Burning The Midnight Oil: The 86x Is Almost There

Yesterday was a very long day. After flying into Norway from Tokyo it was straight to Fredric’s house just outside Oslo for a rendezvous with the soon to be completed 86X. Fredric and his crew have been working literally non stop for the last two and a half weeks putting together this impressive 2JZ-powered 86, which will be unveiled at Gatebil Rudskogen.  After seeing all the weekly progress posts that Fredric has been posting up, I was really excited to see what this mean machine was looking like. Fredric, along with Mad Mike who had flown in earlier in the day, had taken the car to the sticker shop where the custom graphics would be applied.  As ever when it comes to projects of this nature delays followed…

…and it sounded like it would take a few hours of extra work to finish things up and get the car back at Fredric’s place. It was a good time to relax and have a chat with Thomas, one of Fredric’s friends who has been involved in the project since the beginning. I was surprised to hear that the 86 as well as the Supra had all been built in the garage-come-workshop under Fredric’s house, which is packed full of all the tools one would ever need to put a pro drift car together. Even around the house there is plenty to see, like random parts stored away as well as a few toys.

With jet lag setting in pretty hard my head was attempting to make sense of the unusual amount of light that was still out at what must have been 10 pm. Made for nice shots of the lake behind Fredric’s house!

Fast forward a couple of more hours and still no sign of Fredric and Mad Mike, who were still at the sticker place finishing up. By about midnight the rest of Fredric’s crew had assembled in the garage, ready to get to work as soon as the 86 would arrive. There was still lots to do like fitting the turbo, fabricating the intercooler piping, the front pipe and the screamer pipe, fit the seats, mount tires on wheels…needless to say it was going to be a very long night with little or no sleep to be had for all of these guys.

At around 1:30 am Fredric arrived, and the newly painted and stickered-up 86X was quickly unloaded from the trailer and slowly moved down…

…the driveway…

…and into the garage.

It had been a long wait but well worth it as the car was looking phenomenal with the new livery.

Miura-san of TRA Kyoto has been a true sport in supporting this project, sending Fredric the masters of the soon to be released 6666 Custom Rocket Bunny overfenders. As with all of TRA’s aero, which is designed in CAD and the molds CNC-machined to high standards, was a perfect fit and really gave an altogether more aggressive stance to the 86. At this point the car was still on the stock wheels, with the Federal tires getting mounted on the rims later on in the night.

I was impressed at how well these guys made the 2JZ, taken out of Fredric’s Supra, fit in the somewhat compact engine bay. At this point the engine was still missing most of the ancillaries on the turbo side as well as the intercooler…

…which Bjorn from SWR Performance was finishing up here. Bjorn originally built the 2JZ and cooling system in Fredric’s Supra and with the motor’s swap over to the 86X lots of fabrication was and still is, as we will see further down in the post, required to make everything fit.

Literally within one minute of the 86X being pushed into the garage everyone got to work, it was almost like I was back in Japan witnessing efficiency first hand. There is obviously a lot of passion and pride at stake in getting this project not only completed in time, but performing straight out of the box.

With the clock quickly approaching 2 am the place was buzzing with energy and plenty of noise; it’s a good thing Fredric’s closest neighbors are some way away but even so some complaints followed!

Attempting not to get in the way I took time to check over the car in more detail, from the various sponsor stickers that had been applied to the front glass…

…to all the big Speedhunters logos on the side of the car.

The car looks awesome from the rear with those rear Rocket Bunny overfenders, but obviously needs the proper wheels for full effect!

Mad Mike, after traveling close to 30 hours from New Zealand, had arrived earlier in the day and gone with Fredric to pick up the car from the painters and bring it to the shops where the stickers were applied. By 2 am he was looking understandably exhausted but nonetheless pumped to be out here in Norway. The MadBull is already at the track waiting to get unloaded from the container and do its thing around Rudskogen!

