I’d love to be coming to you this month with a heap of mega updates, but the reality is, I’m not. At some stage between last month’s introduction to Project GTI and sitting down to write this second instalment, I had a conscious moment that I was going about things in the completely wrong manner.
I fell into a trap that I feel a lot of us are guilty of; allowing others to make decisions for us, or basing our decisions on others’ experiences or preferences.
The internet is a huge resource and I can’t imagine how our car culture world would look without it. It’s so easy to find information or to seek inspiration from someone else’s project on the other side of the world. It’s a wonderful thing, but it does have its dangers too. For every piece of valuable and helpful information, I find that you often have to wade through 10 pages of rubbish to reach it. Anonymity plays a dangerous role as well, as people often like to pretend they know more than they actually do and flood the internet with inaccurate information. I’ve never really understood that, trying to garner e-fame, but that’s a discussion for another day…
When this moment of realisation occurred, I was halfway through an argument on some forum. I can’t remember the specifics, but it was clear that neither party was going to back down, both preferring that being right was more important than figuring out the facts of the matter.
It got me thinking about how I interpret a lot of the information I find online. Is this information even relative to me or how I intend to use my car?
I’m almost embarrassed to say that this is a more familiar sight to me than my favourite roads. Sitting in traffic, staring at the brake lights of the cars in front. But then again, I knew this when I bought my GTI just under three months ago. It was part of the appeal that I could own a car that does all of the things – and do them well.
I’m the sort who likes to track my fuel consumption as much as I enjoy planning my next set of modifications. I get as much enjoyment from cleaning and detailing my car as I do working on it and performing regular maintenance. I’m very particular about things and I like things done in a certain way. You definitely won’t find any warning lights on my dashboard, I don’t think I could sleep if there were.
Still, part of me felt guilty that I wasn’t exploiting the GTI’s potential or the fact that I had yet to take the time to just go for an aimless drive somewhere. This all had to change.
And quickly.
But First, A Small Update
Last month, I spoke briefly about removing some of the restrictions on the intake side of the 2.0-litre turbocharged EA888 engine. Some people reckon that there are huge gains to be found, while others will tell you that there’s no difference between the stock intake and an aftermarket one. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
I had a few bits and pieces sitting in my online basket with the folks at AwesomeGTI in the UK for a while as I waited for a couple of payments for work to come through. No sooner had the money landed in my bank account, it had gone back out again and a parcel arrived from the UK a couple of days later. The big expense was an APR Carbonio Stage One intake. More on that in a second.
With the stock air box removed, you can see how pointlessly restrictive it is. Air must flow in, go left and down into the bottom of the filter housing before going back up through the filter itself and out one side of the box to the MAF.
The Carbonio is more of a ‘route one’ sort of affair. It keeps the MAF in the same location, where some intake systems relocate it. Again, I’ve read conflicting reports about relocating the MAF; some say it makes no difference, others say the air is more turbulent after the right-angled bend.
I would say that one of the downsides to a Golf GTI is that they’re probably a little bit too good at being subtle. There’s no real sense of occasion when you get on the power. Now, I didn’t want anything that sounded too loud or over the top, so one of the reasons the Carbonio appealed to me was its enclosed nature. As opposed to running an open filter, the closed system does add some induction noise without feeling intrusive or irritating. If I leave my window down an inch, I can hear the turbocharger sucking and fluttering, but with the window closed it pretty much all goes away. A perfect compromise.
I chose not to purchase the secondary part of the air intake, as I couldn’t really justify paying so much for questionable gains. From reading around, most of these secondary pieces say they provide better air flow and that their carbon construction acts as an improved heat barrier for the intake from engine bay temperatures. For €30 (US$34), I picked up a 15ft roll of DEI Reflect-a-Gold on Amazon, thinking I could add at least one of those alleged benefits for a fraction of the price.
Reflect-A-Gold is a little bit tricky to work with, but with the rear intake pipe removed I was able to get a clean-ish install. I learned that it does not like corners very much, so the flexible elbow was left alone for the time being.
We had some left over, which my mate Flip decided would look great on the exposed painted area on the bulkhead. Before I had time to object, there was no more Reflect-a-Golf left, but my engine bay was much more bling. Does it have any benefit? Time will tell, but I do know that previously I couldn’t touch the back of the intake and now I can hold it comfortably after a drive. Will that translate into a performance benefit? Maybe a very small one.
Also in the same package, were some OE Audi R8 coils. I’m still on the stock tune, but the factory GTI coils are known to be a weak point at higher RPMs once the car is re-mapped. They weren’t all that expensive (I think it was around €120 (US$135) for all four) and are a solid preventative modification.
I also picked up some black coolant and washer bottle caps, along with an OE Porsche 911 oil cap. Because it’s probably as close to a Porsche 911 that I’ll ever get. It also makes me laugh how much stuff is interchangeable amongst the VW Group cars. That’s pretty much the front side of the engine addressed, I think a turbo-back exhaust system will be next followed by a re-map to allow the EA888 to live up to its potential.
It was only after these parts were installed that I had my moment of realisation.
A Grey Day In Dublin
So, let’s get back to my original train of thought in the first chapter. There’s a place I like to go from time to time which overlooks the city of Dublin. It’s quiet, not many people know about it and it’s a great place to take a breath and just get away from the world for a short time.
It’s hardly the most appealing Dublin has ever looked, but from up here on this typically grey day, it still looked great to me. The reason I was here is because I was quite simply at a loose end on this day. I had a last minute cancellation so found myself with nothing better to do than drive around with no particular destination in mind.
