People, Honda is back! Or at least it’s well on its way to being back. With the new Civic Type R hitting dealerships in Europe and Japan, and the much-awaited new-gen NSX expected to be shown in production-ready form at this year’s Tokyo Motor Show, there’s definitely some excitement being injected back into the brand.
But you know what? The NSX and Civic Type R aren’t the first cars that come to mind when I think of the future of Honda. No, it’s actually the tiny S660 that I recently spent a few days driving around Tokyo in…
Granted, to compete in the current global supercar market Honda had no choice but to create the sort of technology-laden hypercar that the NSX has turned out to be, but at the same time it has sent out a pretty clear message to enthusiasts: we haven’t forgotten how to make simple, light and extremely fun cars. Except for now, this message is only being broadcast in Honda’s home market.
The S660 might eventually make it out of Japan, and if so probably with a slightly bigger engine than the current 660cc turbocharged 3-cylinder it has to run in Japan to meet Kei-car homologation – but that’s besides the point. The point here is that Honda has gone right back to its roots – to the place where the S600, S800 and ultimately the Beat came from – and created something that fits into today’s automotive landscape beautifully.
There’s a big emphasis put on power these days, but the S660 is a superb example of numbers not being the be-all and end-all. The little Honda sportscar tickles the senses with a combination of obvious talents: it’s light – hitting the scales at just 830kg; it’s got really neutral and predictive handling; and considering the engine’s diminutive size it’s surprisingly big on torque.
The chassis is extremely stiff, the suspension firm but forgiving, and roll is pretty contained. In the wheel department there’s a staggered setup with 15-inch wheels at the front and 16-inch at the rear.
From factory the S660 rides on Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R tyres, which are pretty much just as grippy as semi-slicks, but extremely good for regular road use too. The Honda has more grip that it would ever need, and that’s what really seals the deal for me. This car continuously asks to be thrown around corners. It makes the inner hooligan shine. But since you are never really going all that fast anyway, it’s fun and safe.
Aesthetically, Honda didn’t change much from the concept car that was shown at the Tokyo Motor Show two years ago. The general shape with its twin cowls on the rear engine cover has remained, and overall the proportions are spot on.
It might be small, but it sure makes itself seen out on the street.
And of course, being a Honda build quality is second to none. Yes, the cabin is pretty spartan and there aren’t that many things you actually get, but then again, you expect a car like this to be offered with a basic trim level. But for it to run LED headlights stock, well, it made me quite angry. This was one option I considered for Project Drop Top (of which a new update will be coming this week), but I was put off by the sheer cost. On this particular S660 – which costs under JP¥2,000,000 (US$16,215) – it’s part of the deal!
Of course, to match those super-futuristic and ultra-bright headlights up front, the taillights had to follow suit with an awesome modern design and LED innards. It makes the little S660 really look the part.
As for the way it drives, the S660’s zippy nature makes it a perfect match for Tokyo streets. If you have ever visited this mega-metropolis you’ll probably know just how tight some of the backstreets are, so you can imagine how well-suited the little Honda is for this sort of work. It’s not only a pleasure to slalom through traffic, but it makes even the most mundane of journeys fun – and that’s a big deal.
Turbocharged Fun
One of the coolest thing about the car is its supercar-like rear glass. At a touch of a button it winds down so you can get the full aural delight of the turbocharged 3-cylinder motor sitting behind your ears.
And to get a look at the little powerplant, there’s some more supercar theatre in the way the engine cover opens rearwards.
Except it’s not a twin turbo V8 or a flame-spitting V12 that you’re greeted with, rather a little engine that would probably look more at home slotted inside the frame of a Honda sportsbike.
It’s mounted in a mid-ship layout, which keeps that mass within the chassis and gives the S660 its neutral feel through the corners.
