Last week before I headed to Antioch for the Billetproof show, I made a stop by the Fatlace Paddock in San Mateo to catch up with Mark Arcenal and company. Despite the fact that I only live a couple hours away, this was actually my first time to visit The Paddock.
I’d heard that the guys were working on some pretty cool projects for the upcoming SEMA Show, so I was excited to get a peek at those and to check out the shop itself.
Whether it’s introducing new products, planning events across the world, or overseeing project cars, to say these guys are busy would be a massive understatement. There was much Speedhunting to do.
But not before I chowed down on the delicious cookie I was offered right when I walked in. Even with the incredibly busy schedule, there is a certain sense of fun and a laid back attitude that shines through at The Paddock. It’s an enjoyable place to be.
From there I headed next door to the garage area, which was full of projects for this year’s SEMA Show. It’s always strange how SEMA sneaks up on us. One moment it’s the middle of the summer and the next moment people are scrambling to get their builds completed for the big show. Believe it or not, at this point the madness of SEMA is just a little over a month away.
This year the Fatlace crew will be showing three cars at SEMA, two of which were present at The Paddock when I visited. Perhaps the most exciting is their R35 GT-R project. As you can see, much of the car’s body panels have been removed.
And that’s because the car will be the first American-based GT-R to have the BenSopra body conversion. It’s easy to underestimate just how much work goes into one of these conversions until you see the car in the process of being built.
Naturally, the GT-R will also be sporting some other tasty tuning parts besides the aero kit. I’m very excited to see the finished product at SEMA next month. I actually forgot to ask the guys what kind of wheel setup the car will be running, but I suppose that will be nice surprise come SEMA time.
The other project car in the garage is one that should be a very popular platform at SEMA this year – the Scion FR-S. As the photo suggests, they haven’t really dug into this one yet.
It’s actually waiting for its Rocket Bunny kit to arrive from Japan. That wait can be a very frustrating process – especially with deadlines looming. Ah yes, the fun of SEMA.
Mixed in with the ongoing SEMA projects was Mark’s well known Pandora One RWB 964.
This was my first time to see the car in its new black scheme, and I have to say that it looks fantastic. It brought back all those same feelings I got when I first photographed RWB machines in Japan some four and a half years ago.
With all the focus on the SEMA projects, I actually forgot the fact that The Paddock also serves as the home of RWB USA. In the short time that he’s been building cars for US customers, Nakai-san has made quite a splash here.
All through the shop, touches of his personality are present…
Much like the RWB home base in Chiba, a pool table takes up a prominent spot in the garage. It’s a home away from home.
At every corner of the shop there’s some sort of homage to the gang’s automotive inspirations from around the world.
There are also several sets of mouth watering wheels being stored in the garage. Do you think anyone would notice if these SSR Mk.IIIs just happened to disappear one day?
How about these retro TOM’S aero wheels. Very cool.
Besides the SEMA projects and RWB cars, The Paddock also serves an occasional work area for the Fatlace crew’s personal project cars and daily drivers.
Felix recently picked up this half-completed SR-swapped S13 convertible for dirt cheap and now he’s in the process of making it into a drift car. As you can see, he’s already fitted a complete Rocket Bunny kit, complete with over fenders.
The next step is to thrown on this set of aggressive SSR Professors, which will look just right under the huge flares.
There’s Todd’s F20C-swapped Corolla which serves as his daily driver to and from The Paddock every day.
Kenny’s Corolla Wagon and Felix’s Kenmeri Skyline. I don’t think there is a single Fatlace employee who isn’t obsessed with automobiles. That’s a good thing.
Of course The Paddock serves as much more than just a place for working on and storing cars. It also acts as a photo studio, warehouse and distribution center for the Fatlace/Illest product lines.
Hey, that stuff looks familiar. Fatlace is also helping us with the North American manufacture, sales and distribution of the newly released Speedhunters EDTN product line.
Now that the store is officially open, these goods will soon be on their way to the hands of Speedhunters fans.
It’s also not uncommon for an impromptu jam session to break out at The Paddock – using paper instruments of course.
I have to say that Kenny Chow probably has one of the coolest workspaces I’ve ever seen. It puts my own desk to shame.
My Hot Wheels collection is also put to shame by these guys. Unlike me, they have the restraint to keep their cars in the original packages…
Kenny also had some slick old school Japanese models he had assembled and displayed on his desk.
He was also proud to show me his papercraft Kenmeri Skyline. The flares and long nose conversion are his own personal touches of course.
While I was there at the shop hanging out, a local dropped by driving this bitchin’ SS 396 Chevelle. He had driven by a few times in the past and decided to stop by and check it out. I’m told this sort of thing is a regular occurrence and the guys always welcome people to come by and check out what they are working on.
I’d like to thank Mark, Todd, Felix, Kenny, and co. for taking the time to show me around. This my have been my first visit to The Paddock, but it won’t be my last.
Now, the countdown to SEMA continues.
-Mike
OFFICIAL SPEEDHUNTERS SUPPLIERS
Always great to see what the greats are up to, always cool to see the projects and see how car crazy you have to be to understand the love that these guys have for the motorsport community and culture.
Taking picture of people sharing cookies - is this what Speedhunters has become?
I WANT THAT SKYLIND D:
Congratulations to the staff of Speed Hunters and Fatlace. Excellent job!
@d15b2 Err scroll down a few photos please!