I started to think a lot about how I’m going to progress with Project GTI, but how I’m at a crossroads. I still really didn’t know what the car needed or what I wanted from it. I’d been putting off going for that first decent drive for a while, but I wasn’t sure why. Maybe I was scared that I was going to feel let down? What if I had bought the wrong car?
Eventually I ran out of excuses and had to find out one way or the other. I started the car, pulled the DSG lever back and slowly made my way up the mountain…
With the roads being a mix of wet and dry in places, I decided to take it easy enough climbing into the mountains. I don’t believe in taking chances or unnecessary risks on the public road, especially ones as narrow as ours can be in places (as you’ll see when I decide to drop a wheel off the road to make room for an incoming BMW). This was the first of several runs over and back a particular section.
It just gave me the time and opportunity to see how the car reacts under varying circumstances and varied road types too, without going beyond either my own or the car’s limit.
After a couple of runs, I pulled over to catch my thoughts and grab some shots for this story.
While I wasn’t pushing all that hard, I was surprised by the traction offered by the Kumho KU39s, particularly under the damp and greasy patches under the trees. I added the KU39s shortly after purchase as a stop-gap to replace the shockingly poor tyres that were on it when I bought it. So far, they’ve given me no reason to complain.
The intake and other small modifications that I’ve wrote about above? Honestly, I’d be lying if I said that I could feel any major difference in the performance of the car. However, I knew this as these are really just parts that have been put in place in advance of having the car re-mapped. It’ll be only after the car is mapped that these parts will – hopefully – make their advantages over stock known. In saying that, the intake does add that little bit of sound that the car was badly missing.
I don’t think the locals were bothered, mind you.
On the road, the XDS differential is currently fine for what I want from the car. It’ll be interesting to see how it copes with the planned power bump in the near future, or to see if it all comes undone when I get it out on track. An LSD is an option, but the labour and associated cost of having it installed in the DSG gearbox might push it beyond my reach. I would likely have to go to the UK to have it fitted too, further driving up the expense. We’ll see on that one.
Probably the aspect of the car that I’m least impressed with is the stock suspension – it feels too harsh on rough surfaces but too soft through corners. Over-sprung and under-damped perhaps? It feels much less composed over this section than my BMW E90 used to, but I’m not sure I want to go down the coil-over route again.
I like my cars low, but that introduces countless issues when using them on Irish roads. The last thing I want to do with this car is reduce its versatility or self impose restrictions on how it can be used. By the time I sold my E90, I was more concerned about smashing the carbon front splitter on the road than actually driving and enjoying it. I don’t want to repeat that mistake.
This day of exploration was exactly what I needed to point me in the right direction of where I want to go with Project GTI. It reinforced some of the ideas I have in my mind, but also turned others completely on their head. The main difference now is that it’s going to go in my direction.
More next month, thanks for reading.
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i swear i was thinking exactly that just yesterday! i always said this to people that moved to a new house: "don´t buy everything now, live there for a while, feel the place and how you use the space." and i remembered it while thinking of a future new car, thinking that i should enjoy it and modify it over time, to feel it and keep the novelty going, instead of trying to do everything at once.
and you´re spot on with the choices you make: research, exchange ideas (you might get a good one) but in the end it is the car that YOU drive everyday, so it has to please YOU. i already have my not so popular ideas that i have to stand up to, because it´s not a show car.
i always wanted air suspension for the same reasons you have and i´m hopeful for this new stuff that is available. there´s a good series of articles about that around here, you know?
Oh no Paddy. Not you on air as well
Oh no Paddy. Not you on air as well
A good project GTI would be modding and styling a true Gti, like the Peugeot 205 Gti or the Golf I Gti. A good old hatch would make it perfect
I wish my golf would accelerate like that in the damp without wheel spinning, mk2 20v's are funny creatures.
I wish my golf would accelerate like that in the damp without wheel spinning, mk2 20v's are funny creatures.
Modern golfs are true GTIs no matter what your definition of "truth" is.
Modern golfs are true GTIs no matter what your definition of "truth" is.
danielbelvino Thanks, Daniel.
I haven't committed to anything, but air definitely seems like a logical choice.
danielbelvino Thanks, Daniel.
I haven't committed to anything, but air definitely seems like a logical choice.
mrwicksy There's nothing concrete yet, but I'm certainly leaning towards air. If it happens, it's going to become a rim-poking stance car. I'm more interested in the performance aspect of air.
FranciscoSerrao Yeah, I'm not running a 30 year old car as my daily driver. Would like a MKI GTI mind you.
JakWhite It requires a delicate touch, but I'm definitely not having any regular or major traction issues so far.
JakWhite Also, where can I see more of your car?
How did you find out that R8 coils will work in your GTi? When I look at the ones my store sells they are different part numbers. Now the 09 R8 doesn't fit my GLi, but the GLi coils will fit a 12 R8 with both the V8 and V10.
rag_nb Had researched beforehand, but wasn't sure on part numbers either at the time. Double checked with the sales guys and they confirmed they were a direct fit. Part number on the coils that worked for me were: 06E905115E
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also, Car Audio Security's Stance Pack (which was basically Air Suspension and a set of afforementioned wheels) was something of a nadir. It summed up for me, in one fell swoop, what the scene has become.
Well this is a relief.
It'll be interesting to see what air does to the ride and handling - reduced harshness is a common comment from owners I know, but from what I gather it's not always a good thing from a handling perspective, depending on the kits.
