Let’s Stop Calling Them Missiles

The words ‘matsuri’, ‘missile’ and ‘touge‘ have become a part of any drift fan’s common vernacular, for better or for worse. So, when I had the opportunity to spend a few weeks high up in the mountains of Fukushima shredding tyres at Ebisu Circuit, I couldn’t pass up the chance to sit down with Power Vehicles’ Andrew Gray – a man who, whether he likes it or not, has undeniably played a role in popularising these terms in the west.

Over a few Kirins, Andy talks bad reputations, the state of Japanese professional drifting and the superiority of Toyotas over Nissans.

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Peter Kelly: For those that don’t know, tell us your origin story; how did this crazy life living and working at one of the world’s true motorsport meccas come about?

Andy Gray: Well… I started out buying cars in Japan and shipping them back home to the UK to sell; this was back when the industry was huge in the early 2000s. We did alright with that, but it soon grew too big. That’s when I decided to go straight to the source and move to Japan. That way I could sell cars to every market, not just the UK. So I shut the shop in Scotland, convinced [my wife] Emily, who I’d only known for a few months at that point, to come with me, and that’s when we created Power Vehicles the export company.

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PK: But at that point, it was just your regular performance car export company based in Tokyo, right? What made you change?

AG: It was the global financial crisis. We went from selling 40 cars a month, to none overnight. That killed us. Soon after, we came up to Ebisu for the first time for a look and did one lap in the RX-7 we had at the time, and that was it. Heading back the next day, we just said: “we should move here”. We were living in industrial Saitama at the time and had big a yard right next to Kazama Auto, but the quieter lifestyle outside of Tokyo was just too appealing. We’d heard that there was some workshop space up for rent at Ebisu for cheap, so we took it, and moved up, quartering our costs overnight. And that was that.

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PK: So how did Power Vehicles go from car export company to the foreigner-friendly, almost tourism-industry outfit it is today?

AG: At the time, the circuit couldn’t really handle foreigners; they didn’t know how and had had some bad experiences in the past. So we said, right, we’ll handle the foreigners. From that point we started picking up and storing cars for overseas customers to use when they’re here, and it just built up from there. Gaijins are now a big part of Ebisu Circuit’s clientele.

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PK: You’ve spent a long time building up Ebisu as a tourist destination for petrol-heads of sorts, with Matsuri and Drift Heaven week. How did that happen?

AG: Matsuri has always existed, it was just us that made it accessible for foreigners, and it’s now turned into this party atmosphere. We extended Matsuri into a week, calling it Drift Heaven week, simply because it’s just not worth overseas guys coming for two days of drifting.

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PK: Matsuri seems super hectic; is it for everyone, or just for the more experienced drivers out there?

AG: Matsuri is an intense experience, but even if you’re a beginner, you can still turn up and have a good time and learn a whole lot. To be honest though, a lot of guys will come to their first Matsuri, then realise it’s a bit hectic for them, so they’ll come back next time with a group of mates at a non-Matsuri time and have a blast, with the place all to themselves and the few locals that show up. A lot of people don’t realise that Ebisu is open seven days a week; you can come here to drift any time.

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PK: Generally, people are buying cars from Power Vehicles, which they then use for Matsuri events, or really, just any time they’re at Ebisu – how does that work?

AG: We basically find a good drift car for sale, check it out, buy it and then get it trucked up here to Ebisu. From there we spend some time working on it to make sure it’s all ready to go, then I put it out to our mailing list and Facebook group, where someone will buy it.
I only really buy pre-built drift cars, but these days we’re going away for the really cheap and rough stuff – cars that need too much work. I look for cars that have been looked after, and have got good parts already fitted – a nice LSD, good clutch, a decent seat, that sort of thing.
Although they’re always drift cars, they’re never ‘drift ready'; they’re always at least one of two days of solid work away. It’s the stuff you can’t tell at auction: a crunchy gearbox, broken hubs, slipping clutches. As soon as I take it out on the track, I find all those things and have to fix them, because it’s for guys that are coming to the track and expecting to be handed a turn-key machine.

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PK: Is that why you do a test video for every car? I assumed it was a cheeky way to get in some track time during work hours.