But to really appreciate it you have to look at it from the top. Positioning an engine in the center of a car introduces some problems with cooling – especially on a force-fed application. If you look to the right of the bay you can see how the airbox is fed by the driver’s side scoop. The left-hand intake scoops up air and cools the horizontally-mounted intercooler, which is contained within that airbox-looking shroud. This helps the engine develop a quoted 64PS at 6,000rpm and 104Nm at 2,600rpm. Believe me though, these numbers are far from indicative of how peppy the engine feels.
The center-exit exhaust completes the setup. If you’re anything like me, you’re probably already doing mental calculations and trying to figure out what a less restrictive exhaust, a bit more boost and an ECU re-map are likely to yield. Time will tell as tuners get hold of the cars…
Only when you take a step back do you realise just how small this car really is. It’s compact, yes, but in no way uncomfortable, even for a guy like me who is most times regarded as a giant in Japan.
The fabric roof is very easily removed by undoing the inside hinges and rolling it up from one side.
It then stores away in a special box up front. Just don’t plan on bringing any luggage with you if you want to drive with the top down, as this black box is the only storage the car offers.
Honda, Please Don’t Stop!
Getting in and out of the S660 is comparable to that of any low sportscar, and once inside you are cocooned in a tight but comfortable little cockpit that puts the driver at the center of it all.
Like I mentioned earlier, there isn’t much to look at and play with – just the basics. The instrumentation is very modern looking with an analogue tachometer wrapped around a digital speedometer. Flipping between Eco and Sports driving modes changes the back-light color, but apart from that I didn’t notice any other effect.
There is a small center console where the A/C controls are set, and below it, hidden away in a storage recess, the connections for power, aux and USB plugs. What else do you need? The 6-speed manual shifter that this test car was equipped with was sublime, extremely precise with a typically-Honda short stroke. And you get to use it a lot, as most of the time you are trying to keep the engine within its torque curve rather than revving it out. It makes for effortless progress in the city, and if you come across some corners just use more revs and the engine delivers a little more push. The motor felt a little rough and unrefined at the top – and the sound could definitely be improved – but it’s a great base that a lot of Japanese buyers are sure to personalize and tune from.
Mugen has already come up with its first batch of aero and dress-up parts, including a hardtop and a twin-exit exhaust system. Click here to see the full list.
Is there anything I would actually criticise about the car? Strangely enough, no – which is pretty rare for me. Oh wait, there is one thing… If you feel like completely ruining your S660 purchase, Honda will gladly help you out with the CVT transmission option. That’s the world we live in today I guess, so I’ll stop here and just thank the folks at Honda for actually giving us a normal manual gearbox with this car.
Will the S660 ever be sold outside of Japan? I don’t think so with the current engine it employs. If the US and Europe eventually do get this car, there are rumours floating around that a 1.0L turbo engine would most likely be used – making it a S1000. All we need after that would be a new S2000 and balance would have been restored in the Honda camp.
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I want these in Europe and States!
I want these in Europe and States!
I would love a project car like this. Leave the engine as standard and go wild on the weight loss. Hopefully it doesn't mess up the balance too much. A Honda badged go cart.
These are so cool! I saw the 2nd gen copen in Japan. Really awesome little car, would love to see a head to head of these two kei cars.
The way the AC controls are designed are a clear homage to the Honda S2000. I'm really impressed
I can imagine those rear lights making it to a new S2000
960 They would be stupid not to export these things!
jay8393 Well spotted
speedhunters_dino 960 Probably would sit well in EU and GB, but US? We're looking at an S1000. And, if Honda really wants to and would not make us wait for a long-ass time before hitting the showroom as a car you can buy, again, dammit!--an S3000.
RacingPast go wild on the weight loss. Hopefully it doesn't mess up the balance too much
Hmm... this would make for a good Knowledge Boost article. Something about weight distribution.
Interesting but I'll take a CBR600RR, it's more practical.
If Honda produces an S1000 and S2000 for the U.S. market I will buy one of each!
Would be nice if they put a fireblade engine in one of these.. 180bhp 800kg sounds fun!