Oh and please don't gloss over any reliability issues you may have. It's true in many fields of course, as people are rarely willing to admit they've ballsed up, but something I've noticed from being on the periphery of the VW Scene is that people tend to self-justify. So, if they have problems with their air system (be that installation, application, or the product itself), it's not something they complain much about and certainly don't write about on Social Media so the hype behind it is undimmed. It's only something you hear whispered about ("oh so-and-so's bag went on the M1" "such-and-such isn't here because his imported expensive split rim wheels that begin with R cracked on the motorway on the way down" and so on) so it would be nice to know that if your air is a b*stard, you tell us
I don't ask for much, do I? haha
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also, Car Audio Security's Stance Pack (which was basically Air Suspension and a set of afforementioned wheels) was something of a nadir. It summed up for me, in one fell swoop, what the scene has become.
Well this is a relief.
It'll be interesting to see what air does to the ride and handling - reduced harshness is a common comment from owners I know, but from what I gather it's not always a good thing from a handling perspective, depending on the kits.
Oh and please don't gloss over any reliability issues you may have. It's true in many fields of course, as people are rarely willing to admit they've ballsed up, but something I've noticed from being on the periphery of the VW Scene is that people tend to self-justify. So, if they have problems with their air system (be that installation, application, or the product itself), it's not something they complain much about and certainly don't write about on Social Media so the hype behind it is undimmed. It's only something you hear whispered about ("oh so-and-so's bag went on the M1" "such-and-such isn't here because his imported expensive split rim wheels that begin with R cracked on the motorway on the way down" and so on) so it would be nice to know that if your air is a b*stard, you tell us
I don't ask for much, do I? haha
Paddy McGrath rag_nb I'll have to ask the parts guys tomorrow when I get some sort of fuse recall done. I've been getting the itch to start modded my car but wasn't sure where to start and with my work discount this seems to be a good area to start. Thanks!
Paddy McGrath rag_nb I'll have to ask the parts guys tomorrow when I get some sort of fuse recall done. I've been getting the itch to start modded my car but wasn't sure where to start and with my work discount this seems to be a good area to start. Thanks!
mrwicksy Paddy McGrath Shit, I clearly forgot a 'not' in that last comment. It's NOT going to become a rim-poking stance car. As much as I enjoy aggressive fitment, it's not for my car. But I think you got that.
A lot of the issues I've read about with people on air have generally been down to poor or improper installation. I'm lucky that I have a couple of mates I can pester and who know their stuff who can help me out if I go on air. We also have a great relationship with Air Lift through Speedhunters so I feel like I'm in good hands with that regard.
But if I balls something up, I'll be the first to throw my hand up and say I fucked up!
I've just purchased a roll of gold for my MK5 GTi, mainly because it looks bad ass. This is the first time I've read a feature word for word in a long time, thanks for this Mr McGrath. I'll be watching this space!
JonnyFez At least someone made it through to the end!
rag_nb Paddy McGrath VWs are known for coil failure and this seems like a sensible and logical upgrade to perform before you find yourself running on three cylinders.
Paddy McGrath rag_nb Can't say that I knew that. I've only had the car since the end of June with 102K on it from a local dealership so I'll probably check the plugs when I do the coils. I can get that OE number directly from my warehouse for under $80 for all four. Did you upgrade the plugs as well or did I miss that in a previous post?
rag_nb Paddy McGrath Plugs were changed before purchase, but I really should upgrade them too. That's a cheap price!
Paddy McGrath rag_nb I'll probably have my mechanic look at them when we look at why the secondary air pump is throwing a low voltage code. That's one of the perks of working at a large wholesale parts store lol.
here's an idea nobody usually has.......... step down in rim diameter, and use a tire with a taller sidewall!!!! Then tell me how the car handles after that. I've increased the sidewall height on the last two cars I've owned, and both cars, a Mazdaspeed 6 and a TDI Cup Jetta respectively have reaped the benefits. Both cars, in stock form, with stock tires were annoying over cracks in the pavement or abrupt changes in road surface. In both instances I went from a 40 series tire to a 45 series tire and it literally is a world of difference. In each instance, I increased the width of tire. Kumho's? Really? Sure they seem great for a while, but when they are wearing, they disintegrate! They start cupping (typically in my experience) so I've written off the brand. It's Continental for me for the past 6 years and between the DW and DWS, I can't imagine leaving this brand. 235/45/17 on the Jetta right now (was 225/40/18 stock - 18x7.5 I think), now 17x9 wheels - yep they fit - AND I haven't rolled a single thing yet - sure they rub sometimes, but it takes a harsh bump to do it, or a backseat with 3 people across to do it all night. VWR coilovers, springs on the highest setting, yet still lower than stock. I guess this would be an internet opinion if I wasn't living it............ LOL
here's an idea nobody usually has.......... step down in rim diameter, and use a tire with a taller sidewall!!!! Then tell me how the car handles after that. I've increased the sidewall height on the last two cars I've owned, and both cars, a Mazdaspeed 6 and a TDI Cup Jetta respectively have reaped the benefits. Both cars, in stock form, with stock tires were annoying over cracks in the pavement or abrupt changes in road surface. In both instances I went from a 40 series tire to a 45 series tire and it literally is a world of difference. In each instance, I increased the width of tire. Kumho's? Really? Sure they seem great for a while, but when they are wearing, they disintegrate! They start cupping (typically in my experience) so I've written off the brand. It's Continental for me for the past 6 years and between the DW and DWS, I can't imagine leaving this brand. 235/45/17 on the Jetta right now (was 225/40/18 stock - 18x7.5 I think), now 17x9 wheels - yep they fit - AND I haven't rolled a single thing yet - sure they rub sometimes, but it takes a harsh bump to do it, or a backseat with 3 people across to do it all night. VWR coilovers, springs on the highest setting, yet still lower than stock. I guess this would be an internet opinion if I wasn't living it............ LOL
MPistol Agree with that....
Stock wheels are MK6s(well VAG cars in general) are boat anchors in terms of weight also. I used to autoX mine on 255/40/17s on 17x8s that weighs probably half as much as the factory wheels and with tires they are about 15 lb less per corner.