AG: Yeah, some people think I must just be doing those videos for fun, but that way there’s no disputing that I’ve driven these cars and that they drift well – I’m not handing over something that I wouldn’t drive myself. Sometimes I’ll be doing seven trips from the workshop to the track and back to make sure we’ve got it right. A lot of work goes on behind the scenes before anyone sees those videos.

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PK: So, let’s say I’m a customer, and I buy a car, have a bunch of fun with it for a week and then I don’t want to keep it for next time I come back, nor do I want to ship it back home. Will you always buy a car back regardless?

AG: Yes I will, but of course if you bring me a steaming pile of crap that’s completely destroyed, you’re not going to be getting top dollar. We do get guys bringing cars back after a week of drifting and they’re unmarked, and we also get people bringing back completely destroyed cars trying to say they’ve improved it by fixing this or that, which can be pretty amusing.

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PK: Which brings us to the issue of ‘missiles’. Do you think the word has been bastardised by western drift culture? Do you wish the term would die?

AG: That word has been used in Japan for years, but yes, to be honest I do. ‘Missile’ has connotations of something that is just throw away, something that you want to destroy, and that’s not what these cars should be about. I think you should call it your ‘practice car’, because that is what it is. Emily and I have only had a handful of practice cars over the years – it’s not like we chew through cars on a regular basis – and just because it’s a missile, doesn’t mean it should be wrecked. And even if you do have a big accident – which happened to me not too long ago and is just something that happens in high speed drifting – the parts live on. I transplanted all of that gear into a new shell. I would never see it as something to just smash up and throw away.

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PK: Okay, but you can’t deny that some of your customers obviously do think that way, and, if we’re to be honest, it’s true that some Japanese people think of Power Vehicles as the ‘drift car destroyers’. Is that justified?

AG: I can see where people get that idea from, and you do see some people coming here and just smashing the shit out of cars. But to be honest, that’s only a very small amount of people giving us that name. I have plenty of customers who have done ridiculous amounts of Matsuris in the same car – that equates to thousands of laps. If you come here and buy a nice car, then proceed to annihilate it in the space of a week on purpose, that’s not really going to work for us. It gives all of us a bad name. It’s also worth pointing out that many of the cars we buy have been sitting abandoned for a couple of years rotting away – you can tell just by the smell of the fuel – so while they might be in for a hard life at Ebisu, they’re brought back to a good standard first, and at least they’re living.

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PK: Is there a big disparity between what foreigners ideas on drifting at Ebisu is all about, and the reality?

AG: Not everyone, but sure, there’s a few misconceptions we see a lot. Firstly, cars have become more expensive [in Japan] over the last few years. So, guys with a smaller budget that want to come to Matsuri tend to buy a car off a mate, or someone off Facebook as opposed to buying it off us. They’re told it’s perfect and ready to rock as soon as they arrive here, and often, it doesn’t work out like that in the slightest.
They end up spending most of their week working on it. Some guys will even come here and they’ll have barely done one lap in a week and to me that’s just heartbreaking and completely pointless. You’d be better off staying at home. Two or three grand used to get you a basic drift missile, but it just doesn’t any more, so people with that kind of budget are not going to have a fun time with what they end up buying. All the stuff you expect to go wrong with a drift car – broken studs, fried clutches, melted wiring, bent arms and all the rest – will probably be wrong. It might be cheap to start with, but it’s going to require more money and time to get right; time you could be drifting.
This is why we now only deal with cars that we know are good; we don’t want people to come and have a bad time, that’s the opposite of what we want. You should be coming to Ebisu and literally having the best time of your life. So, my advice would be to hold off for another year, get a bit more cash together and do it properly by buying something good that’s been properly prepared.

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PK: Sure, someone might buy the right car and it’s mechanically solid, but they still might throw it off the side of the touge course and bend an arm or smash an intercooler – what happens then?

AG: It happens, of course. We always buy up a whole lot of common parts before any drift week, so generally, we’ve got the parts you need to get you back on track. But the reality is, for the most part, my staff and I are going to be too busy in the workshop during that week to fit the part for you, so you and your mates will be doing it yourself in the pits. Drifters tend to be pretty hands-on though, so for the most part, people would want to do it themselves anyway and save the money.
People often tell me they want a car that won’t break. My first answer is usually ‘buy a Toyota’, but at the end of the day, this is drifting. Show me the car that’s invincible and I’ll buy them all.

