Mike Burroughs’ purposely rusted BMW is the stuff legends are made of. It has the power to elicit a reaction from anyone who comes across it, and that reaction will either be very, very good or very, very bad.
To tell the truth, I was in the ‘put off’ camp with this one. A purposely rusted rat rod BMW? I didn’t give it more than a passing glance. It wasn’t until I saw the rebuilt version at the SEMA Show earlier in the month, met Mike in person and took the time to read up on his build that I realized I had been far too hasty in my dismissal of Rusty Slammington.
Upon reading the build thread I learned that Mike’s E28 started rather innocently as a slammed car built for fun, which infused influential styling and then suffered a series of blows that would make any lesser man give up.
Except Mike didn’t give up. I don’t blame him for hacking the car up after it was hit by a semi truck, but that version just didn’t do it for me. This version, though? This version…
The Group 5 inspiration is clear, and it’s brought the proportions right where they were always meant to be. One foot shorter and two doors less just works so well with the already chopped roof.
Mike and Byron Wilcox squished and stretched the proportions until they were just right, wrapping the scorched BMW’s sheetmetal soul around a scratch-built tube chassis. This is where you can really spend some time studying the work that’s been done. Notice the remnants of the pounded-out flares from the previous version just ahead of the rear wheel.
One of the things I enjoy most about a car in bare metal is seeing all the changes right there in plain sight. None of this is lost under a layer of paint on Rusty Slammington either.
Through all its versions Rusty has worn plenty of custom wheel sets, but these 16×12-inch front and 19×14.5-inch rear Porsche 956 BBS’ might just be the best.
Pushrod suspension uses inboard H&R coilovers, while a high compression, dry-sumped S38 straight six from an E34 M5 has been mounted way, way back in the engine bay.
A beautifully crafted header snakes its way through the tube chassis and out the passenger rocker panel.
We know Mike will give us all the details over on Stanceworks, so I won’t bother going much more in depth.
That’s really not what this story is about. I just wanted to take a minute to congratulate Mike Burroughs on a job very well done. There wasn’t a person at the 2015 SEMA Show who wasn’t talking about this car.
Mike took what was a polarizing build with equal numbers of fans and haters and turned it into something so downright amazing that you’d be hard pressed to find anyone with a bad word to say.
So, from one like-minded journalist and car builder to another, I tip my cap to you Mike. Well done, my friend.
Keith Charvonia
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Ahaha this thing is insane, a race car under a rat-rod!
Funny, I'm ordering the same ATL gas cap for my project.
One stanced fake race car with scene kidz sucking it off.
Answer this: where could it race?
There's something to be said about Rat-Rods. Might be the rough look lets the builder experiment with modifying the car beyond normal limits. Rat-Rods can be pretty hit or miss though, some people take it to far and some people just add patina to their 91' Civics. This is a perfect balance.
If you look for the inside shots of this thing, you will notice that its not even driveable... Bunch of cool stuff thrown together to make a car thats not usable in any way...
what the hell happened to that car...
Malibudha ah yeah thats maybe because its not finished yet mate.
Malibudha What a complete scene crime. Magazines and blogs featuring cars which don't work.
Disgraceful.
Rallyist As long as the roll cage is approved by the governing body of motorsport of where it is racing it could do lots of things. Endurance racing (Here in NZ endurance classes usually only determined by engine capacity and induction and you 'run what ya brung'), Hill climbs (Pikes peak etc), Club racing. The list goes on.
Rallyist Malibudha So you have never enjoyed/want to see a feature of a build in progress on SH, just polished finish products? I think alot of readers would disagree with you.
Cotnyjoe The roll cage isn't the question. It's a space frame. So it can't race in a normal production series, because it hasn't any of its production origins.
Again, where could it race?
Rallyist Why does it need to race? Why conform when it is simply the interpretation of one persons desire. It is art. While some may have different tastes, it doesnt negate the fact that a lot of time, effort and creativity made it what it is today.
alanbowers86 Rallyist If it doesn't race, that makes it a fake race car. Sitting at SEMA?
Or is it just static 4 wheeled art for scene fame? In which case how vain?
Rallyist Cotnyjoe There are thousands of race cars out there that aren't production car based! Again, it could race on any race track in NZ (Pukekohe, Hampton Downs etc), Pikes peak, I could go on but have got any time left for you mate.