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MPistol I was thinking of going to a 17" wheel, but I think the MK6 looks under-wheeled at that point. I'm also looking down the line at upgrading the brakes and 17" wheels will restrict my choices.
I could maybe run a 235/40 or 245/40 on 18s which would put a little bit more rubber between the me and the road, but I'd have to roll my arches as I couldn't tolerate rubbing. Was looking at Michelin Pilot Sports, but again we'll have to see.
racingmaniac MPistol Can you try uploading the photo you're trying to share? Wheels are definitely on the agenda, not a fan of the stock wheels either in design, weight or finish.
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Under wheeled.... have a look @skawars on Instagram for a vague idea, he's just fitted some 17" Enkei RPF1s with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetrics on his Mk5 GTi and it doesn't look so bad. MPistol is right about them being boat anchors though, the stock wheels. Something like 18kgs a corner, when forged Rotiform VCEs are apparently 12kg in an 18" flavour. He's also right about downsizing. Having driven the afforementioned Golf on both 17s and 18s, sizing down to the 17" Enkeis has made a hell of a difference to the ride with no other changes to speak of. I'm a bit bored of the 17" BBS with a 215/45 on my Caddy because they've been on it for 6 years but I can't decide what to put on and fear ruining the ride if I go big, even on KW's finest. Looking forward to seeing where you go with it though Paddy McGrath, you seem in the right hands
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Under wheeled.... have a look @skawars on Instagram for a vague idea, he's just fitted some 17" Enkei RPF1s with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetrics on his Mk5 GTi and it doesn't look so bad. MPistol is right about them being boat anchors though, the stock wheels. Something like 18kgs a corner, when forged Rotiform VCEs are apparently 12kg in an 18" flavour. He's also right about downsizing. Having driven the afforementioned Golf on both 17s and 18s, sizing down to the 17" Enkeis has made a hell of a difference to the ride with no other changes to speak of. I'm a bit bored of the 17" BBS with a 215/45 on my Caddy because they've been on it for 6 years but I can't decide what to put on and fear ruining the ride if I go big, even on KW's finest. Looking forward to seeing where you go with it though Paddy McGrath, you seem in the right hands
mrwicksy Paddy McGrath MPistol Thanks for the further feedback. Speaking of RPF1s, how good does this look?
mrwicksy Paddy McGrath MPistol Thanks for the further feedback. Speaking of RPF1s, how good does this look?
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That's bloody lovely. Tough as nails, especially love the tyres as well as the wheel choice - square shoulders with plenty of meat. I also happen to love this - who knows where I found it, probably an image search on the wheel model (because I once knew what model BBS they are. My mind...)
" Some people reckon that there are huge gains to be found, while others will tell you that there’s no difference between the stock intake and an aftermarket one. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle"
So why not do a before and after dyno?!
@Beany Because I couldn't be arsed paying for two dyno runs on stock software.
Go with air Paddy. It almost seems natural on a GTI and you can get low and enjoy the ride quality.
takahashitothetop I wouldn't say it's natural, but it does seem like logical progression. It's a shame that most - if not all - MKVIs on air seem to be more interested in running six degrees of negative camber on the rear to tuck 10j rims.
Paddy McGrath MPistol the 17's look fine, IF the sidewall swallows the gap - I probably should upload a photo of how they sit on my car now, but I don't have one available. In my opinion, I adore the look. I just like a chunky tire, as opposed to thin sidewalls. My tires are slightly stretched, but slightly so they tuck into the fender. Under full compression, they do rub a little, but nothing crazy, not enough to make more than a hot spot on the sidewall. I've got a roller ready but I haven't done anything yet. The wheels I have on the car are 17x9 RPF1's. And yes, they were redrilled from 5x114.3 to 5x112 - probably not the best idea, but I was committed to it. Even with the fatter tire, they are lighter than stock - I haven't used a scale to determine this, I only picked each up to confirm, so I can't say a direct weight savings
Paddy McGrath mrwicksy MPistol that's about what my Jetta looks like - although these look to be 18's. Sure there could compromises in brake options, but I'm pretty sure the Porsche Cayenne 17z calipers fit under 17's - I haven't done this myself yet, but stempted
MPistol Paddy McGrath mrwicksy I'm 'almost' sure that black MK6 was on 17s, will double check. Yup, Cayenne 17z will fit under 17" wheels.
MPistol Paddy McGrath Also a fan of a meatier tyre setup, I'm over the hardship of running super low profile tyres. I don't think that's too extreme of a re-drill, although adapters or new modified hubs would have been better. Still, better than running knock-offs.
Paddy McGrath racingmaniac MPistol
Not sure how on here...
http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/image/151574284/original.jpg
the car was not lowered at all because it was prep for specific class in SCCA.
racingmaniac Paddy McGrath MPistol CE28s? Really coming around to 17s now...
Paddy McGrath racingmaniac MPistol
Yep CE28N, A slight drop on coilovers(which might hurt clearance to the 255s...) would look quite good I think. Like I said mine was sorta prepped to a purpose so I am limited to what I can and cannot do. I like 17s because light, tires are cheaper, and road here sucks so doing it this way also protects the wheel.
Paddy McGrath racingmaniac MPistol
Yep CE28N, A slight drop on coilovers(which might hurt clearance to the 255s...) would look quite good I think. Like I said mine was sorta prepped to a purpose so I am limited to what I can and cannot do. I like 17s because light, tires are cheaper, and road here sucks so doing it this way also protects the wheel.