Jealous of the wall of Hot Wheels. I need to do that with my collection
@d15b2 Yes, there are plenty of other photos in the story besides that one...
Dislike thats repainted RWB Porsche, should of left it green
Dislike that repainted RWB Porsche, should of left it green
personal opinion but, "fatlace-paddock-25" is desktop material.
Lol that workspace is actually Max Nagano's.
@BlackJacket I personally think it looks much better black. Reminds me of the Blackbird from Wangan Midnight or something lol
what do they do produce? I thought it was just t-shirts and hats. are they a tuning shop too?
i Want i T-shirt...i'll be the first one here in Brazil! =p That's Nice!
@BlackJacket it wasn't painted green it was black originally and a matte green was put on it after, and now its back to black.
Good stuff. the T-Shirt would be a nice thing to own for sure
@BlackJacket once you go black, you always go back....
FATLACE = TRENDHUMPERS
I'm sure Mark is gonna say something and disagree with me. But to me Fatlace/Illest/Hellaflush do not bring anything "fresh" to the table.
Something FRESH comes out from Japan, and Mark and company are quickly bringing it to the US hoping to make a statement.
RWB was great if it stayed in Japan. Bringing it to the US thru Mark's business has been a great mistake!
The two businesses do not share the same philosophy.
While Mr. Nakai HAS something fresh and unique to present to the world, Mark is just a follower.
The Pandora One was presented to SEMA last year. In a year how many RWB Porsches have been built in US? 5? Is that a success?
Nakai should have gone thru another embassador to bring his name to the US.
So now is the Ben Sopra clash. And the same story will unfold.
Sorry but no groundbreaking ideas come from Mark and his business.
I am trying to still figure out why so many people in the car-tuning scene associate Mark and his company to a great pioneer.
Mark, if you read this comment, if you wanna be "fresh" you have to be innovative! Think with your own head, and stop copying ideas from others.
@JDMized Dude. Mark Arcenal is a glorfied filipino t-shirt seller that grew up in the fast and the furious era. He markets his goods by mixing skate/street/urban style clothing with motorsports. He isn't a mechanic, machinist, nor an engineer. He's like the child version of Daymond John (FUBU) for the filipinos. All his "bespoke" cars that he drives is thanks to the stickers, lanyards and shirts peeps here in cali buy. Whatever though, we're not reading motoiq so...can't expect anything technical.
@Mechne Isn't sad that all his exposure in car magazines are due to stickers and license plate frame?
Isn't SH suppose to focus on people that actually contribute something to the automotive world?
You're right, Fatlace and MotoIQ stand on the opposite spectrum of the scene, and maybe I'm too naive to digest that.
But the people that really do something for this industry (the people that actually build the cars for Mark).....those people are never mentioned, and given credit....how far is that?
A 240SX convertible with a widebody kit on it, tasty!
the last picture got a rwb truck any info of it?
just seems like they are just a clothing company making hypebeast showcars. wheres the originality?
Mike Garrett, where did my comment go? You guys deleted it because you can't take constructive criticism on this site? SH, known as a mainstream auto-blog should feature people that actually matter in the car industry. People that actually wrench on Mark's cars. Those people are never mentioned.
Like others have pointed out, clothing companies have little to do with cars. Instead of getting butt hurt, let's have a mature discussion where EVERYONE speak their mind; instead of casting out the ones that do not agree.
@JDMized Alex I deleted you comments. While we are very happy for discussion and opinions to be vented here, your diatribe went into a pretty direct personal attack on another person. This is quite unacceptable behavior which even lead to another person starting into some racially weighed diatribe.
Alex I respect a lot of your viewpoints, but in this instance you crossed the line of acceptable behavior.
Mature discussions are great. Personal attacks are unacceptable. Hence deleted comments. If you want to spread hate towards another person feel free to do so elsewhere.
@JDMized Alex I deleted your comments. While we are very happy for discussion and opinions to be vented here, your diatribe went into a pretty direct personal attack on another person. This is quite unacceptable behavior which even lead to another person starting into some racially weighed diatribe. Alex I respect a lot of your viewpoints, but in this instance you crossed the line of acceptable behavior. Mature discussions are great. Personal attacks are unacceptable. Hence deleted comments. If you want to spread hate towards another person please do so elsewhere.
Sooo.. what would i have to do to work with you guys "P
People who hate on Fatlace and the people who work there blow my mind. They are enthusiasts like everyone else on Speedhunters and they run a legitimate business that is strongly fueled by their passion for the automotive scene. They organize meets and participate heavily in many different automotive scenes. They sponsor three amazing Formula D drivers and most of their employees own a neat car. I suggest actually meeting the Fatlace crew before jumping to an unjustified conclusions. It is amazing to see how Fatlace has evolved over the years and as far as I am concerned it couldn't have happen to a better group of people.
@WesOngchampOng thanks wes! lol
Can we have more pictures on the white KE70 and the Green KE70 wagon???