The hood was removed and put in a safe place…

…allowing better access to the engine bay so Bjorn could fit the recently rebuilt Comp Turbo CT3B on the cast iron S-Max exhaust manifold.

Also the two bucket seats from the Supra needed to get moved over into the 86. Above you can also see the massive lines that bring coolant to and from…

…the rear-mounted radiator, positioned in the trunk so as not to interfere with the intercooler’s airflow up front as well as to experiment with a bit of weight distribution.

This is the rendering that Fredric posted back before the build started and it’s cool to see that the 86X has ended up looking exactly as planned.

I crashed out at 3 am, leaving Fredric and the guys to get on with it. This morning after waking up I went down to the garage to see how things were progressing and found Bjorn still busy working away on his fabrications. The seats are in, the wheels shod with the Federals…

…and the turbo almost ready to be plumbed in place.

As I type this, the front pipe and screamer pipe are getting welded up downstairs and they hope to turn the engine on in the next hour or so. Then, later in the afternoon it’s on to Gatebil Rudskogen to begin setting up.

The next few days are going to be wild. Make sure you keep up to date with all our goings on!

86X Build posts on Speedhunters

-Dino Dalle Carbonare

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1

This makes me both happy and sad. It's nice to see the 86X taking shape :D Looking forward to seeing videos of it driving, cause I got sick and couldn't drive down to Gatebil myself :(

2

Why did they decide to use the 2JZ engine instead of a LS7 like so many pro drift cars are using these days?

3

I love the LS7. But have you not seen what Daigo's car is doing in the Formula Drift series? Have you not seen what Aasbo has done in the Supra, powered by this exact same engine?  The 2J may be the V8 killer as the current rules in FD stand. Or until someone puts more money into their V8s, which have been relatively cheaper than Daigo's setup.

4

Soooo sick! also the 2JZ was taken out of the supra he already had it, so its easier

5

2JZ is much lighter I guess compare it to LS7..

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2JZ is much lighter I guess compare it to LS7..

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2JZ is much lighter I guess compare it to LS7..

8

why no pictures of wheels on car!!!
 

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why no pictures of wheels on car!!!
 

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why no pictures of wheels on car!!!
 

11

not really, 2jz block is very stout (and heavy) and last time I shipped a head, they were ~60lbs with valves and buckets only. Cast manifold and turbo bumps the total also.
 
aluminum LS longblocks are very light for a v8 with 5.7-7.0L+ displacement, with only one cam, 2V heads and composite intake they do pretty well on weight...  not to mention 550-600hp is a walk in the park for a h/c ls3

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not really, 2jz block is very stout (and heavy) and last time I shipped a head, they were ~60lbs with valves and buckets only. Cast manifold and turbo bumps the total also.
 
aluminum LS longblocks are very light for a v8 with 5.7-7.0L+ displacement, with only one cam, 2V heads and composite intake they do pretty well on weight...  not to mention 550-600hp is a walk in the park for a h/c ls3

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not really, 2jz block is very stout (and heavy) and last time I shipped a head, they were ~60lbs with valves and buckets only. Cast manifold and turbo bumps the total also.
 
aluminum LS longblocks are very light for a v8 with 5.7-7.0L+ displacement, with only one cam, 2V heads and composite intake they do pretty well on weight...  not to mention 550-600hp is a walk in the park for a h/c ls3

14

even in a mad rush, somebody had time to eat some muffins in between welding, lol

15

even in a mad rush, somebody had time to eat some muffins in between welding, lol

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even in a mad rush, somebody had time to eat some muffins in between welding, lol

17

Looks insane

18

Looks insane

19

Looks insane

20

Great point, didnt even think about daigo, hes supposed to be getting over 1000 hp out his car so it isn't lacking power. I'm fairly new to this drifting scene what cars are the 1jz and 2jz engines out of ?

21

Great point, didnt even think about daigo, hes supposed to be getting over 1000 hp out his car so it isn't lacking power. I'm fairly new to this drifting scene what cars are the 1jz and 2jz engines out of ?