Really looking forward to following where you go with this; all I can add is I'm glad you're keeping it performance oriented as I feel that's what the GTi (and R) versions should be about. As you're aiming to keep the usability and retain it's performance ability it'll be really interesting to see what decision you make about the suspension and see the results of your choice. Planning to track it at all to really test the upgrades as you go along...?!
Really looking forward to following where you go with this; all I can add is I'm glad you're keeping it performance oriented as I feel that's what the GTi (and R) versions should be about. As you're aiming to keep the usability and retain it's performance ability it'll be really interesting to see what decision you make about the suspension and see the results of your choice. Planning to track it at all to really test the upgrades as you go along...?!
ChrisBurnham Yeah, I'll hopefully get it out on track within the next month or two. Would like to get some tuition too, as it's probably the best way of making the car faster.
ChrisBurnham Yeah, I'll hopefully get it out on track within the next month or two. Would like to get some tuition too, as it's probably the best way of making the car faster.
I enjoyed that video, Paddy! I've made a trip from Cork and drove that road a while back! Although my experience was less enjoyable, as I might have lost a few fillings!
What do you think about staggering the wheels? Say 8j front, 7j rear? There was a mkV knocking about on the net, looking pretty purpoiseful.
I really love following this stuff Paddy! Always did like your project posts on the BMW and I'll enjoy following this jouney as well. Keep it up!
I particularly like the preventative maintenance changes. I'm not interested in big numbers for my car but would like to fix any known points of failure.
Thanks for the ideas
I sympathize for VW drivers in the US. The parts seem to be so expensive.
I like your thinking about bigger profile. Personally I find the feedback through the wheel is worth a harsher bump . Wheel feedback with air might suck, dunno.
It does have heaps of body roll but it weights up so nicely when tipping into a corner that Id be worried about changing it.
I have tried Michelin which has great grip wet and dry. Noisier than Contis though.
Seriously, this is what is left of the speedhunters spirit? Quotes like "I’m the sort who likes to track my fuel consumption" and "I’m not sure I want to go down the coil-over route". Every editor is buying new cars becase they dont want to hear the turbo noise or be to uncomfortable on long trips. When you write about your own "projects" its mostly naming the brands or shops mounting stuff of the cars, and almost never doing anything yourselves. Sure this is mostly going to be consider hating, but man, just get out there and feel the pain of beeing a true enthusiast like the ones you shoot and write storys about, just be somewhat uncomfortable with the noise and the lack of ac, some smell of petrol and fix the cars as they break down. Its that sort of stuff that get you memories and knowledge, not sitting like another doushe in a new eurobubble riding along. And if you dont take rides for enjoyment, just going a to b, your not better than the ordinary people. If this doesnt improve i have to remove my speedhunters sticker from my windshield, and who gives a shit about that? No one, except me, but thats fine.
Paddy McGrath MPistol modifying the hubs was something I didn't even consider until AFTER the redrill. It didn't even dawn on me to explore that option, and when I did, I gotta say, I'd prefer that method. Maybe in the future. I admit it makes me a lil nervous to track the car with redrills
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It's a shame that a contributor to an automotive website 'can't be arsed' to dyno a car for results that would benefit a large audience.
Pretty pathetic attitude.
@Jaydawg They are going to change the name from Speedhunters to Economyhunters.
You couldn't be any more wrong.
Who are you to tell me how I should enjoy my car? You talk like cars should be something that have to be endured or that one must 'feel the pain' to be enjoyed. Bullshit.
I'll enjoy my car however I like. And I would encourage anyone else to do the same. This isn't some sort of competition, it's about personal satisfaction and we all achieve that in different ways. That's what Speedhunters is all about. Everyone is welcome and we don't go around trying to take a shit on someone else because they like to do things for themselves.
Grow up or go away.
@Jaydawg Wait, why do I have to be uncomfortable again? Can't I just roll down the window when I want the smell of petrol? Didn't he just go for a ride for enjoyment in the video?
When I was younger I probably thought the way you do. Now I realise being a true enthusiast doesn't mean pain
I think the parts in the US seem to be a lot cheaper than here in Ireland, but German parts tend to be more expensive than Japanese car parts if that's what you're referring to?
There are still more things I would like to address but both involve time & money, neither of which I have much of these days!
Cheers, Rens!
I'd rather stick with a square setup, not sure if I like the idea of running a narrower setup on the rear. I do like the idea of increasing the front track slightly mind.
I'd rather stick with a square setup, not sure if I like the idea of running a narrower setup on the rear. I do like the idea of increasing the front track slightly mind.
I'd rather stick with a square setup, not sure if I like the idea of running a narrower setup on the rear. I do like the idea of increasing the front track slightly mind.
I guess we can file that under the same lame joke as stancehunters, drifthunters etc.
I guess we can file that under the same lame joke as stancehunters, drifthunters etc.
I guess we can file that under the same lame joke as stancehunters, drifthunters etc.