OwenReady Speedhunters Fingers crossed they can make a business case for it outside of SE Asia
OwenReady Speedhunters Fingers crossed they can make a business case for it outside of SE Asia
This looks promising, i like it!
OwenReady Always loved the Beat, even with its terrible yellow zebra print. That wheel arch...
johnpmahoney Yellow, perhaps not but embrace the zebra. http://twitter.com/OwenReady/status/632130610870505474/photo/1
OwenReady johnpmahoney I had zebra fake fur seat covers in my (grey) Renault 5. And then leopard in my gold Mk1 Fiesta. Stylish, me.
OwenReady Speedhunters you and me both
dsgolson OwenReady Speedhunters It's not sold in SE Asia, only Japan
dsgolson OwenReady Speedhunters It's not sold in SE Asia, only Japan
how long until someone stuffs a honda k-series engine into and pushes it to 500+hp?
how long until someone stuffs a honda k-series engine into and pushes it to 500+hp?
That looks amazing!
im having a hard time finding the radio
Cool. I don't see any reason why the current engine would be a problem in other markets. We're already getting the 1.0 ecoboost from Ford and the move is towards ever smaller engines anyway as the technology becomes more efficient and enables ever-smaller displacement, lighter engines especially for smaller cars. I look forward to this hitting foreign shores
Cool. I don't see any reason why the current engine would be a problem in other markets. We're already getting the 1.0 ecoboost from Ford and the move is towards ever smaller engines anyway as the technology becomes more efficient and enables ever-smaller displacement, lighter engines especially for smaller cars. I look forward to this hitting foreign shores
Love it, want one
Love it, want one
"you expect a car like this to be offered with a basic trim level. But
for it to run LED headlights stock, well, it made me quite angry. This
was one option I considered for http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/06/introducing-project-drop-top/
(of which a new update will be coming this week), but I was put off by
the sheer cost. On this particular S660 – which costs under JP¥2,000,000
(US$16,215) – it’s part of the deal!"
Welcome to the world of speccing a BMW, Dino. I had a mooch through the Audi Online Configurator, and it's amazing how things like rain sensing wipers and automatic headlamps are STILL optional on an S3, despite it starting at £33,000 ($51k or 6402825 yen at current exchange rates, apparently!) and that's not to mention the super-trick stuff liek LED headlamps. It just goes to show that some manufacturers really take the p*ss when it comes to standard specs, just to make you part with more cash for the best parts.
It looks like a fun little car. It really reminds me of the new NSX. Like a baby version of it.
It looks like a fun little car. It really reminds me of the new NSX. Like a baby version of it.
speedhunters_dino jay8393 Sorry but I don't see it???
Love it! didn't know it comes with a factory fitted AD08R! sick! Honda is really getting on their game face on!
at 830Kg's, its with in the ball park of the ND, even a closer competitor than the 86 (ultra lightweight fun convertible)
...yet as much as people here would comprehend, enjoy or even celebrate such car, the regular joe who's shopping for a "mustang" would look down on this. I really hope this makes it to the US, but just don't expect a lot of people to appreciate a japanese go kart'like kei car, this car is beggin to be driven on a touge, not in a stupid traffic light drag. I get a feeling that honda knows this too, hence the rumored 1.0L export version
speedhunters_dino now that you drove this and the ND, "dochira no hou ga tanoshii desu ka?"
After driving an hour and 20 min across Toronto in my EVO X to get to work this morning, this size and style of car is very appealing... Even if it becomes a S1000 to sell here.
After driving an hour and 20 min across Toronto in my EVO X to get to work this morning, this size and style of car is very appealing... Even if it becomes a S1000 to sell here.
Haha your last comment about the cvt transmission was classic, spoken like a true rev head.
Haha your last comment about the cvt transmission was classic, spoken like a true rev head.
Haha your last comment about the cvt transmission was classic, spoken like a true rev head.