@RyanB I personally don't hate Fatlace. I'm actually am in awe of their accomplishments. Not many brands have blended hip-hop, graph, sneaker (where I'm from we call em tennis) & modern car culture. The mere name Fatlace is a nod to 80's hip-hop culture. Whether that was intentional, I don't know, but I get it. I also credit them for finally popularizing offset with wheel selection. To me, offset is the most important aspect of a wheel purchase. No wheel looks good without the right offset. Now where things go off track, to me, is when we see cars so "stanced" that they are undrivable. Sure somebody drives them, but it is clearly unsafe. I think that is what most hate but cannot articulate, and then point the finger at Fatlace. In my observation, I don't see those mistakes coming from Fatlace. I tend to view donk & stance cars in the same light. They are extreme opposites of the same coin to me. Perhaps I read too many articles by Mike Kojima in SCC to begin to tolerate aggressive stance cars. Maybe some one wants to call that opinion, when one dislikes a car setup that in part destroyed a car from being mobile. Lol. In any event, I just wanted to type this voice to you Ryan, and anybody, that the hate flows Fatlace's way because people relate the stance movement to them. Unwarranted or not, they still capitalized on it, and should be respected. I respect them. Others that follow, should maybe learn more about cars and how they function. And really, bad press is good press.
@RyanB I personally don't hate Fatlace. I'm actually am in awe of their accomplishments. Not many brands have blended hip-hop, graph, sneaker (where I'm from we call em tennis) & modern car culture. The mere name Fatlace is a nod to 80's hip-hop culture. Whether that was intentional, I don't know, but I get it. I also credit them for finally popularizing offset with wheel selection. To me, offset is the most important aspect of a wheel purchase. No wheel looks good without the right offset. Now where things go off track, to me, is when we see cars so "stanced" that they are undrivable. Sure somebody drives them, but it is clearly unsafe. I think that is what most hate but cannot articulate, and then point the finger at Fatlace. In my observation, I don't see those mistakes coming from Fatlace. I tend to view donk & stance cars in the same light. They are extreme opposites of the same coin to me. Perhaps I read too many articles by Mike Kojima in SCC to begin to tolerate aggressive stance cars. Maybe some one wants to call that opinion, when one dislikes a car setup that in part destroyed a car from being mobile. Lol. In any event, I just wanted to type this voice to you Ryan, and anybody, that the hate flows Fatlace's way because people relate the stance movement to them. Unwarranted or not, they still capitalized on it, and should be respected. I respect them. Others that follow, should maybe learn more about cars and how they function. And really, bad press is good press.
wheres their Hako??!
wheres their Hako??!
As I scroll through the photos, I think of what a wonderful place the internet is... and then I reach the comment section and think of what a terrible thing it has become.
Do what you do Speedhunters. No amount of jealousy and hate will deter true enthusiasts from enjoying every article you post. And if you haven't featured their cars before, yesterday would be a good time.
As I scroll through the photos, I think of what a wonderful place the internet is... and then I reach the comment section and think of what a terrible thing it has become.
Do what you do Speedhunters. No amount of jealousy and hate will deter true enthusiasts from enjoying every article you post. And if you haven't featured their cars before, yesterday would be a good time.
@RodChong I do not "hate" anyone or anything.
Let's not confuse "dislike" with "hate".
I think Mark is an excellent business man, but I questioned his integrity and core value MANY times.
As I said in my previous comment, I struggle to understand why he has so much exposure for the little work (automotive-speaking) his company does.
Since when buying a bodykit from Japan is considered an instant hit on this scene?
I know Rod you have to protect the name of SH and the good relationship (business relationship sounds better) you have with Mark, but there are thousands of people adding genuine bodykit from Japan everyday!
I don't see the uniqueness (Fatlace followers call it "fresh") in all this.
"Fresh" would be something original, never-applied before, something that stands out.
The sticker bombing crap has been a plague in this scene for over a year, and so those slammed cars with roof racks. Where is the freshness?
Is Mark an innovator, or a trend-follower?
As I said in the comment you deleted, I feel bad for Nakai San. That man stays up all night crafting away one by one his precious customers car, then Mark imports his name in the US and everyone's attention get to Mark?
Wtf?
Nakai has been in business for over a decade now! Where were those so called "hardcore" enthusiasts when Nakai was adding his flavor to early Porsches?
Maybe those hardcore enthusiasts are not so hardcore after all.
And like Nakai, there are many many Japanese tuners in Japan that haven't "bloomed" in the US market just yet.
Why does Mark deserve the credit when the actual idea and work was done by others YEARS ago?
The Ben Sopra was presented at this year's TAS.
Is presenting Mark's Ben Sopra so "fresh" after all?
Does it really need ANOTHER introduction?
Again, this is NOT hate, it's purely dislike.
@RodChong I do not "hate" anyone or anything.
Let's not confuse "dislike" with "hate".
I think Mark is an excellent business man, but I questioned his integrity and core value MANY times.
As I said in my previous comment, I struggle to understand why he has so much exposure for the little work (automotive-speaking) his company does.
Since when buying a bodykit from Japan is considered an instant hit on this scene?
I know Rod you have to protect the name of SH and the good relationship (business relationship sounds better) you have with Mark, but there are thousands of people adding genuine bodykit from Japan everyday!
I don't see the uniqueness (Fatlace followers call it "fresh") in all this.
"Fresh" would be something original, never-applied before, something that stands out.
The sticker bombing crap has been a plague in this scene for over a year, and so those slammed cars with roof racks. Where is the freshness?
Is Mark an innovator, or a trend-follower?
As I said in the comment you deleted, I feel bad for Nakai San. That man stays up all night crafting away one by one his precious customers car, then Mark imports his name in the US and everyone's attention get to Mark?
Wtf?
Nakai has been in business for over a decade now! Where were those so called "hardcore" enthusiasts when Nakai was adding his flavor to early Porsches?
