Northern Lites Customs I think you've got it backwards...lol
@Northern Lites Customs Countless stock ring land failures of EJ motors are hard to argue for. Sorry.
I own an 05 WRX as my daily and it is one of the most fun cars to drive. Just bolt ons and a stock turbo tune. Let's be honest, if you want to buy one or the other to go fast, buy an EVO. The 4g63 makes power and responds to mods like an LSx motor. IMO, for looks, quality and fun factor, buy a Subaru. I always tell people DON'T buy an STi if you want a fast street and/or highway car. As long as sheer speed and power figures aren't your main priority, definitely buy a Scoob. Just be prepared to spend A LOOOOT more money to build a Subaru to be fast and make big numbers.
EVO = good car + plus CPU's = Great Car
Impreza/STi = Great car done mechanically
also GC8 is perfect rally / street car