Need a picture to give a sense of scale.
speedhunters_dino dsgolson OwenReady Speedhunters I already seen one at a small shop/dealer on my trip 2 months ago in Hong Kong. Most likely gray-market I know but it will be a common might there real soon as well I'm sure.
speedhunters_dino dsgolson OwenReady Speedhunters I already seen one at a small shop/dealer on my trip 2 months ago in Hong Kong. Most likely gray-market I know but it will be a common might there real soon as well I'm sure.
Slappy_Pistons The Ford makes 123hp vs. 63hp. Like Dino said it would more than likely be a S1000 if it were to come here. The US version of a kei car (Smart Car) puts out 70hp.
I like it but I think it would only work in big cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, etc..
I agree with you more companies are offering those types of engines. For example look at the Mercedes CLA and CLA45 AMG.
Slappy_Pistons The Ford makes 123hp vs. 63hp. Like Dino said it would more than likely be a S1000 if it were to come here. The US version of a kei car (Smart Car) puts out 70hp.
I like it but I think it would only work in big cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, etc..
I agree with you more companies are offering those types of engines. For example look at the Mercedes CLA and CLA45 AMG.
Slappy_Pistons The Ford makes 123hp vs. 63hp. Like Dino said it would more than likely be a S1000 if it were to come here. The US version of a kei car (Smart Car) puts out 70hp.
I like it but I think it would only work in big cities such as San Francisco, Chicago, etc..
I agree with you more companies are offering those types of engines. For example look at the Mercedes CLA and CLA45 AMG.
Chri5 Duncan Think of a big refrigerator
Good to see some of the CR-Z dna being put into this car's interior.
Good to see some of the CR-Z dna being put into this car's interior.
Good to see some of the CR-Z dna being put into this car's interior.
As an ex-owner of an old school mini, I pray to see such a car in Europe (even with the actual motor).
Since I must sold my mini, I'm looking for something that can give me the same feelings that I had with it.
I partially found them back with my BRZ but that's not enough.
I also thought about Lotus seven (and copies) but that's completely another budget + 1m80 with back trouble isn't a good combination for those type of car.
Really hope that Honda will decide that selling it abroad worth it
As an ex-owner of an old school mini, I pray to see such a car in Europe (even with the actual motor).
Since I must sold my mini, I'm looking for something that can give me the same feelings that I had with it.
I partially found them back with my BRZ but that's not enough.
I also thought about Lotus seven (and copies) but that's completely another budget + 1m80 with back trouble isn't a good combination for those type of car.
Really hope that Honda will decide that selling it abroad worth it
I would drive this over a Smart car any day. i think these Kei cars have a chance in NA cities. especially if you can drive canyon roads with a smile.
I would drive this over a Smart car any day. i think these Kei cars have a chance in NA cities. especially if you can drive canyon roads with a smile.
Clever little thing, how about a RWD Prelude?
Now that, I would buy.
Clever little thing, how about a RWD Prelude?
Now that, I would buy.
Jocky I think the donkervoort cars (best modern seven!) is a decent car for being 1.80. atleast better than the other coppies. But also a lot more expensive. Hope one day they will try them out here at speedhunters.
Jocky I think the donkervoort cars (best modern seven!) is a decent car for being 1.80. atleast better than the other coppies. But also a lot more expensive. Hope one day they will try them out here at speedhunters.
I love it! It looks cool and very beat like. Especially with the right wheels and such, it can be a cool little aggressive daily. It makes me laugh that some people knock this car because it's not powerful. IT'S A KEI CAR! It's supposed to be light, small, and fun. There was a time where people bought MG's and Triumphs with similar sizes and specs! Anyways I'm babbling. I like this car. It looks cool and seems like plenty of fun to drive. I would love to take one out to an AUTO X sesh.
My 1992 Suzuki Cappucino also has 64 HP.
I believe the maximum power il limited to 64HP by regulation to be recognized as a Kei Car in Japan.
That would mean that the engine is detuned and easy to tune.