Maybe those hardcore enthusiasts are not so hardcore after all.
And like Nakai, there are many many Japanese tuners in Japan that haven't "bloomed" in the US market just yet.
Why does Mark deserve the credit when the actual idea and work was done by others YEARS ago?
The Ben Sopra was presented at this year's TAS.
Is presenting Mark's Ben Sopra so "fresh" after all?
Does it really need ANOTHER introduction?
Again, this is NOT hate, it's purely dislike.
@JDMized
I see you "dislike" a lot of things presented on Speedhunters. That life will not make it.
@JDMized
I see you "dislike" a lot of things presented on Speedhunters. That life will not make it.
@JDMized I use the comment section on SH talk about cars!
@JDMized I use the comment section on SH talk about cars!
@JDMized Hi Alex. Ok m8 you 'dislike' Mark and are clear that you want to voice this viewpoint and reasoning.
This post is not about Mark.
It's about a fairly innocent and quick visit to an intersting (to us) setup that Fatlace have in San Fran. It's not meant to be more than that. We find them to be an inspirational group of people and have a lot of respect for what they do. So we stopped by to say hello and check out their new projects.
I don't have much else to say! Let's move on to the next story
You don't like it? Fine by me... I hope we produce and feature other builders and car types that you find interesting in some fashion.
@JDMized Hi Alex. Ok m8 you 'dislike' Mark and are clear that you want to voice this viewpoint and reasoning.
This post is not about Mark.
It's about a fairly innocent and quick visit to an intersting (to us) setup that Fatlace have in San Fran. It's not meant to be more than that. We find them to be an inspirational group of people and have a lot of respect for what they do. So we stopped by to say hello and check out their new projects.
I don't have much else to say! Let's move on to the next story
You don't like it? Fine by me... I hope we produce and feature other builders and car types that you find interesting in some fashion.
Why is it when I read another awesome post here, it's ruined by the closed minded fools who flood it?
About time someone put that JDMized in his (or her) place. Look, if your not a car enthusiast keep off and let the rest of us enjoy.
i spy a hot wheels 240z treasure hunt car, i wanttttt!
@MPistol @RyanB Thanks. I've worked very hard with everyone on the team to bring our lifestyle whether it's through the portal of fatlace, the illest clothing line or the tuning style of hellaflush. We basically feature the stuff we do everyday and work with brands and people we know and like.
@RyanB yes, fatlace is a tribute to hip hop and the b-boy lifestyle i grew up with. I started the site in 1999, a very long time ago and we've never changed our attitude towards anything. Its always been the same, now its just more focused. We reference alot of the stuff Ive grown up with and as you can see, it shows.
Also, I've been messing with cars since I got my first car in 86. I used to install everything I could but as I've become more and more busy, Ive looked to many others who are experts in their field help me with builds (although Im building the BenSopra GTR in our warehouse this year.)
As for Nakai, he and I have a great relationship and I've never taken the spotlight away from him. Ive only helped amplify his brand and work as the US Brand Manager. I offer a warehouse in the USA for him to work on cars and ask for nothing in return. He inspires me as do many others in this world. Its funny there are so many stories about Nakai that have been twisted by those that havent even spoken to him. Its like a story that gets re-written 100x.
Hmmm....Hotwheels all over my garage wall doesn't sound that bad at all!! Nice place!!
@KietaPhillips AMEN KietaPhillips.
HATING HAS NO PLACE IN THIS HOBBY.
HATING HAS NO PLACE IN THIS HOBBY.
HATING HAS NO PLACE IN THIS HOBBY.
@MarkArcenal just a few short weeks ago, I was in line for a ride at Paramount's Kings Dominion in Richmond VA, and this kid in front of me had the Fatlace logo tattooed on his arm. When u have that kind of effect on people, I feel like you have gotta be doing somethin profound and effective to the culture. Be proud, seriously.
@MarkArcenal just a few short weeks ago, I was in line for a ride at Paramount's Kings Dominion in Richmond VA, and this kid in front of me had the Fatlace logo tattooed on his arm. When u have that kind of effect on people, I feel like you have gotta be doing somethin profound and effective to the culture. Be proud, seriously.
@MarkArcenal just a few short weeks ago, I was in line for a ride at Paramount's Kings Dominion in Richmond VA, and this kid in front of me had the Fatlace logo tattooed on his arm. When u have that kind of effect on people, I feel like you have gotta be doing somethin profound and effective to the culture. Be proud, seriously.
I want to rent a warehouse next door to this place and turn it into the Speedhunters photo studio... would be the coolest industrial park on the planet.
Damn love the HotWheels collection, makes me drool
@TylerS13
And I spy a Ghost Busters wagon and a Ferrari 512, I also wantttt!
@hanablemoore Indeed.
actually, that white GT-R (R35) is NOT the first R35 in North American to have the full BenSopra kit. That credit goes to Ricky Kwan's GT-R of R's Tuning who actually was just visited by Kei Miura San himself (designer of the BenSopra GT-R kit) today. Do some research before you make such claims....
