Banishing The Female Car Enthusiast
Where Are The Women?

I hope that title got your attention, and I know what you’re thinking. But before you ask, ‘Who is this evil sexist prick and why is he talking about women that way?’, let me ask you a question. When was the last time you ever heard anybody use the term ‘male car enthusiast’? How ridiculous does that sound? You might be starting to catch onto my point here…

I have a dream that one day there will be no such thing as a female car enthusiast, or rather, the ‘female enthusiast’ label. It’s probably unrealistic of me to dream of a time where males no longer dominate the automotive industry, but I still think the world would be a much cooler place if more girls liked cars. In my dream, the elusive ‘car girl’ is a thing of the past.

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Of course, it would be incredibly ignorant of me to be sitting here telling you that hardly any women get into cars. In actual fact, I know many females with an incredibly strong automotive passion, and to demonstrate this all the images in this article are of genuine women enthusiasts from over nine different countries. I’m also one of them.

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Girls aren’t really a popular ‘topic’ of conversation here on Speedhunters, are they? But before you start giggling and nudging each other in a typically boyish and incredibly mature fashion, the sad fact is that just under five per cent of our current readership is female. Keeping in mind that most of those women are probably just our mothers, or your mother if you’re using her computer, this isn’t really a laughing matter. Guys, we have a problem.

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Before you rush to the comments section yelling, ‘Me! Me! I’m a female car enthusiast!’, please know that the point of this story isn’t to prove that there are petrol-headed women out there in the world, because there are many – and probably more than most people realise. It’s more about the fact that women are the minority in this male-dominated industry, and it’s a fact that everyone just seems to accept and not really do anything about.

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But why is it like this? Why aren’t more women taking an interest in the automotive world? Wheels are awesome! Motorsport is exciting! Speed is addictive! Engines are mind blowing! Seriously, who wouldn’t want in on all this stuff?

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Thanks to testosterone, men generally possess more muscle mass than women and are prone to being more competitive and aggressive than their less-hairy counterparts. So do most girls just assume that you need to be physically strong, masculine or tomboyish and have a competitive nature to enjoy cars as a hobby? Perhaps these common misconceptions are partially at fault.

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Many would say that the appeal of cars to men is obvious. Having a cool toy that’s faster and tougher than the next guy’s fulfils some kind of primal desire to show off and be the better, stronger man. But to be honest, I don’t think I personally know any men like this. Perhaps it’s just the scene that I’m involved in, but everyone I know seems to love cars, well, because of the cars themselves and the friendships they’ve formed around them. It comes down to one simple factor: fun. And that’s the exact same reason I like cars. Hmm…

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I think we can all agree that the majority of men come pre-programmed with some kind of instinctual attraction to things that go fast and make loud noises. The choice of cars as a hobby comes naturally. But generally, women aren’t like this. Women, at some point, are going to need convincing that cars are fun, and not just some silly toys that men play around with.

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If you ask any enthusiast how their automotive passion began, you’ll find that at some point in their life they were exposed to car culture in some way or form, which inspired them to take an interest in it. Maybe their parents took them along to car shows or motor racing throughout their childhood; perhaps they were put in a go-kart as a kid, or they watched an older brother or friend tinkering around in the garage and thought it looked pretty cool.

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But I think that opportunities like these aren’t as common for women, simply because people just don’t assume they’re going to like cars. People will argue that the main reason is because we are taught from birth that girls should like pink things and dolls and flowers, and boys should like blue stuff and play with trucks and soccer balls. But I don’t think that really matters all that much. I think it’s the gender profiling that occurs later in life that has more of an effect.

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I played with Barbie dolls as a young girl and was never surrounded by cars or motorsports as a kid. My dad would have never thought to teach me about them either, but even if he had, I very highly doubt that I would have taken an interest at that time. Moving on from childhood, as teenagers we’re all steered in the same direction our friends are going, and for girls that doesn’t really mean getting involved with cars, does it? At that sensitive age where everyone just wants to fit in and get by without being laughed or teased for being different, a nurturing and encouraging environment for women to learn about cars is practically non-existent.

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Maybe being in my mid-20s I’m too young to know better, but it does seem to me that the rise of the internet has helped, and is constantly improving the situation. There are thousands of forums, blogs and online communities where you can source information and inspiration to fuel your automotive passion – but you do kinda have to know where to find them. For most women, at some point I think there needs to be an influencer – someone that leads the way and shows them the light.