Ewww
These need to make it to the US
HOLY MOSES YES
So much attitude and style for such a small car. I hope the aftermarket goes crazy with this because I'm already modifying it in my head!
import to my country need at least $50k
this was a car I wanted to find out about in detail and now I like it even more. What I read somewhere is that Honda already sold some 8000 s660's already. Wonder if 200hp could be easily achievable with the 1000cc engine
nice car and nice article
Any dice? Or one of those mooning dolls too?? Perhaps a Garfield paw sir?
I would drive the piss out of one of these. Definitely on my list of dailies when it comes overseas.
I would drive the piss out of one of these. Definitely on my list of dailies when it comes overseas.
Hope it's soon available for rent in Japan!
Hope it's soon available for rent in Japan!
AbdHadieHR The sound of the angry sewing machine with its little turbo will be music enough.
AbdHadieHR The sound of the angry sewing machine with its little turbo will be music enough.
Please, please, please Honda bring this or an S1000 to the US. Please! I want one so much!
Please, please, please Honda bring this or an S1000 to the US. Please! I want one so much!
Porscherider : Like you said, Donkervoorts are completely another budget. I don't mind paying a little more just for the fun a car can give me but I also have some budget limits ...
And I think that's the problem for a car like the S660 (or eventually 1000), most of people (in Europe) want a lot of equipement for their money.
Given the japanese price, I think 20-25k€ would be a realistic price for such a car in Europe. At that price, they won't be a lot of people ready to pay.
Juste look at the reaction when GT86/BRZ arrived (not enough power / too slow / not enough torque / for that price I can get a used 350Z / ... ) and you could have an idea of what would be reaction in front of S1000.
I relaly hope that I'm wrong but I doubt it.
That's a great shot of the engine compartment Dino. Really shows the layout well. Sport mode is also supposed to make quicker throttle response and shifts, though I too did not notice any difference. For those wanting some size comparisons, here's some more real world photographs http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/2015/04/23/next-version-honda-s660-review/... Neko.
UWerqxTeam_MJ speedhunters_dino 960 S1000 for sure in the US. Not sure a lot of people would go for it though, hence the probability it will never happen
UWerqxTeam_MJ speedhunters_dino 960 S1000 for sure in the US. Not sure a lot of people would go for it though, hence the probability it will never happen
lf rps13 speedhunters_dino dsgolson OwenReady Speedhunters Yes definitely not official.
super jesus Might need some serious chopping to make it fit!
super jesus Might need some serious chopping to make it fit!
mrwicksy Yeah the Germans suck on this carp. They should really be ashamed of themselves the bastards!
mrwicksy Yeah the Germans suck on this carp. They should really be ashamed of themselves the bastards!
DinoSawr yup, definitely styling cues in there
DinoSawr yup, definitely styling cues in there
mas921 speedhunters_dino S660 for sure! The ND felt way more underpowered. Plus the BOV sounds on the Honda make you feel like you are going faster lol
mas921 speedhunters_dino S660 for sure! The ND felt way more underpowered. Plus the BOV sounds on the Honda make you feel like you are going faster lol
Kirk_B Why what's wrong with an Evo X?
Kirk_B Why what's wrong with an Evo X?
Gary89 Hate the damn things, they should be banned on anything remotely sporty!
Gary89 Hate the damn things, they should be banned on anything remotely sporty!
KennedyCao Chri5 Duncan LOL
Serge914 Or they quote a number and in reality it's higher. Like the "280 PS" R34 I got in 1999 lol
bluestreaksti It will!
@madmatttt Malaysia?
@madmatttt Malaysia?
@pugmonster If it's turbo, I'd think so
koko san It will be for sure
@Kuroneko Ah you got to play with the sound app lol. The Sport button really didn't make any difference, I tried it a million times and conclude it was 1) broken or 2)a gimmick. Whatever, this car needs lots of tuning anyway to make it proper fun so both the sound app and the fake sport button are things you will quickly forget about lol
Nothing for pleasure driving, but pretty high compression for stop and go traffic. It is shameful to have it as my daily driver... As you know with your R34.