Unfortunately, this GT-R won't be the first to have the BenSopra kit in the US.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/75483-the-rs-tuning-x-ricky-kwan-r35-no-chicken-hit-progress-build-thread/
Unfortunately, this GT-R won't be the first to have the BenSopra kit in the US.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/75483-the-rs-tuning-x-ricky-kwan-r35-no-chicken-hit-progress-build-thread/
Unfortunately, this GT-R won't be the first to have the BenSopra kit in the US.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/75483-the-rs-tuning-x-ricky-kwan-r35-no-chicken-hit-progress-build-thread/
Unfortunately, this GT-R won't be the first to have the BenSopra kit in the US.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/75483-the-rs-tuning-x-ricky-kwan-r35-no-chicken-hit-progress-build-thread/
Unfortunately, this GT-R won't be the first to have the BenSopra kit in the US.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/75483-the-rs-tuning-x-ricky-kwan-r35-no-chicken-hit-progress-build-thread/
Next time I'm in California, I'm stopping by. That last text block made up my mind.
Next time I'm in California, I'm stopping by. That last text block made up my mind.
Next time I'm in California, I'm stopping by. That last text block made up my mind.
Next time I'm in California, I'm stopping by. That last text block made up my mind.
Next time I'm in California, I'm stopping by. That last text block made up my mind.
I've been in the import car scene since the early 90's. I've seen all the fads come and go. Mark, enjoy your time while it is here. Tomorrow, it will be gone. Remember, this "thing" is about motor sports. Always have been and always will be.
I've been in the import car scene since the early 90's. I've seen all the fads come and go. Mark, enjoy your time while it is here. Tomorrow, it will be gone. Remember, this "thing" is about motor sports. Always have been and always will be.
I've been in the import car scene since the early 90's. I've seen all the fads come and go. Mark, enjoy your time while it is here. Tomorrow, it will be gone. Remember, this "thing" is about motor sports. Always have been and always will be.
I've been in the import car scene since the early 90's. I've seen all the fads come and go. Mark, enjoy your time while it is here. Tomorrow, it will be gone. Remember, this "thing" is about motor sports. Always have been and always will be.
I've been in the import car scene since the early 90's. I've seen all the fads come and go. Mark, enjoy your time while it is here. Tomorrow, it will be gone. Remember, this "thing" is about motor sports. Always have been and always will be.
@hanablemoore Hellaflush is not a hobby, it's a trend.
@KietaPhillips Trends are not for the true auto enthusiasts.
@Luka024 It's called freedom of speech, you idiot. If you been long enough you'd notice that hellaflush is following the same steps original rice took back in 2002. Now it's 2012, different name, but same premise.
@MPistol @MarkArcenal "...this kid in front of me had the Fatlace logo tattooed on his arm. When u have that kind of effect on people, I feel like you have gotta be doing somethin profound and effective to the culture."
No, it's called stupid. Stupid because the kid will regret it in a few years when hellaflush will finally be regarded as just another form of rice.
@PCYang You can say that again.
@apex_DNA @Luka024 Freedom of speech and acting like a complete douche bag, like yourself, are two different things. While you are certainly free to make an ass of yourself with your ethug attitude, doesn't mean you have to.
@Luka024 @apex_DNA @Luka024 E-thug? Are you seriously offended? Wow.
@edd Amen brotha. I went to hellaflush in Nor Cal couple of weeks ago, and it was like 2002 all over again. Other than a few well-done and presentable rides, most had fake wheels, sticker bombing, cracked fenders, hipster music, and a bunch of teenagers who don't know any better, it was downright nauseating.
Very much so.
@d15b2 Cookiehunting is where it's at? I sure hope they were laced...lol
Drifting is not a motorsport, it's more like olympics.
@JDMized @RodChong Dude, you need like a blog or something, and I mean it...start by integrating SH into it with your commentary. I'll read it, sure beats the "knee padding" that's been going around here for the last 3 years (not you, "them").
@d15b2 Cookiehunting is where it's at, apparently. I sure hope they were fatLACED...lol
@d15b2 Cookiehunting is where it's at. I sure hope they were fatLACED...lol
Couldnt agree more. give it 5 more years and you wont even remember the name.
love this guy lol.
@apex_DNA @Luka024 When all these so called "enthusiasts" are tired of buying tires every other month, replacing their oil pans, repairing exhaust leaks, and bouncing up and down in their cars like fools, I (and all the real enthusiasts) will still be here doing what I (we) have been doing for the last 15+ years.
@apex_DNA @Luka024 When all these so called "enthusiasts" are tired of buying tires every other month, replacing their oil pans, repairing exhaust leaks, and bouncing up and down in their cars like fools, I (and all the real enthusiasts) will still be here doing what I (we) have been doing for the last 15+ years.
@apex_DNA @Luka024 When all these so called "enthusiasts" are tired of buying tires every other month, replacing their oil pans, repairing exhaust leaks, and bouncing up and down in their cars like fools, I (and all the real enthusiasts) will still be here doing what I (we) have been doing for the last 15+ years.
@apex_DNA @Luka024 When all these so called "enthusiasts" are tired of buying tires every other month, replacing their oil pans, repairing exhaust leaks, and bouncing up and down in their cars like fools, I (and all the real enthusiasts) will still be here doing what I (we) have been doing for the last 15+ years.
@Luka024 I was looking for a blog called "SPEED HUNTERS", not "HARD PARKERS". Someone point me in the right direction please.
@Luka024 I was looking for a blog called "SPEED HUNTERS", not "HARD PARKERS". Someone point me in the right direction please.
@Luka024 I was looking for a blog called "SPEED HUNTERS", not "HARD PARKERS". Someone point me in the right direction please.
@Luka024 I was looking for a blog called "SPEED HUNTERS", not "HARD PARKERS". Someone point me in the right direction please.