rook56 @Jaydawg Paddy McGrath There's enough discomfort on the Speedhunters fleet for all of us with my Volvo. That's the beauty of Speedhunters, from Larry and I with our older projects through to Mike, Dino and Paddy with their newer ones, we've got the experience covered
rook56 @Jaydawg Paddy McGrath There's enough discomfort on the Speedhunters fleet for all of us with my Volvo. That's the beauty of Speedhunters, from Larry and I with our older projects through to Mike, Dino and Paddy with their newer ones, we've got the experience covered
rook56 @Jaydawg Paddy McGrath There's enough discomfort on the Speedhunters fleet for all of us with my Volvo. That's the beauty of Speedhunters, from Larry and I with our older projects through to Mike, Dino and Paddy with their newer ones, we've got the experience covered
@Jaydawg You sound so stupid insulting the fact that as most car fans enjoy creature comforts as they mature. This is the face of the modern user of this website, practical, real world cars. I like the idea of blowing up a BN sports kitted s14 on my daily touge drive to work as much as the next guy but thats just not realistic. How the fuck is watching the progression of a stock vehicle getting modded over time not Speedhunters spirt? Piss off
@Jaydawg You sound so stupid insulting the fact that as most car fans enjoy creature comforts as they mature. This is the face of the modern user of this website, practical, real world cars. I like the idea of blowing up a BN sports kitted s14 on my daily touge drive to work as much as the next guy but thats just not realistic. How the fuck is watching the progression of a stock vehicle getting modded over time not Speedhunters spirt? Piss off
@Jaydawg You sound so stupid insulting the fact that as most car fans enjoy creature comforts as they mature. This is the face of the modern user of this website, practical, real world cars. I like the idea of blowing up a BN sports kitted s14 on my daily touge drive to work as much as the next guy but thats just not realistic. How the fuck is watching the progression of a stock vehicle getting modded over time not Speedhunters spirt? Piss off
My apologies if you may have misinterpreted my tone, I wasn't being dismissive. But really it's an unnecessary expense when I could - and have - spend the money elsewhere. Nearest dyno is about 100 miles away, so by the time I pay for fuel and a couple of before and after pulls, it's going to going to set me back a couple of hundred euros for information that is readily available online.
Most intake manufacturers will state that you won't get the benefits from an intake until you remap for stage one.
My apologies if you may have misinterpreted my tone, I wasn't being dismissive. But really it's an unnecessary expense when I could - and have - spend the money elsewhere. Nearest dyno is about 100 miles away, so by the time I pay for fuel and a couple of before and after pulls, it's going to going to set me back a couple of hundred euros for information that is readily available online.
Most intake manufacturers will state that you won't get the benefits from an intake until you remap for stage one.
My apologies if you may have misinterpreted my tone, I wasn't being dismissive. But really it's an unnecessary expense when I could - and have - spend the money elsewhere. Nearest dyno is about 100 miles away, so by the time I pay for fuel and a couple of before and after pulls, it's going to going to set me back a couple of hundred euros for information that is readily available online.
Most intake manufacturers will state that you won't get the benefits from an intake until you remap for stage one.
Oh look, another 'project car'.
$20 says it ends up on either an air ride system or kw coilovers, a set of rays wheels and some othercompletely useless products from the other speedhunters sponsors.
Yaaawwnn... And not because its 9:10am.
So we've gor a fagstang, uber-wank bmw and now a super inspired choice in a vw golf. Wats goin' SH?????
"By the time I sold my E90, I was more concerned about smashing the
carbon front splitter on the road than actually driving and enjoying it.
I don’t want to repeat that mistake."
Good!
I don't understand why this and Mike Garrett's article get so much flak. This sort of "modifying real cars for the real world" is way more relevant than some nutter in Norway slapping giant turbos on a 2JZ (although, I like reading about that too, don't get me wrong!).
One thing though...what's wrong with coilover suspension? No one is forcing you to wind the perches down all the way or crank up the spring rate beyond reason
Thanks for the support!
I know from past experiences that I don't have the self discipline to just 'leave it alone'. It'll just slowly become lower over a couple of months until I eventually leave the sump and its contents on some backroad one night.
You've immediately invalidated your opinion when you use a known derogatory slur against homosexuals to describe a car.
Your kind is not welcome here.
Precious much?
Tis the one you buy wen a sponsor pushes you to, not because you really want a 4cyl mustang.
Think a teaspoon of concrete is in order.
MatthewBortot Every time you post you are bitching. Why do you even visit this website anymore?
Because every so often theres something that makes me go wow, thats bloody cool. This rinse and repeat project car stuff is a bit old now.
MatthewBortot You have been doing it for the better part of a year...
I love the small touches you have done with this! That Reflect-A-Gold is a great and effective compliment to the engine bay! And the photos never disappoint! Mint!
rook56 On my Prelude I use 17x7.5s. I went from 40 series tires to 45 series and its a world of comfort better, with no downside to handling. I also stopped getting 205 and 215s (stretched fit) and went for a square setup, 225s. MOTHER OF GOD did the car handle better than anything. I never want thin tires again!
Paddy, great choice with lots of potential for "real world" use.... I work for a VW tuner in the states and have quite a bit of experience with the Mk5/6 platform. There are a few very simple but very effective mods for those cars that really wake things up...engine yes, but more chassis, brakes and such. If you have any questions just let me know.
Paddy McGrath Not sure if your model GTi has the issue with the runner for the butterfly in the intake manifold cracking? I have an octavia RS and currently have this issue. Been looking at the apr intake and engine tune to give the car a bit of extra urgency, like you say there is very little fuss with the way these cars make their power.
Paddy McGrath Not sure if your model GTi has the issue with the runner for the butterfly in the intake manifold cracking? I have an octavia RS and currently have this issue. Been looking at the apr intake and engine tune to give the car a bit of extra urgency, like you say there is very little fuss with the way these cars make their power.
Paddy McGrath
Have you found the obsessive component of maintaining highest possible avg speeds and fuel economy on a long trip yet? I drove a borrowed A3 1200km a few months ago and it was addicting to stare at the AVG Km/h and try to maintain it as close as possible to the national speed limit
Paddy McGrath Audi R8 wheels for the win.
They're some really pretty pictures, Paddy McGrath. Ireland is a beautiful country "Emerald land" IIRC. As a coupe fan, I've never found hatchbacks attractive and spat the dummy when I found out a Mazdaspeed3 puts out numbers that make my car look as fast as a horse drawn carriage. Anyway, what is so great about the Golf GTI? My friend has one and I know it is turbo, never been in it, but I assume it is AWD too. So it must be the perfect base car for targa/rally, just with traditional German weight and overengineering (which is a good thing).