Nothing for pleasure driving, but pretty high compression for stop and go traffic. It is shameful to have it as my daily driver... As you know with your R34.
I'm not a Honda guy by any stretch of the imagination, but I would buy one of these in a heartbeat if they sold them in the U.S. Perfect urban toy for me!
I'm not a Honda guy by any stretch of the imagination, but I would buy one of these in a heartbeat if they sold them in the U.S. Perfect urban toy for me!
that would be a great commuter car!
speedhunters_dino Agree! Tuned. Lowered, a bit, on some RS Wat and we've got a totally wicked machine. That manual box is great!
KennedyCao How is it compared to a Toyota IQ?
KennedyCao How is it compared to a Toyota IQ?
KennedyCao How is it compared to a Toyota IQ?
Oh those stealthy air intakes on the rear pillars are ridiculously cool
Oh those stealthy air intakes on the rear pillars are ridiculously cool
can we get a K series in it?>
can we get a K series in it?>
speedhunters_dino UWerqxTeam_MJ 960 Easy. We'll just brainwash them and line up this one, that mid-engined baby NSX going 'round, and the actual NSX for some smashing ads and reviews.
Honda is back...everywhere but on the racetrack, where in 2015, they've been beaten an embarrassing number of times. When you combine F1, Super Formula, Super GT, Indy, WTCC, it has not been a good year for Honda. They need some serious restructuring in their race department
Honda is back...everywhere but on the racetrack, where in 2015, they've been beaten an embarrassing number of times. When you combine F1, Super Formula, Super GT, Indy, WTCC, it has not been a good year for Honda. They need some serious restructuring in their race department
speedhunters_dino mas921 wow really? didn't expect that! now am really eager to try it!
It's funy how everybody's hyped on this car only because of this article, but if they were presented with a slightly older zzw30 for half the price, but in very good condition they'd start calling it names and walk away...
It's funy how everybody's hyped on this car only because of this article, but if they were presented with a slightly older zzw30 for half the price, but in very good condition they'd start calling it names and walk away...
Twitch_6 Very true. They've ignored their diehard enthusiasts by creating boxes on wheels propelled by CVT transmissions for years no. It's probably karma taking revenge hahaha
Moise It'll be a tight squeeze. Might have to mount the gearbox outside the the fender lol
Emptypie Very well engineered
For the price and what it offers for size and no-frills, I'd scoop one of these up for a commuter without a second thought. I'm waffling about the price of a BRZ at the moment for the same reason, but I'd rather have the S660. This is as close to a del Sol as Honda is going to make again, and I had a lot of fun in mine back in the late '90s.
aurahack ZoeeHahpur omg would drive. i almost bought a toyota starlet once! almost
aurahack ZoeeHahpur KP61, sounded like bees, top speed 85mph
chead ZoeeHahpur Whoaaaaa really??? Wow, I'd LOVE to have the chance to drive a KP61. Anything like that is rare as hell around here.
aurahack ZoeeHahpur I'm now looking at craigslist. They're all between 2-5,000 ugh
aurahack ZoeeHahpur the one I drove was low so it felt Iike when you ride a bike too fast and the pedals spin and you get scared? That
aurahack ZoeeHahpur also the bicycle is yelling
Honda, Ill take either an S660 or S1000 in Australia.
kthxbai.