@apex_DNA look, I've got an entire outlook on tattoo's in general, this isn't the place for that point of view, nor did I say this kid was "smart" about doing it, in fact I don't know his reasoning, but for a second, I stepped back from it and took a positive approach, and thought, something about modern automotive culture is affecting teens younger than me. I don't know this guys age, but he was clearly younger than me, I just chose to have that perspective about it. I remember when the muscle car crowd laughed "imports" off tracks and just thought, I don't want to be that ignorant guy. An I've hated what you hate, I'm just choosing to grow past it. I know the scene & I respect our culture, & its really big! Really diverse. I don't want to paint myself in a corner over a certain brand. As I said above, I don't see what I don't like, coming from Fatlace, so they earned a pass. For those that imitate styles & flirt with functional disaster, I mean, we need to allow it to happen so we can all learn & grow. I cut my springs as a kid to get low! Lol. I didn't know anything, but at the time, u couldn't tell me sh*t. Lol. I had to defend FnF when it dropped, when I knew sh*t was gay! Lol. We are going to have these fads & trends, it has to happen. We just have to be ok with it, or it could screw up your outlook. Nothing personal, I'm just sayin. I defend the cars I like for so long, I'm just sick of it. I'm not even trying to defend Fatlace, I'm just trying to understand their effect on ppl
@apex_DNA look, I've got an entire outlook on tattoo's in general, this isn't the place for that point of view, nor did I say this kid was "smart" about doing it, in fact I don't know his reasoning, but for a second, I stepped back from it and took a positive approach, and thought, something about modern automotive culture is affecting teens younger than me. I don't know this guys age, but he was clearly younger than me, I just chose to have that perspective about it. I remember when the muscle car crowd laughed "imports" off tracks and just thought, I don't want to be that ignorant guy. An I've hated what you hate, I'm just choosing to grow past it. I know the scene & I respect our culture, & its really big! Really diverse. I don't want to paint myself in a corner over a certain brand. As I said above, I don't see what I don't like, coming from Fatlace, so they earned a pass. For those that imitate styles & flirt with functional disaster, I mean, we need to allow it to happen so we can all learn & grow. I cut my springs as a kid to get low! Lol. I didn't know anything, but at the time, u couldn't tell me sh*t. Lol. I had to defend FnF when it dropped, when I knew sh*t was gay! Lol. We are going to have these fads & trends, it has to happen. We just have to be ok with it, or it could screw up your outlook. Nothing personal, I'm just sayin. I defend the cars I like for so long, I'm just sick of it. I'm not even trying to defend Fatlace, I'm just trying to understand their effect on ppl
@apex_DNA look, I've got an entire outlook on tattoo's in general, this isn't the place for that point of view, nor did I say this kid was "smart" about doing it, in fact I don't know his reasoning, but for a second, I stepped back from it and took a positive approach, and thought, something about modern automotive culture is affecting teens younger than me. I don't know this guys age, but he was clearly younger than me, I just chose to have that perspective about it. I remember when the muscle car crowd laughed "imports" off tracks and just thought, I don't want to be that ignorant guy. An I've hated what you hate, I'm just choosing to grow past it. I know the scene & I respect our culture, & its really big! Really diverse. I don't want to paint myself in a corner over a certain brand. As I said above, I don't see what I don't like, coming from Fatlace, so they earned a pass. For those that imitate styles & flirt with functional disaster, I mean, we need to allow it to happen so we can all learn & grow. I cut my springs as a kid to get low! Lol. I didn't know anything, but at the time, u couldn't tell me sh*t. Lol. I had to defend FnF when it dropped, when I knew sh*t was gay! Lol. We are going to have these fads & trends, it has to happen. We just have to be ok with it, or it could screw up your outlook. Nothing personal, I'm just sayin. I defend the cars I like for so long, I'm just sick of it. I'm not even trying to defend Fatlace, I'm just trying to understand their effect on ppl
@apex_DNA look, I've got an entire outlook on tattoo's in general, this isn't the place for that point of view, nor did I say this kid was "smart" about doing it, in fact I don't know his reasoning, but for a second, I stepped back from it and took a positive approach, and thought, something about modern automotive culture is affecting teens younger than me. I don't know this guys age, but he was clearly younger than me, I just chose to have that perspective about it. I remember when the muscle car crowd laughed "imports" off tracks and just thought, I don't want to be that ignorant guy. An I've hated what you hate, I'm just choosing to grow past it. I know the scene & I respect our culture, & its really big! Really diverse. I don't want to paint myself in a corner over a certain brand. As I said above, I don't see what I don't like, coming from Fatlace, so they earned a pass. For those that imitate styles & flirt with functional disaster, I mean, we need to allow it to happen so we can all learn & grow. I cut my springs as a kid to get low! Lol. I didn't know anything, but at the time, u couldn't tell me sh*t. Lol. I had to defend FnF when it dropped, when I knew sh*t was gay! Lol. We are going to have these fads & trends, it has to happen. We just have to be ok with it, or it could screw up your outlook. Nothing personal, I'm just sayin. I defend the cars I like for so long, I'm just sick of it. I'm not even trying to defend Fatlace, I'm just trying to understand their effect on ppl
@PCYang @Luka024 Did you miss the many other posts in recent days where we interviewed pro drivers, covered hardcore drag racing, WTCC action, etc. ?