22

Great point, didnt even think about daigo, hes supposed to be getting over 1000 hp out his car so it isn't lacking power. I'm fairly new to this drifting scene what cars are the 1jz and 2jz engines out of ?

23

Because the car is sponsered by Toyota not GM.

24

Because the car is sponsered by Toyota not GM.

25

Because the car is sponsered by Toyota not GM.

26

They really should be using hard coolant lines...theres going to be a lot of heat soak in the cabin because of those steel braided lines. 

27

They really should be using hard coolant lines...theres going to be a lot of heat soak in the cabin because of those steel braided lines. 

28

They really should be using hard coolant lines...theres going to be a lot of heat soak in the cabin because of those steel braided lines. 

29

i see Audi coils...

30

i see Audi coils...

31

i see Audi coils...

32

stock turbo manifold? really? or is it just a placeholder...?

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stock turbo manifold? really? or is it just a placeholder...?

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stock turbo manifold? really? or is it just a placeholder...?

35

Why Audi coils?

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Why Audi coils?

37

Why Audi coils?

38

 @AlexLobanov exhaust manifold is aftermarket... intake is factory

39

 @AlexLobanov exhaust manifold is aftermarket... intake is factory

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 @AlexLobanov exhaust manifold is aftermarket... intake is factory

41

 @AaronVenable Oh I forgot stock manifold houses twin turbo... still, looks like a wimpy turbo manifold to me.

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 @AaronVenable Oh I forgot stock manifold houses twin turbo... still, looks like a wimpy turbo manifold to me.

43

 @AaronVenable Oh I forgot stock manifold houses twin turbo... still, looks like a wimpy turbo manifold to me.

44

VERY NICE great story. we want more

45

VERY NICE great story. we want more

46

VERY NICE great story. we want more

47

I was wondering how they are going to get it tuned in time, but I guess they will just be using the same ECU and maps from the Supra?

48

I was wondering how they are going to get it tuned in time, but I guess they will just be using the same ECU and maps from the Supra?

49

I was wondering how they are going to get it tuned in time, but I guess they will just be using the same ECU and maps from the Supra?

50

Why are there so many NIT-PICKERS on here.... This car looks great.... but seriously... Grey duct tape? pfft why didn't you use black.... OMG...

51

Why are there so many NIT-PICKERS on here.... This car looks great.... but seriously... Grey duct tape? pfft why didn't you use black.... OMG...

52

Why are there so many NIT-PICKERS on here.... This car looks great.... but seriously... Grey duct tape? pfft why didn't you use black.... OMG...

53

 @KevinTaddeo it's a growing  blog-nomenon sweeping the interweb...
 
but seriously.. gray duct tape? c'mon

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 @KevinTaddeo it's a growing  blog-nomenon sweeping the interweb...
 
but seriously.. gray duct tape? c'mon

55

 @KevinTaddeo it's a growing  blog-nomenon sweeping the interweb...
 
but seriously.. gray duct tape? c'mon

56

This is an incredible build. Well done guys

57

its because GM v8s only belong in GM cars...

58

 @Skirmish Wow you don't know what car the 2jz belongs to yet you suggest they use an LS7 for this build?  Wow why are you even on this website lol.
 
Besides keeping Toyota tradition with the 2jz it is jdm and will beat any pos v8 engine built in America.

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speedhunters_dino

 @SamNalven Yes it will be running the same settings.  They are still working on the car right now, so hopefully it will be done in time

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speedhunters_dino

 @reno808 More is coming!

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speedhunters_dino

 @BayArea86 That's a good question.  I'll find out tomorrow

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speedhunters_dino

 @AlexLobanov Are you saying that just because it is cast iron? Might not have the fancy design of some stainless steel manifolds but it does the job very well apparently and it is reliable.  On a drift car that gets abuses, you can't argue with reliability

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speedhunters_dino

 @super_mut It's a good thing Norway is nice and cool then!