Rallyist In case you hadnt noticed, SEMA isnt always about racing or motorsport. I'm sure Rusty has moved under its own power, so its not just static art. Why is it vain to showcase your hard work and dedication, thanking the many sponsors and people who have helped you along the way?
Cotnyjoe Rallyist Pikes Peak! Yeah, it looks ready for that,LOL.
Name a series that the car would actually fit into.
alanbowers86 Rallyist Custom cars become vain when they cross the line and become fake race cars.
Custom car building is fine. Race car folly building is just image - and vain.
Rallyist What car, modified or not, DOESNT take inspiration from racing? I believe everything is connected, so simply by having a few more prominent parts does not necessarily make this more "fake race car" than anything else on the road.
Cotnyjoe Rallyist Malibudha Finish it, then talk about it.
Too make fake builds, featured prematurely. PR splash grabbed so onto the next thing. Scene whores.
alanbowers86 Rallyist Custom cars take inspiration from various sources including race, which is fine. Emphasis: custom cars.
The difference between building a race car and a fake race car is there are rules. It is *obvious* a fake race car isn't ready to race
Is this powered with automatic like everything in need for speed?
That is a cool car. I like when people are able to do something uniqe and it works out.
Rallyist Not to play the ad hominem card, but you are quite clearly a very dense person.
Let me begin:
1. No, the car is not currently in a finished state. It needs a few things here and there. Now, this is not an issue, because obviously the car will not remain in this state indefinitely. This car is sponsored by H&R springs, who of course wanted it displayed at their booth at SEMA. When a sponsor asks you to do something, you do it. To meet the SEMA deadline requires typically a lot of work, and sometimes a car just cannot be finished. This is not indicative of laziness or a desire for 'scene points', it's simply a matter of not having enough time. Unfinished builds at SEMA are hardly a rarity, either. This Mustang, for example, was not finished in time:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/684/22740546477_433527f4d6_o.jpg
Hardly laziness.
2. A car does not have to compete in a sanctioned race series in order to be classified as a race car. And not to go off track, but you are getting overly bogged down in semantics here. It is impressive, regardless of whatever category you personally feel it fits into. Now, back to my point, the ability to compete in a series does not a race car make. For example, the Pagani Zonda R, McLaren P1 GTR, Ferrari FXXK, and numerous kit-car and cottage industry specials are not allowed to compete in sanctioned series, either. Many people build cars just for the purpose of going to track days and turning out a few hot laps. The car is built for purely recreational (in other words, non-competitive) track use. So perhaps it would ease your mind if the car were referred to as a 'track car'.
Regardless, your complaints about this car are ridiculous and troll-ish. It's clear you have your mind made up about this car, and probably have for many years. You are quite obviously grasping at straws in an effort to tear down one man's hard work and dedication. I myself am not the biggest stance person or Mike Burroughs fan, but I at least know when I'm presented with something that is deeply impressive, as this car is. I don't expect you to respond to this with anything intelligent, since you're a troll, so whatever. It is what it is.
@Io Rallyist "A car does not have to compete in a sanctioned race series in order to be classified as a race car"
Oh yes it does. If it's not race legal, it's a custom car, masquerading as a race car, or an honest track car to be used for fun. Kindly take note.
Rallyist Why are you so made about someone how build a car just for fun?
I think Mike did not really build it for any racing, he just build it for fun.
The way is the goal.
He had that burned out shell, of the car witch was a so BIG part of his life still sitting around. So what should he do? a rebuild is Impossible. Why not use it as a hull for a fantasy-racecar?
The angst and entitlement is strong with this one.
@rallyist you sound like a teenage girl complaining about how models don't really. Look like they do in a magazine.
I dig it. Wide body and all.
Rallyist I hope that you fully understand the level of hair-splitting that you have fallen to.
Extremely cool car. I bet it wouldn't be so polarizing if it actually had a nice coat of paint on it, then all the haters would just pass it by.
When i watched the first photos of this build from SEMA my first thought was: "What the fuck had he done!"
But then i remember what he had already done to this car, what happened to the car (the crash, the fire).
Then i was thinking, what else should he done when not building this? Take it to the scrapyard, hanging it at the wall in the Staceworks HQ?
What Mike build now is, in my eyes, the best way of keeping Rusty alive.
@http://www.speedhunters.com/author/keithcharvonia/ I´like how you mentioned the build threat. You´re only really getting this build when you read the threat!