Also - low, bouncing cars have been around for much longer than 15 years
@PCYang @Luka024 Did you miss the many other posts in recent days where we interviewed pro drivers, covered hardcore drag racing, WTCC action, etc. ?
Also - low, bouncing cars have been around for much longer than 15 years
@PCYang @Luka024 Did you miss the many other posts in recent days where we interviewed pro drivers, covered hardcore drag racing, WTCC action, etc. ?
Also - low, bouncing cars have been around for much longer than 15 years
@PCYang @Luka024 Did you miss the many other posts in recent days where we interviewed pro drivers, covered hardcore drag racing, WTCC action, etc. ?
Also - low, bouncing cars have been around for much longer than 15 years
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder 2022 has in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder 2022 has in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder 2022 has in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder 2022 has in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder what 2022 will have in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder what 2022 will have in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder what 2022 will have in store for us...lol
@PCYang @Luka024 Yes sir. Hellaflush is yet another ricey fad...haven't we all learned something 10 years ago. History repeats itself, as proven time and time again. I wonder what 2022 will have in store for us...lol
@Mike Garrett @PCYang @Luka024 Is hard-parking the "car culture at large"? Didn't think so.
@Mike Garrett @PCYang @Luka024 Is hard-parking the "car culture at large"? Didn't think so.
@Mike Garrett @PCYang @Luka024 Is hard-parking the "car culture at large"? Didn't think so.
@Mike Garrett @PCYang @Luka024 Is hard-parking the "car culture at large"? Didn't think so.
@apex_DNA @PCYang @Luka024 So anything where cars aren't blasting around a race track is not car culture to you?
@apex_DNA @PCYang @Luka024 So anything where cars aren't blasting around a race track is not car culture to you?
@apex_DNA @PCYang @Luka024 So anything where cars aren't blasting around a race track is not car culture to you?
@apex_DNA @PCYang @Luka024 So anything where cars aren't blasting around a race track is not car culture to you?
@Mike Garrett @Luka024 Well, let me have another look-see
@Mike Garrett @Luka024 Well, let me have another look-see
@Mike Garrett @Luka024 Well, let me have another look-see
@Mike Garrett @Luka024 Well, let me have another look-see
@MPistol @apex_DNA Never cared for tattoos, as where I came from they were mostly associated with ex-convicts and the army-type, and especially not now, when every hipster is trying to outdo the yakuza. I do understand where you're coming from, but as they say - "correct observation, incorrect conclusion". Today's teens are less into cars than ever. All that this hype is creating is something that will turn more of them off cars in the future anyways. You're comparing the muscle car crowd "laughing" at the import drag racers to hellaflush as something like the original import drag racers were ricers, and we should accept rice as part of the modern car culture. How is rice considered "diverse" is beyond me. Rice has neither helped us learn (hellaflush wouldn't fly today had we learned from the past) or grow...it's more like arrested development of the car culture, and hellaflush is doing nothing to slow it down, quite the opposite, it promotes something similar that happened to us during the first wave of rice, more laws regulating our hobby. Nothing personal, but it seems like you're the one not noticing the "big log" in your own eye.
@MPistol @apex_DNA Never cared for tattoos, as where I came from they were mostly associated with ex-convicts and the army-type, and especially not now, when every hipster is trying to outdo the yakuza. I do understand where you're coming from, but as they say - "correct observation, incorrect conclusion". Today's teens are less into cars than ever. All that this hype is creating is something that will turn more of them off cars in the future anyways. You're comparing the muscle car crowd "laughing" at the import drag racers to hellaflush as something like the original import drag racers were ricers, and we should accept rice as part of the modern car culture. How is rice considered "diverse" is beyond me. Rice has neither helped us learn (hellaflush wouldn't fly today had we learned from the past) or grow...it's more like arrested development of the car culture, and hellaflush is doing nothing to slow it down, quite the opposite, it promotes something similar that happened to us during the first wave of rice, more laws regulating our hobby. Nothing personal, but it seems like you're the one not noticing the "big log" in your own eye.
@MPistol @apex_DNA Never cared for tattoos, as where I came from they were mostly associated with ex-convicts and the army-type, and especially not now, when every hipster is trying to outdo the yakuza. I do understand where you're coming from, but as they say - "correct observation, incorrect conclusion". Today's teens are less into cars than ever. All that this hype is creating is something that will turn more of them off cars in the future anyways. You're comparing the muscle car crowd "laughing" at the import drag racers to hellaflush as something like the original import drag racers were ricers, and we should accept rice as part of the modern car culture. How is rice considered "diverse" is beyond me. Rice has neither helped us learn (hellaflush wouldn't fly today had we learned from the past) or grow...it's more like arrested development of the car culture, and hellaflush is doing nothing to slow it down, quite the opposite, it promotes something similar that happened to us during the first wave of rice, more laws regulating our hobby. Nothing personal, but it seems like you're the one not noticing the "big log" in your own eye.
@MPistol @apex_DNA Never cared for tattoos, as where I came from they were mostly associated with ex-convicts and the army-type, and especially not now, when every hipster is trying to outdo the yakuza. I do understand where you're coming from, but as they say - "correct observation, incorrect conclusion". Today's teens are less into cars than ever. All that this hype is creating is something that will turn more of them off cars in the future anyways. You're comparing the muscle car crowd "laughing" at the import drag racers to hellaflush as something like the original import drag racers were ricers, and we should accept rice as part of the modern car culture. How is rice considered "diverse" is beyond me. Rice has neither helped us learn (hellaflush wouldn't fly today had we learned from the past) or grow...it's more like arrested development of the car culture, and hellaflush is doing nothing to slow it down, quite the opposite, it promotes something similar that happened to us during the first wave of rice, more laws regulating our hobby. Nothing personal, but it seems like you're the one not noticing the "big log" in your own eye.