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speedhunters_dino

 @AaronVenable As they say, you gotta eat, right?

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speedhunters_dino

 @missile They hadn't fitted them yet.  Wait until tomorrow:)

66

 @speedhunters_dino Thanks for the info Dino. Great coverage of the team's 11th hour struggles and I look forward to seeing what this 86 can do!

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hey guys,  this is awesome !
the fact that you are doing everything at home in your garage makes this project even better
looks like you have a lot of devotion from a good bunch of hard working guys
keep up the good work , i hope you guys can finish the car in time
looking forward to seeing the rest of the build dino
so loving this GT86 + 2JZ combo
 
cheers
ewan

68

@FrodeOlsen don't let my rx7 know

69

The Team Need for Speed livery is such a classic already. Instantly identifiable.
 
Didn't one of you guys on here design that? Awesome
 
Car looks great, but if youhave a Team Need for Speed graphics, then why no Need for Speed World or Most Wanted logos?

70

Going out on a limb here but the red coils are from Audi's performance motors. Usually when you run a stand alone ecu, you can run whatever coils you want. Being that the car is in Norway, not only do they perform better but they are probably easier to get than OEM Toyota coils. From experience on the higher horsepower 2JZ's, the stock coils love to crap out and over heat.

71

Forgot to include, build is dope! nice coverage as always. In the sea of LS's I saw at Formula D, seeing and hearing Daigo's 2JZ Soarer spooling and turbo back firing added an element that the loud Nascar-esque V8's didn't. This car is going to be awesome.

72

Yea, Speedhunter Andy Blackmore designed that. =)

73

 @AaronVenable
 Nope. I welded, the other guys ate. Can't chew and TIG at the same time. :)

74

Need first key turn video! :(

75

 @SWR you were framed! haha... good hustle on all the last minute fab

76

Can't wait to see it in action tomorrow at rudskogen! 

77

 @speedhunters_dino Exactly, Cast Iron is the way to go for reliability. How often do you see a cast iron manifold break opposed to a tubular one? They handle heat cycling a lot better.

78

That last picture:  Holy shit, backpurge those pipes!  That oxidation looks grody.

79

Would have, but was literally out of gas and had no Y fitting for the gas available.. Doesn't look good, but I have done it before and never had a seam crack from it. Yet. Knock on wood..

80

Would have, but was literally out of gas and had no Y fitting for the gas available.. Doesn't look good, but I have done it before and never had a seam crack from it. Yet. Knock on wood..

81

Would have, but was literally out of gas and had no Y fitting for the gas available.. Doesn't look good, but I have done it before and never had a seam crack from it. Yet. Knock on wood..

82

Would have, but was literally out of gas and had no Y fitting for the gas available.. Doesn't look good, but I have done it before and never had a seam crack from it. Yet. Knock on wood..

83

Would have, but was literally out of gas and had no Y fitting for the gas available.. Doesn't look good, but I have done it before and never had a seam crack from it. Yet. Knock on wood..

84

Would have, but was literally out of gas and had no Y fitting for the gas available.. Doesn't look good, but I have done it before and never had a seam crack from it. Yet. Knock on wood..

85

How many hp is this motor puting out?
 

86

 @CP9A Will
 most likely, and the audi coils are for every market and only about $25 each.

87

lol..."For the cost of a 1000hp 2JZ you can build a 1500hp V8" ...that's a quote from a JDM tuner who calls the 2jz over-rated and points out the only ones who don't understand this are the hella flush/JDM noobs with no clue what makes a race car function. The teams using V8's are seasoned tuners and racers. But I guess keepin it JDM is what its all about these days

88

lol..."For the cost of a 1000hp 2JZ you can build a 1500hp V8" ...that's a quote from a JDM tuner who calls the 2jz over-rated and points out the only ones who don't understand this are the hella flush/JDM noobs with no clue what makes a race car function. The teams using V8's are seasoned tuners and racers. But I guess keepin it JDM is what its all about these days

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lol..."For the cost of a 1000hp 2JZ you can build a 1500hp V8" ...that's a quote from a JDM tuner who calls the 2jz over-rated and points out the only ones who don't understand this are the hella flush/JDM noobs with no clue what makes a race car function. The teams using V8's are seasoned tuners and racers. But I guess keepin it JDM is what its all about these days

90

 @JoaoOliveira
 About 645 hp to the hubs at 1.6Bar / 23 psi on E85.