The Road trip articles are also worth reading.
http://www.stanceworks.com/2014/04/the-2009-stanceworks-cross-country-road-trip-part-i/
http://www.stanceworks.com/2014/05/the-2009-stanceworks-cross-country-road-trip-part-ii/
http://www.stanceworks.com/2014/05/the-2009-stanceworks-cross-country-road-trip-part-iii/
Rallyist Ah, rules. Obviously. How could I forget the 10 commandments of the auto customization book of holiness. You must not get out much if you have developed such an understanding of enthusiasm.
@Io Rallyist He should make a new user name - Trolliest
alanbowers86 Rallyist Spend just a moment to consider that people who build actual race cars know fakes when they see them.
What would they think to this car?
alanbowers86 Rallyist @http://www.livefyre.com/profile/4517473/ Simples. The damn thing has so much media push behind it and so many die-hards who can't X-ray it for what it is...
So it deserves a cold reality check.
So what is it? Just art. Masquerading as a race car. If it ever gets raced with any grand purpose I'll eat my hat.
Un-be-FREAKIN'-lievable!!!!
This build gets me every time! It's hard to see in these photos but this crazy guy put the fuel filler on the roof!
I cant explain why but I think it's just too cool!
Congrats!!
Rallyist Im wondering what car you race or have built? ,I have owned many cars and have not ever considered my self a builder or racer,just a car guy. Mike has created a car that means a lot to him and no one else, he has owned this car for a long time, it wasn't build to impress you. You are sounding jealous, Im not sure why?
I drive a 2001 RSK B4 legacy (2 ltr twin turbo JDM petrol), A 2010 Mitsubishi Triton (2.5 ltr turbo desiel) and a 2004 Nissan El Grand Hi way star (3.5 v6 N/A). nothing amazing but I like all of them because the are all different. It wouldn't surprise me if you are 14 and dont drive. Don't knock another mans hard work with out showing your own hard work first.
So it's not the actual car your mad at, it's the coverage the car has gotten? I agree with you it's not a race car but the build is still pretty great.
rusty looking better than ever. been following since it was still recognized as a 5 series but with every super disaster(semi,burn,etc) comes an equal amount of reimagination nad ingenuity i never thought possible with a bmw and i guess bye bye 2jz back to bmw power and oh thoughs itbs hahaha a truely modern take on rat rodding
@Keith Charvonia
Ditto on not feeling the previous version.
Mike did redeem himself in my eyes with that BMW-powered Model A truck.
But this thing here is a first class ticket to racecar heaven haha!
santablob The problem with mass media push & an unwitting audience is some will believe this is a race car, and then start to create more 'race cars'.
Glad you see this is not a race car :thumb:
I've been waiting for this feature. I loved it before and love it now! I'm curious to whether the shortening of the body serves mainly as an aesthetic feature or if it serves the purpose of weigh reduction. I can immagine that a shorter car gets more unstable at high speeds though. Last but not least I figured the build deserved a drawing;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oylpRecm-40
Rallyist lol, you think this car is getting "mass media" coverage? I guess SpeedHunters should start covering Syria and the 2016 elections now that they are considered that. Not hating SH, just trying to show how ridiculous Mr. Rallystar is.
Rallyist I know many builders and drivers alike who either have no problem with this car, or wouldnt care. You seem to be the exception (for some truly unknown reason... maybe just jealousy).
alanbowers86 Rallyist Are you living under a rock? Have you not noticed the skewed levels of media? It was all over Instagram feeds 2 weeks ago, literally in everyone's faces.
Countless others would crave that sort of coverage with their builds I'm sure, but it all polarises around certain individuals.
alanbowers86 Rallyist No jealousy, so kerb the speculation. See my other reply.
lol sorry I don't troll Instagram, nor do I consider it mass media.
Ever since he chopped and rusted this thing I have been fascinated with it. I often pondered how it would return and never would have guessed this but it is so perfect. Being a bit older and remembering group 5 machines as soon as I saw this I thought this is exactly what needed to happen. The only issue I have are the wheels. Would I change them? NO! But I would find a old set that have not been restored and look like they have been in a barn for 20 years. Then it would be perfect.
Rallyist Cotnyjoe I'm not familiar with North American race classes, but here in NZ our GTRNZ series has various classes separated by laptimes. Aside from meeting safety regulations anything goes.
http://www.gtrnz.co.nz/
Rallyist Malibudha scene crime? you're a loser; seriously just pathetic.