@d15b2 Those cookies were fatLACED...
@d15b2 Those cookies were fatLACED...
@d15b2 Those cookies were fatLACED...
@d15b2 Those cookies were fatLACED...
@Mike Garrett @PCYang @Luka024 Nothing personal, but you guys run one of the most diverse car culture sites and don't know the difference between rice (which hellaflush is) and style? Thanks for missing the point, I guess.
@PCYang @apex_DNA @Luka024 I couldn't have say it better!
@apex_DNA @RodChong Here Sir:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20733247@N06/
@JDMized @PCYang @apex_DNA @Luka024 Thanks man, that means a lot coming from you. Every time SH runs questionable content i.e rice, I scroll down to the comment section for your commentary, it's like a breath of fresh.
@JDMized @PCYang @apex_DNA @Luka024 Thanks man, that means a lot coming from you. Every time SH runs questionable content i.e rice, I scroll right down to the comment section for your commentary, it's like a breath of fresh air.
@JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 @JDMized @PCYang @apex_DNA @Luka024 Thanks man, that means a lot coming from you. Every time SH runs questionable content i.e rice, I scroll right down to the comment section for your commentary, it's like a breath of fresh air.
@apex_DNA @JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 @JDMized @PCYang @apex_DNA @Luka024
I have to say, I am biased though. I got some beef with Mr. Arcenal for his work ethics and job decision, but to each his own I guess.
What I can't tolerate is the massive amount of drift coverage and slammed cars. Obviously SH wants to gather to those soul-less kids that haven't found an identity yet....so they look up to people like Mark Arcenal.
SH should really focus on venues of motorsports that actually matter because behind those venues there are people that actually do something for this industry, (unlike Mark who sells stickers, license plate frame, and "built" his car using criteria from other tinkers).
@apex_DNA @JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 @JDMized @PCYang @apex_DNA @Luka024 I understand that you guys aren't fans of the HellaFlush scene, stanced cars, Fatlace events or what have you. That's totally fine. Everyone has their own tastes and it's unrealistic to expect everyone to love every single thing we post.
What I don't understand is the reasoning behind you guys constantly attacking the scenes and styles you don't personally like and acting like that's the ONLY thing we spend time covering.
Picture it this way, Speedhunters is like a restaurant . We have a giant menu and serve up a HUGE variety of dishes. It's as if you guys don't like a certain type of food (let's say seafood for example). Instead of enjoying the dozens of other items on the menu, you keep coming back to the seafood dishes for some reason - then you get upset because you don't like how it tastes.
@Mike Garrett @apex_DNA @JDMized @Luka024 I think the blog as a whole is pretty awesome. You guys do good work. I'm just giving you guys a hard time with this particular article. Don't take it too hard...
...But as the old saying goes... "You can eat oranges all your life and no one calls you an orange eater, but you suck cock once and you're a cock sucker"
@JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 Yeah, it's like an RWD fanboy club...but then again, what do you expect, original rice was in demand 10 years ago, so why wouldn't it be different this time around?
@Mike Garrett @JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 Ok, so if SH was around 10 years ago you would then cover the "import scene, riced cars, Nopi events and what have you"? There ARE plenty of things posted on SH that I have little to no interest in, yet I don't have any reason to "attack" them simply because they're not rice. Now picture it the way I see it, if SH was a restaurant, then this stupid fad would be junk food, which comes in a variety of dishes on its own...and is not healthy for an average car enthusiast.
@apex_DNA @Mike @JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 Well, if you consider the cars seen in this particular post "rice" I'm not quite sure what to tell you...
To each their own I guess.
@Mike Garrett @Mike @JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 Not in this particular post per say, just like companies pushing the trend back in 2002 weren't necessarily "rice", but ther herds of their followers were.
@Mike Garrett @Mike @JDMized @PCYang @Luka024 Not in this particular post per say, just like companies pushing the trend back in 2002 weren't necessarily "rice", but the herds of their followers were...lack of responsibility perhaps. They don't check cars at the meets for fake wheels, cracked fenders, and just poor taste.
@apex_DNA You want them to check every car for legit wheels or not? And by not doing so these guys are "rice"? Well, say bye bye to more than half of the people showing because most of everyone is on some sort of replica wheel. I don't know whats more ricey, being an elitest A-hole or having no grounds of calling something rice, but still doing so.
I actually don't mind any of the stickerbombing, blatantly bad fitment or anything like that. As an aftermarket driven culture, we have to start somewhere. So let those kids do what they want, if they don't continue on making the scene more 'ricey' for you then good. But most if not all of these people will grow out of the fad and move on. So while you're out here crying foul on this company, or this scene, everyone else is evolving and moving forward. Cry all you want, you aren't doing anything by posting mindless comments.
The guy is just copying off the RWB shop.
He's riding Nikai's coat tails by allowing RWB to set up shop in close proximity. It's a good marketing move, but people will remember real cars, and show cars are the first forgotten. RWB will still be remembered in 10 years, while people will giggle when you mention Fatlace.