91

Cant wait to see it!  I think alot of people will change their minds once they hear the engine, glad to hear its staying turbo.   Yea the LS7 is good and all but FRANKLY,  I I'm like sure many others are tired of hearing the same sounding engine drifting past us.  Only 645hp leaves alot of room to increase the power later as well too.  I think the livery should be louder, black wheels drifting=NO GO, It doesn't allow the spectators to really see the angle as opposed to bright wheels.   Still,  Top Drift Car honors are possibly due from what I can see so far.   

92

I feel like this car is going to be amazing .I also like the paint job too, the red colour goes great with the black. Can't wait to see it in action.

93

 @AaronVenable yea its heavier the 2jz is but the weight difference is minuscule really.

94

 @Car Guy 1985 Now who might of said that I remember reading that article its very bias tho for him to make comment like that in a magazine being he is a jdm tuner, or claimed to be.  He definitely know his stuff, though,   but you can give me the 2jz over the ls1 all day long its my personal preference, makes things more challenging instead of trying to level the drifting field. 

95

 @Skirmish You ready these are my favorite cars hands down, all 4 door drift cars I covet,  So 1jz never came to the states it came in the earlier chasers, cresta, mark II, or the toyota soarer chasis codes jzx81, jzx90, jzx100 jzx110.  Verossa=jzx110 newest model.  The US equivalent would be the mx83 or Toyota cressida. My favorite by far.   The 2jz came in the supra and aristo, or chasis code um jzs147 and jzs161  and jza80....... And now the 2jz was shipped to US w/more power and manual tranny  in the supra variant only, expensive as the export models would have your 6speed attached to it, the v160 and the 1jz had the r154. Thats about what I remember without leaving the page and deleting my comment.  1jz sounds better than the 2jz and its underrated as well overshadowed by its bigger brother and its torque.  I think if I had the money though I would be unique and make a 1.5jz large single turbo in a cressida. So there you have it and yea flamers im sure I missed something too feel free to chime in and Yo skirmish you gotta get out more brotha read more, how would you not know what cars  those engines came  unless your a young guy.  The same engine smoked that ferrari in the 1rst Fast and Furious,  Oh yea and Daigo Saito is pushing in the area of 1200hp with nos  bro.  I got a Memory like a elephant.

96

 @SWR Exhaust from a running car's tailpipe also works better than nothing in a pinch. Ask me how I know...

97

I can't believe people still argue about what kind of powerplant someone else is using these days. I don't know about anybody else, but I've seen so many kinds of builds and my taste isn't limited to one make, model or engine. It's like the people behind Speedhunters are the only one to understand it but not a single person on here does. I'd love a Stroker 383 MX62 someday, or a Toyota 1UZ powered Vega wagon. I think after being in the car scene for so long and so many builds recycled, my favorite builds in recent years, are the outlandish ones. I come from Toyota enthusiasm, Japanese engineering in general you could say but overall I like to think I'm a car enthusiast. 
 