Honda, Ill take either an S660 or S1000 in Australia.
kthxbai.
willis85 I'm really hoping Honda is reading these responses lol
willis85 I'm really hoping Honda is reading these responses lol
@fabrik8 Ah the third gen CRX...never quite got why they called it del Sol in some markets
@fabrik8 Ah the third gen CRX...never quite got why they called it del Sol in some markets
sandpaper condom It's probably just exciting to see Japanese car makers making exciting and affordable cars again. It's not all about GT-Rs and WRXs
sandpaper condom It's probably just exciting to see Japanese car makers making exciting and affordable cars again. It's not all about GT-Rs and WRXs
speedhunters_dino Emptypie no pun intended
speedhunters_dino Emptypie no pun intended
speedhunters_dino willis85 I'll send the Saitama dev team another email with the URL here just to make sure!
sandpaper condom As our host suggests - including in the title here - it's not so much about the car itself (though this one is pretty damn good), it's about a mainstream manufacturer willing to take a chance on a dream to make an interesting new car. That the car itself is a dynamic, modern, and fun device is even better.
Not sure what a ZZW30 is, but can they be bought new, with HDMI input, Google navi, sticky Yokohama, and a temaki roof from the manufacturer?
Hey Dino,
I think I'm in love. I suppose I'm a closet "hairdresser car" fan as I own an SW20 MR2 and my first option was an NA MX-5, and would totally love to own one of these. You had me at mid-mounted turbocharged and light. Basically a baby go-kart with supercar features haha! I recently stopped being a car importer but with all these nice JDM rides I think I'm going to have to keep importing in some capacity.
Hey Dino,
I think I'm in love. I suppose I'm a closet "hairdresser car" fan as I own an SW20 MR2 and my first option was an NA MX-5, and would totally love to own one of these. You had me at mid-mounted turbocharged and light. Basically a baby go-kart with supercar features haha! I recently stopped being a car importer but with all these nice JDM rides I think I'm going to have to keep importing in some capacity.
Wish cars weren't so expensive here... would love to have one.
This or a Mazda ND?
speedhunters_dino willis85 You and me both mate!
@Kuroneko sandpaper condom speedhunters_dino It's a third or fourth gen MR2. I own a second gen SW20 and can say its a great car for what it is, mine even has the pre-revision suspension meaning snap oversteer is even more of a worry. Car makers have for a long time become more safety oriented and moved away from the ballsy/daring/sporty camp. I don't think Toyota could bring the MR2 back a la a true MR2, it'd be tame and less of a drivers car much like the current MX-5 (which is still a very very nice car though!)
speedhunters_dino Gary89 are they worser than automatic or tiptronic sporty cars? I've watched Porsche Boxsters and 370Z's being parked whilst waiting in car parks and been disappointed when I failed to see any downshifting or putting it in 1st
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Looks great from every angle but the front. Anyway, can't wait to see what people do with it!
@Kuroneko sandpaper condom HDMI input and google navi don't actually make it go any faster, nor more stable... The zzw30 is a very similar car to this, Toyota used to ake it a few years back and it actually came with very good Advans "sticky Yokohama" stock. Convertible too.
speedhunters_dino sandpaper condom Yes, it is indeed pleasant to finally see someone turn their attetntion to something like this. Sadly, not many understand that.
speedhunters_dino sandpaper condom Yes, it is indeed pleasant to finally see someone turn their attetntion to something like this. Sadly, not many understand that.
speedhunters_dino Twitch_6 They still doing ok in INDY and BTCC
If Honda will never give me another Prelude, then this would be a great little city car. I can't wait to see what Mugen does with it or Spoon
I had the privilege of having a close up look at one of these while I was at Fuji Speedway during a Super GT race at the Honda stand. Have to say its a very pretty neat and fun package and would say that the cockpit is quite engaging and the controls feel like they they are all in the right positions....unfortunately given my 6'2 frame it did feel a little small for me and had some trouble getting out of one which amused an elderly Japanese gentleman who was waiting in line to jump in.
Would definitely like to see this here in Aus as it would be a nice contender to the newly released ND MX5. I also spotted a nicely kitted up Mugen spec one over at the Mugen stand.
@pugmonster The current Fireblade makes 180hp from a 1000cc NA engine...
This, or a new MX5? They're both "small" and basic with manual roofs. Although I'm thinking the S660 would make a better urban runabout, it lacks any form of storage, and the MX5 has an underwhelming stock powertrain...
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