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PK: So you’re saying that there’s a safer bet when buying a drift car?

AG: One hundred per cent. If it were up to me, everyone would be driving Toyotas. The Nissans are good, but Toyotas are not just a little bit better, they’re massively stronger cars. They’re more expensive to buy and they keep their value a bit better, but we’ll never see a JZX with a snapped axle, or a broken driveshaft, the gearboxes are massively strong and the power steering is generally great. The JZX90s in particular are tough old machines and just take the abuse constantly for years. It’s funny, a lot of guys come here as Nissan guys, but if you spend any amount of time at Ebisu, before long, you’ll want a JZX.

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PK: Let’s say the worst does happen and a car gets completely destroyed, what happens then?

AG: Well, back in the day I would have taken a look and figured out how I was going to fix it up. But these days, that’s just not a viable use of our time. Because we have such a big demand for parts, I’ll pull that car apart, and it’ll live on by giving life to other cars that are still track worthy. Nothing is wasted or unnecessarily thrown away. But to be honest, it doesn’t happen to often. I’d rather people just look after their cars, of course.

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PK: At the end of the day though, that’s drifting, right? It’s going to happen sooner or later.

AG: You’re right. I accept that between the foreign and local drivers, there’s always going to be one or two rollovers per Matsuri. Ebisu can be an unforgiving place and that’s just part of drifting; but the smashing it up on purpose bit? There’s no need for that. These cars are invaluable tools and allow drivers to push their limits. So many guys come here and improve an unbelievable amount in a very short time, and are they are now back home winning comps due to all the seat time in their Ebisu practice cars.

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PK: Is this sustainable in the long term?

AG: I doubt it, but we’ve got a while yet. The cars that everyone wants – Cefiros, S13s and that sort of thing – are rare now and much more expensive than they used to be, and the same thing will happen to the JZXs soon enough. But for now, there’s still a whole lot of 180SXs, S14s and JZX100s around. 2002 is really the cut off for pretty much most cool cars in Japan; that’s when the S15, the R34, the JZXs ceased production. We’re not currently looking at anything past that, like the Z33 Fairladys for example.

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PK: Will you eventually?

AG: Probably, yes. The American guys seem to think the Zeds are pretty strong, but realistically, you have to do a lot to them to get them to the point of a near-stock JZX. There’s not much tuning potential unless you want to spend big money. I can jump in a bone-stock JZX90 for example – and I mean bone stock – and I can drift the entire touge course without touching the clutch.

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PK: Let’s talk competition drifting. Besides your Formula D driving, you’re a long-time D1GP competitor here in Japan. The energy of the series seems to be lacking a little lately, do you agree that it has changed?

AG: Yes, I think it’s really different these days. D1 now scores drivers using DriftBox technology. It’s not popular with the drivers – in the briefings they won’t even give you any clipping points – they just want you to drive to the DriftBox, but they won’t tell you what that means. So you just have to go out and try something, see if it works and gets you a good score, and go from there. For me, it’s almost become lazy from the judge’s point of view. And it hurts me to say that. I came up in D1, right from the bottom rank to the top, but I haven’t enjoyed myself this past season. Whereas for me doing Formula D series here in Japan, everything is clear and explained, just like the D1 Street Legal series still is. I really hope D1GP goes back to the old system.

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PK: And how does it compare to driving in US FD?

AG: It’s a very different style of competition, mostly in regards to the tracks. We don’t have banks here in Japan. Last season – my first in the US – I sometimes had to go to guys like Robbie Nishida and Daigo Saito and ask them how to drive in this type of environment, so it’s been a big learning experience. We got up to scratch pretty quickly last year and we’ll be even better next season in the Pro competition. We’re building a new chassis for this year’s US competitions using what we’ve learnt from the Pro 2 competition – it’s still a JZX100 though, of course.

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PK: And finally, does that mean you won’t compete in D1GP at all?