So quit crying. Especially all you Quasi-Toyota '4 Door-Drift' tools.... your not fooling anyone, we know you started by driving an S13. lol

98

 @DZA  Seriously dude? Im Sorry but I see you referencing me for what you are a hater I at no time hated or posed an argument towards anyone or you Mr. Toyota  fan boy.  Dont come crying to me about what I said I myself have never owned a nissan but thats in the plans as well too most likely a v-8 Ls2 are cheap here, got a friend here in AZ with a 1UZ you want , in a S13 too so lets not say that I wouldn't own one just haven't yet. As far arguing bro I debate or make my statement and move on I don't know you personally at all.   It appears your comment is the only 1 out of everybody's thats trying to start a argument, so hear go back and read my posts and what I said, which clearly referenced style and wheels and not the powerplants. And still gave credit were credit was due at the end so Check all my post for that matter I made my opinions on what I like which seems to be a toyota powerplant  little dude.  So check ya self  learn something new and most of all stay in your place.  Don't hate me because I'm more knowledgable than you on Toyotas probably those Nissans too.   I grew up on 350 rockets and posse rear-ends old schools and Hondas Ima 80's baby I know my shit I don't try to fool anyone as I don't need to.  I give knowledge and take criticism just as well, and yours just sucked you made no points, I see your not here to give any knowledge as well but just state bs crap on those recycled builds you eventually want to own someday Best of Luck to ya.  Just 1 thing How the hell you gonna be a true Toyota enthusiast but hate on another Toyota lover and dislike 4 doors?  Half of the RWD fleet is 4 doors, were you ever aware of that and the US only has a cressida which is a 4 door damn you dumb. So is that tired mx62 of yours its 4 door once again. LOL Im done on that note man theres really nothing more to say go  get ya knowledge up before you come over here addressing me about Toyotas or just learn to read better before you comment Im the wrong dude for that shit. You stick to drag racing do you and ill stick to drifting and do me.  Stop that side haten bro that shit is gay, come at me correct or keep your mouth shut.   

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I'd wager that you welded a running car's exhaust once and looked at it on the inside after..?

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I'd wager that you welded a running car's exhaust once and looked at it on the inside after..?

101

What kind of manifold is the exhaust one? and what meters are u running inside the car.Was sweet to see you at gatebil, I'm starting to like this car alot :)

102

 @Robin Pipirs
 SPA Engineering cast iron one. Real spacesaver.. :)

103

 @SWR sweet, what make are the gauges inside?
 

104

 @Robin Pipirs
 Sorry Robin, that I have NO clue about. Unless some of the other guys can tell I'll have to check it next week..

105

 @SWR Biltema! :)

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 @FredricAasbo  @SWR I knew it! :)

107

 @DamonAllen  @DZA That was vey difficult to read sir. Why can't we all just enjoy this beautiful car presented to us?

108

 @DamonAllen  @DZA That was vey difficult to read sir. Why can't we all just enjoy this beautiful car presented to us?

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ChristopherMathes

Eric Hsu...in a Super Street article. Check it out...here's his EXACT quote.
 
"what tuners in America don't realize is if you spent the same money you would building a 1,000whp 2JZ, you could have a 1,600whp small-block Chevy..."
 
Read more: http://www.superstreetonline.com/features/130_0703_interview_xs_engineering_eric_hsu/viewall.html#ixzz25QZnO
 
Last year he was with Sierra Sierra Enterprises and their WTAC Evo that came in second place.  I'm not hating on any 1 engine. It's funny when guys who actually build and race these cars have opinions that differ from SO many fanboys that light up these forums,websites,etc. Just enjoy the SPEED  @Car Guy 1985 

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ChristopherMathes

Eric Hsu...in a Super Street article. Check it out...here's his EXACT quote.
 
"what tuners in America don't realize is if you spent the same money you would building a 1,000whp 2JZ, you could have a 1,600whp small-block Chevy..."
 
Read more: http://www.superstreetonline.com/features/130_0703_interview_xs_engineering_eric_hsu/viewall.html#ixzz25QZnO
 
Last year he was with Sierra Sierra Enterprises and their WTAC Evo that came in second place.  I'm not hating on any 1 engine. It's funny when guys who actually build and race these cars have opinions that differ from SO many fanboys that light up these forums,websites,etc. Just enjoy the SPEED  @Car Guy 1985 

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