I was on a mission to see Rusty in person at SEMA, mostly because of all the hype on IG/social media. It's cool from a fabrication/shock/art point of view. I get the labor, creativity, roots and "against odds" aspects of the build. One thing, and only one thing detracts from the entire car, imho:
Wheels
I know, crazy right? Especially from Mr. Stanceworks himself! I just couldn't get over th =e how ridicullous/clashing the rear wheel setup is compared to the front...and please don't tell me it's a "big 'n' little throwback to hot rods
Step lip fronts with totally weird/large slant lips in back. I. Just. Don't. Get. It.
someone help
@SW1 The size difference is nothing out of the ordinary for the group 5/super silhouette cars that this build is inspired by. The
mismatched lips are from the same era, the centres are the same size
front to rear and the size differnce is made up with larger lips
Inspiring build and one of the most unique creations on the west coast. I'm really not a stance guy but Rusty kills me. Did not see the silhouette inspired work coming, really blew me away.
As far as people hating....y'all sound like the guys that hated on George Barris' creations when he started. No this car will not see a track and it doesn't need to. No it's not what I'd do. But damn is it ever left-field and different from any other custom vehicle out there.
Finish it and then get back to me.
Yet to see whether it's all for show or it'll actually work
The base is there I guess, and most of the engineering is rad, but the rest of it just seems a bit rushed
see: that photo of the tail lights where the panels are just tack welded
@SW1 I feel you man. The size difference is just too much for me
I'm not sure this car will ever be finished. It's in a content state of change. Also I think it's meant to look a bit unfinished
See, a vehicle like this makes me want to spend a month in a junkyard building something like this. I love this car.
The asymmetrical Scrapyard Rod aesthetic really appeals to me. Don't ask why - I don't even know.
Rallyist Okay, I think that's enough trolling for now. Despite whether Rusty could ever 'race' or not, I think you're completely missing the point. The bond between this particular machine and its owner is something quite special. This build isn't about pushing boundaries in 'the scene' - it's far more personal than that. If you can't appreciate all of the hard work that's gone into this and it isn't something that you're interested in, please move on.
Well, obviously this is exclusively built for track recreational, there no indication to compete in approved race series. Heck, you wouldn't start with the drage coeffiecent of a house if you want to compete in 2015, and so much sheet metal involved.
Respect the build, and I love it as a recreational toy.
He needs to make a metal front bumper. Looks cool anyway!
You got it all wrong... This thing will propably never be driveable with the motor 20cm from driver. Do I think its a work of art? Yes... But a car thats not driveable cant be anything else and I dont get why its in speedhunters.
BryanMcLarenBulmer Maybe it's just for publicity and never needs to turn a wheel? :lightbulbmoment:
abezzegh87 yah
iDraw Awesome
Should be called Rusty Trans-Amington from now on
Series? Why does it have to race in a series. Track days anywhere. Many hill climb events have unlimited class. I fact many race series have unlimited classes. Plus if you had seen what the car had been and gone through you'd understand the space frame. It was in a huge fire and burnt down. This car is perfect.
I just spent some time going through the build thread. Wow. The car has totally come a long way. I'd like to see more of how it got here now. Builds like this make me happy. It's not perfect but in some way it really is. I could see myself driving the snot out of it.
I see why you like this car Keith.
Ice Age Which movie car is that?
i seen that movie a few years back.
i could get into this version..finally has the right proportions...I know itd be a different car with finished body work, but its to the point I think I would
This car is awesome, definitely deserves the feature. The tack welds just kill me though. I feel like everything on the exterior will vibrate apart when driven long enough.
....halfway to Mad Max. And that's a good thing
What was the purpose of this car being at SEMA? Lets display a half put together car at the worlds biggest part Manufacturer event show. I could understand at a local event displaying a project car. But at SEMA? Its not what you know, its who you know lol. I love the build quality and him sticking with the concept, just feel that if its at SEMA as a display car, it should run.
Noooo! I appreciate a lot of work has gone into this but I just can't help but cringe harder with every photo. Maybe my sense of taste is terrible but this just doesn't do it for me...
JustinHPG Perhaps it should run, but realistically if it gets people talking, it's a grade A advertising piece for your components at what is essentially the worlds largest car parts trade show, viral adverts are the best kind.