AG: I’ve kind of lost heart in it, but at the same time I’ve spent so long working up through the ranks to get into the Pro competition to then sit on the sidelines. That’ll drive me crazy. So for that reason more than anything, I’ll probably do a couple of rounds. Mostly though, I’m looking forward to the Formula D season in the States.

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PK: Thanks for taking the time out to sit down and shoot the sh*t.

You can catch Andy Gray and his team in action during this Summer’s Formula D season, kicking off in Long Beach on April 8th!

Peter Kelly
Editor-in-Chief
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Great interview. Good luck in FD this year Andy!

2

damn I want a chaser right now

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hpserban I love that brown Mark II that I posted in the photos above, that's what my JZX would look like if I had one.

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Speedhunters ToyotaPR Think you'll like this guy. ;)

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I do like Toyota a lot , like , a LOT ... but I never know they can be that good !
That makes me want to have a JZX !

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Andy Gray - Powervehicles

Twitch_6 Thanks man!

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Pete, in the fourth photo down is that a dirty Holden commy ute?

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HenriquePinheiro2

Great article!

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I think he likes Toyotas.

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Gary the cat Looks to be

11

Great read! I said many many times I never was into just smashing cash up for no reason and pretty much dislike the missile style with new drivers. Such bad habits.

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Pinku Style very true. Never understood the missile car smash em up mentality. Like Andy Gray - Powervehicles stated it is meant to be a practice vehicle and with it learn new skills and progress your driving style etc, not just demolition derby. We can do that at the county fair ;-)

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I can't stand the concept of a missle it shits me right off. People buying a car almost purposely with the intent of absolutely wrecking the thing then selling it for parts is so dam annoying. Where I'm from in Aus you could get clean r32/33 GTST and s13/180 for like 6k, now because everyone shreds them to death and then sells them as parts the price has sky rocketed and its becoming almost impossible to find anything clean with original panels. These classic 90's jdm chassi's aren't going to be around for ever so it's such a sin to see people end a good car then not bother fixing it cause it's better to profit off the sale of parts.. People like that are assholes imo. Sure if the car is already pretty much a right off then use it as a practice car and still treat it with respect, but if you got a nice car and get in a little fender bender don't just automatically go into missile mode and stuff the thing right up, fix it up and take care of it because they aren't replaceable.

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Great article , I can highly recommend Andy and Emily too , bought a jzx100 from them just over a year ago and love it!
i'll be spending a week in Japan the moment i can afford it!!!!

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Great interview, a really cool operation. Definitely living the drift life dream.

It is great to hear the subject of 'missiles' addressed. I have always hated the term, and the mindset of drifting participation that goes with it. I think it became a thing in the west around the late 00's, when a few videos were going around the net of japanese track days, where the drifters were purposely smashing silvias, chasers and skylines against walls, and if I remember right the aim was to make the rear end almost triangled. The videos were indeed wild viewing and a quick novelty, but most people mainly commented it was a bit of a disgrace to destroy perfectly good and desirable cars. Due to the economic depression those cars were apparently worthless at the time.

But there was an element of people into drifting that this really resonated with, and really took on the idea of this is what drifting is. Ever since we have had to witness, battered pieces of crap cars at all drift track days, the same ones year after year with no intention of fixing or improving the car aesthetically or mechanically, or becoming better at driving, because 'it's my missile, I want to wreck it'.
I am often ashamed when non drifter friends come to see drifting for the day and are wondering why there are destruction derby cars with no exhausts spinning out and sliding through the grass.

Andy is right to differentiate missiles from practice cars. we have all broken the bumpers off, and all had to learn to drift at some stage with basic cars, but anyone doing it properly will constantly fix and improve their car and their skill.
Hopefully it starts to die out.

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I will be first in line to grab a JZX100 when the 25 year import limit hits.  That is assuming there are any left.  They seem to be gaining popularity alarmingly quick with the drift crowd.

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Fantastic article and an awesome outfit. Thanks for sharing this interview

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I bought a JZX100 mk2 from powervehicles last year and did a few weekends including the fall matsuri.

Andy and Emily have a great operation going. Very easy to deal with and they truely just want to get you seat time.