Hahaha I am guilty I'd doing this. Makes long boring road trips slightly more interesting.
Jagdroach Exactly this sort of shit that makes VAG so Vag
Jagdroach Exactly this sort of shit that makes VAG so Vag
hushypushy Because its weak.
MatthewBortot STFU cunt features.
So is your argument. Dunno why you hate VWs but you might try adding an argument or point. Might make your opinion a little more valid.
So is your argument. Dunno why you hate VWs but you might try adding an argument or point. Might make your opinion a little more valid.
So is your argument. Dunno why you hate VWs but you might try adding an argument or point. Might make your opinion a little more valid.
John Key NZ Paddy McGrath 'Emerald Isle' but close enough
You should read through the first project story - linked above - which should give you decent insight into why I like the GTI so much. Summarised, they're 2.0T FWD (there's an AWD Golf R) with 200HP/200TQ out of the box but with lots of potential that's easily unlocked. They're practical and economical but have a Jekyll / Hyde personality. Quiet when you want it, fast when you want it. Simply, it's one car that does all thing really, really well.
John Key NZ Paddy McGrath 'Emerald Isle' but close enough
You should read through the first project story - linked above - which should give you decent insight into why I like the GTI so much. Summarised, they're 2.0T FWD (there's an AWD Golf R) with 200HP/200TQ out of the box but with lots of potential that's easily unlocked. They're practical and economical but have a Jekyll / Hyde personality. Quiet when you want it, fast when you want it. Simply, it's one car that does all thing really, really well.
Immsy6 Thank you, hope to continue down the same path!
Immsy6 Thank you, hope to continue down the same path!
@lmanion Paddy McGrath I've read about that issue alright, but never encountered it here. There is a lot of easy horsepower to be released from these engines. Even on stock internals, 400BHP with a K04 turbocharger isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.
@lmanion Paddy McGrath I've read about that issue alright, but never encountered it here. There is a lot of easy horsepower to be released from these engines. Even on stock internals, 400BHP with a K04 turbocharger isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.
joshwfifty5 Paddy McGrath Maybe too big for what I have in mind? But good shout!
joshwfifty5 Paddy McGrath Maybe too big for what I have in mind? But good shout!
joshwfifty5 Paddy McGrath Maybe too big for what I have in mind? But good shout!
D1RGE rook56 I'm running 225/40 on 18x8, might step up to 235/40 or 245/40 if they fit at some point. I also never want to run on low profiles again. At least on the road anyways...
D1RGE rook56 I'm running 225/40 on 18x8, might step up to 235/40 or 245/40 if they fit at some point. I also never want to run on low profiles again. At least on the road anyways...
Jagdroach Yeah, I used to always do this until I started listening to good podcasts when on the road. Anything to pass the time!
GT3Spark Awesome, thank you!
it shows that you are enjoying your mk6
great daily driver with enough fun on B-roads.
If you still looking for ideas to improve but not to get too low,
take a look at the Eibach 02-22 springs , in combination with a Superpro Anti-lift Kit it´s a common combination for modest tunes below 280ps
my Mk6 ED35 on 18" with those springs:
Riddlah Yeah, I'm super jealous of your ED35. I don't think we can be friends.
D1RGE rook56 215/45 on a 7.5J 17 for me so there's a teeny stretch over the usual 225/45. Tempted to go for 225s when I next need 4 new ones, which seems to be never.
Paddy McGrath Riddlah likely, as they were not av. in RHD
Paddy McGrath Riddlah likely, as they were not av. in RHD
What weren't, ED35s? Sure they were.
What weren't, ED35s? Sure they were.
Paddy McGrath Im looking to get a tune done plus exhaust and intake mods and have an easy 270ish. Should keep the fuel usage down as well. Looking forward to seeing the future updates on your project as much as I love seeing the insane cars on here stories like these of 'real world' speedhunting are why I enjoy this website!
Now now Matthew, behave. The grownups are trying to have a conversation here.
mrwicksy oh they were ?
thks for info, than i´ve mistaken it with av. in the US
mrwicksy oh they were ?
thks for info, than i´ve mistaken it with av. in the US
Riddlah mrwicksy Yeah, they were available but pretty rare.
Paddy McGrath I agree with some of what your saying. The Gti is everything I hate about the current state of affordable performance cars. Sanititsed, boring to look at and worse to drive. Please Japan drop another inline 6 turbo into something sleek and rip some fresh arseholes in the process. Please.
Paddy McGrath I agree with some of what your saying. The Gti is everything I hate about the current state of affordable performance cars. Sanititsed, boring to look at and worse to drive. Please Japan drop another inline 6 turbo into something sleek and rip some fresh arseholes in the process. Please.
loslogo Paddy McGrath Whilst you're quite rightly entitled to your opinion, I think you're being overly harsh for no real reason other than to get attention. Just because cars like the GTI exist (along with countless other hot hatches) it doesn't really affect the market for high powered coupes. Completely different target markets.
loslogo Paddy McGrath Whilst you're quite rightly entitled to your opinion, I think you're being overly harsh for no real reason other than to get attention. Just because cars like the GTI exist (along with countless other hot hatches) it doesn't really affect the market for high powered coupes. Completely different target markets.
@Imanion I agree that it is the perfect opportunity to upgrade (when something fails) rather than just go OE parts again
@Jaydawg Yeah its a real disgrace, these so called speedhunters with there project cars are more like a bunch of grannys.
mrwicksy D1RGE rook56 I've found that tires and rubber actually work better with a little bit of sidewall. Fancy that! (Don't tell my other Honda friends!!)
mrwicksy D1RGE rook56 I've found that tires and rubber actually work better with a little bit of sidewall. Fancy that! (Don't tell my other Honda friends!!)
mrwicksy D1RGE rook56 I've found that tires and rubber actually work better with a little bit of sidewall. Fancy that! (Don't tell my other Honda friends!!)