Malibudha speedhunters is about the love of cars, not just driving cars. This man is showing his skill in fabrication and passion for that particular car, what is speedhunters about? People who love their cars? Bingo.
BryanMcLarenBulmer this^
@jakwhite yes, even bad plublicity is still plublicity. But SEMA, really.
Rallyist Malibudha I'd love to see either of you hand build a tube frame chassis with one other guy, in your garage, after work and on weekends, all in a ~15 month time frame. Internet warriors like you people ruin all aspects of modern car culture.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showpost.php?p=4521822&postcount=139
James1010 Just posting the Capri earns you a "like" from me.
JustinHPG Pretty sure that H&R didn't mind paying for the space
I Prefer way more this build, you should check out it's history from the begging, than all those Wranglers in 20s,30,40" wheels and low profile tires.. You can see a lot of good performance parts in the build, i guess that's the main point of SEMA.
I like it, and I'll like it even more if it gets driven in anger around a track often. I hope this wasn't put together just for the internet/advertisers/likes/sponsors and will actually see track time, because if it doesn't, my like for it will dwindle. Very cool car and great build!
abezzegh87 Onecton It's more or less what remained of the body shell. Not much else.
Rallyist Then that's uncool IMO. Don't build a full race car just for shows. However I'm sure it will get tracked.
BryanMcLarenBulmer That's just a massive cop out for not finishing a project.
I hope it gets properly finished and done, because otherwise it's just a waste and the owner is a total poser.
econti BryanMcLarenBulmer Totally agree with you.
Masterwana Ice Age Knight Rider 2010.
I love everything but the exterior. But, nothing some bodywork and a paint job couldn't improve. There's such great fabrication work, and then this complete let-down of a trendy exterior. I know that's exactly the reaction I'm supposed to have, but that doesn't mean it somehow succeeds at something. Paint it, and it will become a winner.
@Fabrik8 It's called rusty slammington... painting is the worst idea possible.
Luis Ramos JustinHPG I don't think Justin realizes a large number of cars at SEMA (and elsewhere) do not run. Making that perceived issue as the premise for one's dislike is ignorance on parade.
Rusty has definitely been upgraded. I love this new iteration.
Just make sure you're current on your tetanus shots.
econti The reason the Group 5 cars ran the larger dia rears was they were limited to "only" 15" wide tyres, Norbert Singer from Porsche came up with the idea of running a dramatically larger diameter to increase the contact patch size whilst remaining within the rules (this was far from the only loophole he found in the rules incidentally) and the other manufacturers quickly copied.
Personally I think any other combination of wheel sizes would've looked out of place on a car so clearly inspired by the group 5 racers.
Porsche continued using staggered diameter wheels on the 956 in high downforce configuration (low drag versions used smaller rears so the bodywork could be kept flat).
Love both the story behind this, and what it has become.
Its a shame some might find the efame and general trendyness offputting; as it unfairly takes away from the serious work, creativity, and attention to detail in it all.
As always, keen to see how this continues to evolve!
I can never get enough of this car. As a hardcore BMW fan and enthusiast who can appreciate hard work, this is very close to the holy grail of cars for me. I really hope I'll get to see it in person one day but for now this will do. Thanks for the great article Keith!
that is way cool
Rusty is a legend. Absolutely amazing car that has been transformed into an insane build. Mike is an awesome guy and all his builds have been top notch. This car is so badass.
It's unique, cool and has a shitload of character, who gives a f*#k if it's an actual race car. I don't know why I like it, It's definitely not a style build I normally would like, but it is badass and it's inspiring automotive art.
this is a f...... piece of art!
Rallyist Holy crap dude. You need to just log off already. I pretty much developed a brain tumor reading your "arguments" if that's what you could call them. Like mentioned above, you must really be dense to not understand what everyone here is spelling out for you. Its quite pathetic actually.
Can we PLEASE have a way to ban Rallyist from comments? lol I'm sure 99% of the people here are tired of his somewhat nonsensical comments. Not only that, but straight up bashing a car that is incomplete. As stated previously, I'd assume he is straight up jealous of this beautiful build/project.
CharlesChris15 Rallyist You can't silence opinion else the world would be boring, or run by dictators. Many have made errors by treading that path.
I've stopped posting btw, as I've made my point several times, and am now watching others' opinions with interest, because they vary from pro-static art to anti-incomplete cars.