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me and my wife went for spring matsuri 4 years ago as a 2nd honey moon. Andy and Emily helped us out with getting a car and honestly they are the greatest people to deal with!. it is still by far the best holiday we have ever had, car was faultless (and is still going till this day) and they were both extremely helpful . hopefully in the future we can go back!

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Gary the cat It is! Super weird thing to see in Japan - it's actually a prepared drift car too, on TE37s from memory, though I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure it's for sale too, which would be a hilarious buy,

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BigAl80030 Just about the same time the prices for them will double overnight!

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wow. i never knew that ppl had that view of missles. I always thought that when ppl talked about having a drift missles,it-was car that wasn't very attractive looking but ran strong...and the car could be a better test of your skill since u aren't really worried about how it looks outwardly. u know u could push the limits a little more. Not crashing them on purpose... anywas great article as always

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Peter_Kelly Probably the truth sadly.  Oh well, still have a few years to save up.  Haha

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Its on my to do list...Hopefully I can make it happen

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Andrew Gray is really living the life of a JDM petrolhead! Wishing him all the best for Formula Drift Pro competition!
By the way, is that the MCR R34?

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Really great article.
I think there is a bit of a naive misconception there is a seemingly infinite supply of these cars still available. But really they're getting rarer and more expensive. It's such a shame seeing them all smashed up and not looked after.
Enjoy drifting, but don't get too careless! :)

The Final Bout drift event seems to be helping changing the drift pig/missle mindset. Seems as if they encourage good looking cars and actually care if it's smashed up or not.

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i23sonny  Second that! Awesome article!

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jay8393 I believe it is, yes!

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BigAl80030 Peter_Kelly Buy one a year beforehand, store it at powervehicles and then import it when it turns 25 ;)

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Nice one Peter.  It does me a big anxiety to see these wonderful machines all smashed up sometimes - give or take the inevitable casualties of a drifting.  Cars like these will never be made again, and many of them are approaching or are in fact well over 20 years old now :(

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AnuradhaAbeysinghe

yes i allways belived toyota's are far more better built than a toyota

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skunkworkssr71 I'm not so sure the purpose and aim was to smash the rear quarters to triangulate them; the "missiles" were practice cars intended solely for practicing getting as close to the wall as possible.  You would often see flags or bottles taped up, sticking out the wall, or people holding them out just so, and in the event that the driver was successful in getting close, but not too close, they would hit the object but never the wall.  

I could be wrong, but that was the intent I took behind the idea of the missile cars in Japan.  To your point, the market for the cars made them incredibly cheap but most people were buying cars that were already at a point where they were considered "destroyed," by most. 

I do hope the idea of purposely destroying a car does die out.  There's never a purpose or reason for intentionally destroying these vehicles, especially considering, they're on limited supply!  Some day we won't be able to go back and impulse-buy a project car of our choice.  They'll be extinct :

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I did always like the term "practice cars"
Massive props to Andrew & his wife for doing what they do!

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Cool article.  I normally just come for the pics but I stayed for the read this time.
Also, with a house full of Toyota's (JZX100, JZA80 & JZS160) all I can say is I totally agree... Toyota > Nissan :P

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..... so when in hell did "drift missile" not mean "practice car"?

....... and when did "practice car" not mean, you'll probably smash it practicing?

....... and if I call it a "practice car", will it not be dented when I crash it?

....... just doesn't sound like it's not a problem with the terminology, it's a matter of not crashing it

...... far as I can see, a slightly smashed (warmed over repair) drift missile on Ebisu, is probably in better running condition, than some trashed 240 I see in Baltimore

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BoostSamurai Thanks for reading mate, appreciate it.

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Peter_Kelly BoostSamurai What can I say, I'm a JZ whore ;)

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I always love toyotas, avery model of it!! Also the nissan RPS13!!.It does break my heart to see one wrecked, and very annoyed see one destroyed in purpose. Cars during 1990s are the best ever!! But rather than see abandoned and rotted away. Making them as pratice cars is a great idea indeed
Hopefully One day I will come, experience and having fun in a KE70 or a JZX
Great article sir!!

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Wonderful piece! Im an s14 guy though not into drifting, but the window into car culture and the great questions and candid answers is 100% why this site is my #1 car site on the net!

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