Paddy!
Excuse my being too lazy too Google info about the heat tape, what other kind of benefits have you noticed at all from the gold heat tape? (besides being able to touch your intake pipe)
Love your GTI. My cousin has the same model as you, except it is black and has a manual gearbox. They really are a great all around car.
I also don't remember, was yours a new or used model?
Thanks from the U.S.
@Guest Honestly, I can't say that I've noticed any change. In retrospect, I should have recorded my inlet temperatures before and after but I can't imagine there's going to be a noticeable difference. Lots of people within the MK6 GTI community seem to do it, but I'm starting to think it's really only for aesthetics.
@Guest Honestly, I can't say that I've noticed any change. In retrospect, I should have recorded my inlet temperatures before and after but I can't imagine there's going to be a noticeable difference. Lots of people within the MK6 GTI community seem to do it, but I'm starting to think it's really only for aesthetics.
D1RGE mrwicksy rook56 I'm sure there's a point where your tyre can be too wide, it's something I need to look into.
So that's the look I have
So that's the look I have
MPistol specs ?
Nice feature, as always! Like the colour of the car, makes it stand out a bit from the mass of grey and black cars. And those roads...damn nice they are!
About the changes you want to do to it, take your time, there's no pressure. Get to know the car really well, see what it lacks, or if there are no such points, see in which department you want more and/or better, and it's a point to start. It's all down to you, the owner and driver, and your opinions, desires and experiences, not what some people say on forums.
About car enjoyment, that truly is down to the driver. For some, enjoying a car means driving a GTR on a track, for others, driving a muscle car on a straight road...
Me for example, I drive a supermini...because I drive in the city most of the time, and is what the pocket was allowing. As underpowered as it is, it can make me smile when on some open roads (and btw, it's totally stock, except for the rims). Yes, it's slower than probably all the stuff presented here, it's not looking specially, but given what I can afford, it's fine for me. Of course, I also dream of GTRs and 700hp Supras, or the new Alfa Giulia QV...maybe if I'd win the lottery I'd fullfill a dream like that.
I have driven more powerful cars, belonging to friends or at testdrive sessions, but my pockets disaggree with buying stuff like that... :))
As a conclusion, enjoy the car as it is the current moment, it can be really fun
@Z3n1th You make a fantastic point. Coincidentally, the most fun car I've drove all year is the Volkswagen Up!, the small city car with huge character. I can definitely relate yo what you're saying!
ThomBo MPistol Think he said they're 17x9, not sure of offset or tyre sizes.
Paddy McGrath I remember Jeremy Clarkson saying in a TopGear episode, that driving a VW Up! is fun, because, having such low power, you keep your foot on your throttle and go :))
I think we could write a book on this topic...
Regarding car tuning, I don't have any suggestions for your Golf, simply because it's yours and you do what you want with it. Although, I do like the colour and the fact that it's not lowered.
i lived a very similar experience on the blue ridge parkway in TN, same car, same grey day in the mountains, same switch backs and small roads. hope you enjoyed yourself as much as i did!
i lived a very similar experience on the blue ridge parkway in TN, same car, same grey day in the mountains, same switch backs and small roads. hope you enjoyed yourself as much as i did!
Little by little, piece by piece it will come together and every small mod will make a difference when its time for the remap. I dont know if its done yet but I dream of a supermini pug 108 or citroen c1 weighing about 850kg with the 1.2 turbo pushing 150 - 200 hp now that would be an interesting project. Hypermini
Little by little, piece by piece it will come together and every small mod will make a difference when its time for the remap. I dont know if its done yet but I dream of a supermini pug 108 or citroen c1 weighing about 850kg with the 1.2 turbo pushing 150 - 200 hp now that would be an interesting project. Hypermini
Offset is 45mm, 17x9 RPF1'S and 235/45/17 tires (Continental DW)
Offset is 45mm, 17x9 RPF1'S and 235/45/17 tires (Continental DW)
Hun'er MANtz Damn, was meant to go on a press trip there a couple of years back, but it fell through. I'm still devastated by it!
Hun'er MANtz Damn, was meant to go on a press trip there a couple of years back, but it fell through. I'm still devastated by it!
pugmonster I was only talking to a few people last week about how much fun an Up! would be with that exact amount of power. It has to happen!
If the chance ever arises again, i highly suggest it! The speed limit is legendarily low; at 35mph, but the view and refreshing air is top notch
Great to see you out enjoying the car. I can see your struggles with information on the forums, I too have fallen into the habit of listening a bit too attentively to what other peoples opinions on modification routes are. I keep having to remind myself that it's a good starting point, but by no means professional advice. I think it's fun to gather information and then sort of work through it yourself and go the direction you want, especially when you have certain considerations specific to your locale and the uses of the car. Thanks for the update! Looking forward to more.
Have you considered Driver Gear springs as far as suspension goes? I dont personally have them, but i have heard great things about them. Personally I have a set of linear springs stiffer than the DG springs paired with Koni yellows.
Have you considered Driver Gear springs as far as suspension goes? I dont personally have them, but i have heard great things about them. Personally I have a set of linear springs stiffer than the DG springs paired with Koni yellows.
AdamSmith8 I'd heard them mentioned on the forums, but haven't really considered a spring / shock upgrade. I'm currently leaning towards a proper performance orientated air setup, but time will tell.
matthewyaa Thanks for reading
Yea, I've considered airlift performance series. Actually entered the contest on here for them haha
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