Also >>never<< assume
@Rallyist
You complain about how this isn't a "race car," but what about almost every other build at SEMA, or on the streets?
Right now many people are running massive over fenders, massively wide wheels, and track quality suspension, yet non of these builds will EVER see a track.
The things you point out about why you think this car is a phony, means you hate basically every build.
From what i read, all the high quality track inspired cars with roll cages, quick release wheels, race seats, huge turbos, and fully build motors are basically all pointless. Nevermind the hundreds, if not thousands of man hours and dollars that go into these builds.
You don't have to like this build, our even respect the dedication or the vision, but you also don't have to bash the car repeatedly for no good reason.
On the other hand, I find it intriguing.
love this car! looked sick before and looks even better now!!
It always amazes me to see how far this project has come. I still remember the fledgling days of StanceWorks, and the beginnings of Rusty Slammington haha-- back when Burroughs was a "regular joe" at Bimmerforums... There was a time when all Rusty had to its fame was a set of nice, green-faced BBS RS wheels, and a lowered suspension... This build speaks to those who appreciate the dedication it takes to make something truly unique, and well-crafted. If it doesn't resonate with you personally, at least have the decency to show some respect. I can assure you, this isn't your run-of-the-mill project.
ITT
JustinHPG
Been back to check this thing out about 8 times now.
Lots of the things people have a problem with are discussed in the build thread, which is linked in the article.
Sheet metal work is a little amatueur, but its par for the course.
It's a tuner car, built mostly (i'm guessing) for the fun of building cars. There doesn't need to be any other reason.
Sounds like they have sponsorship for the build now, judging by some of the parts used, looks like H&R wrote them a decent little cheque. Pretty much a dream come true.
My favorite car of the whole show. Loved seeing this in person and speaking with Mike personally.
BOSS
Rusty brings such inspiration. Not sure what's next for this beast. Maybe a 4x4 chassis and beadlocks?
THis the simply awesome a true work of Art
fake patina is stupid....
Gianluca FairladyZ at least it is 'till you reach puberty and your nuts drop.
cutterjones13 It's not fake. Either you're trolling real hard or you seriously don't know the origin of this particular iteration of the car.
spdcrzy cutterjones13 thats not honest patina, faked and the paint details are fresh and just look old.
cutterjones13 spdcrzy The level of retard is great in this one!
Rallyist CharlesChris15 Another one showing a high level of retard! Jealousy isnt a basis for opinion. Just because you can't afford to do this doesnt mean your bashing will get you any closer. Sorry to see your life sucks outside of a computer screen and keyboard.
@Fabrik8 Is this your car? No. Should he paint it to be a winner? No. Is he just following a tread? No.
No person or thing will ever be unique. Look in the mirror, see the closes you where? Stop being trendy! Your just part of the same stereotype your bashing. Trends are an ever evolving creature, and without people like mike taking a trend and pushing it further, we all would just be communists. Sit back, shut up and enjoy what we "Car Enthusiasts" call the Evolution of Creativity and Freedom!
mrtropicana Rallyist CharlesChris15 Once again NEVER assume. I'm not jealous of this car one bit. What I DON'T like is what it pretends to be and draws large quantities of others through heavily pushed media into thinking it is.
This very accurately sums up THE problem: https://www.facebook.com/1440756352887187/photos/a.1440757259553763.1073741828.1440756352887187/1499515457011276/?type=3
Aka the growing culture of false race cars. Instafame, without substance behind it.
Notice that I have not had to stoop to a level of personal insults.
Apart from really feeling like chromed BBS 19" rims are super out of place, this is a very thorough and interesting build. Extra kudos for the positive transformation out of a very negative wreck.
cutterjones13 spdcrzy The patina if the rust is real but only the decals that are not. The car got into a fire and you still expect the car to bear the patina before it was set ablaze??
AprilexHK cutterjones13 spdcrzy mrtropicana I think we're all using different definitions of patina here...
You give a rat rod bmw a passing glance, but you drive an FRS?
What else do you put on a gp5 car besides 19" bbs?
I guess it's more the chromed part of that observation that doesn't sit right. Looks too clean on a build that's so roughshod. Maybe that's the contrast they were going for, just saying if they were roughed up or rattle canned it'd look more at home.
IRONWOLF RD that's the point, it becomes a beautiful contrast.
the car was very good
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