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For me, it wasn’t until after my teenage years that I met someone – a man, I might add – who opened up a window for me into the automotive world. I looked through that window with complete disinterest at first, and I wasn’t forced through it either. But after a while, I started to wonder what was on the other side. I jumped through that window and never looked back, and all I’ve wanted to do ever since is explain to more women why they should do the same. I know they won’t regret making the same jump I did…

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I think that a lot of women assume that there is some huge sacrifice involved in becoming an automotive enthusiast. This could not be further from the truth. You aren’t sacrificing your femininity, and you can afford it. Newsflash: you don’t have to be a tomboy to have an automotive hobby – you don’t have to be any particular type of girl whatsoever! You just have to be yourself. And all that money you’re going to spend on car parts, you would’ve just spent that on something else anyway! Probably some ridiculously impractical piece of furniture or overpriced piece of clothing you’d only wear once then hate within a few weeks, and it would just sit in your wardrobe for ages. No female can plead not-guilty of this.

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My friend Michelle (pictured alongside me above) works in advertising and has several project cars on the go. She also has great furniture and a gorgeous handbag. Urghh, I hate her.

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At the same time, you can’t expect to just pronounce yourself to the world as a newborn ‘car chick’ by sticking a racing stripe on your bonnet and painting your factory alloy wheels. No woman should ever seek special treatment in the car industry just because they’re a woman. Just like any culture or industry, it’s important to possess the correct knowledge to be taken seriously. It might seem daunting at first, but don’t be afraid to ask questions. Remember, just the fact that you’re taking in interest in cars is cool to any other car enthusiast. The more girls there are like you, the less the next woman who makes that decision is going to stand out.

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Maybe girls in general think they are too delicate, or lack the confidence to pursue cars as a hobby. Or, as another thought, is there simply a lack of influencers? Of role models? What well-known women are there to look up to in the automotive industry?

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When asked this question recently, names such as Sabine Schmitz, Susie Wolff and Danica Patrick entered my mind. The ‘Queen of the Nürburgring’, the first female driver to take part in a Formula 1 race weekend in 22 years, and the most successful woman in the history of American open-wheel racing – these are all extremely admirable accomplishments.

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Don’t get me wrong, I daydream about being a kick-ass professional racecar driver all the time. I’d kill to have the title of Queen of the Ring. And Danica Patrick pilots an 865hp NASCAR machine and has a crazy-hot body. But I haven’t been training my whole life to become a professional racer and I’ll never be one. I guess you could say that I look up to these women because of their achievements, but I just can’t personally relate to them.

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I don’t generally like sports, and I wouldn’t call myself a competitive person. I’m just an average girl who wants to modify cars and have fun driving them. Where does someone like me find inspiration?

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There’s no female equivalent of Magnus WalkerMark Arcenal or Kei Miura, is there? In the past, I’ve always looked up to male role models within the car industry simply because the people who’ve been promoting all the things I like about car culture have been male.

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But I think the internet is gradually playing a big part in changing this, and the huge explosion of drift and stance culture in recent years has certainly been at least partially responsible for inspiring a number of women to take notice and think, ‘Hey, that does actually look pretty fun. I could do that!’

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Perhaps I started out looking up to male icons in the car industry, but the more I hear about or meet other women who share the same passion for cars that I do, the more I realise that this is what inspires me the most. These women might not realise it, but they’re already role models themselves, for the next generation of girls below them.

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You definitely can’t force hobbies on people, and you can’t make people like things… on purpose. But what you can do is let other people see how badass your life is because of cars and show them exactly what they’re missing out on. Help create that positive, encouraging environment for new enthusiasts, and by doing so you’ll be helping influence a hobby that could potentially craft their life into something incredibly fulfilling. All you have to do is show them the window.

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Do you know of any female role models in the automotive community? And what do you think we can do to encourage more women to take an interest in cars? Please feel free to share and discuss in the comments section below!

Taryn Croucher
Instagram: @taryncroucher
Twitter: @taryncroucher

A big thank-you to everyone who submitted photos to me for use in this feature.

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Good read and many good points brought up. I still have my very first car well truck that I bought when I was 17 a 1987 Ford Ranger that is a static pebble pusher. Ive had the truck in the back of my garage since I was 19 (10 Years) with constant bugging from friends and strangers of why not finish or drive it my reply hasn't changed I plan on building that project with my first born aka my daughter and im pumped to do it with her one day!

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Michelle Mouton, Shirley Muldowney. They're just two examples, but they both jumped into two of the most extreme types of racing and were amazing at it. I was/still am a photographer for a rally team here in the States, and our driver is a girl. She loves it, she drives her rally car all over town, and always tries to help out the crew when they're working on her car. There's a few female rally drivers in the Rally America that come and go, and they just enjoy racing. My mom is even a little into cars. She goes to rallies and on the rare occasion a car show. She didn't really grow up in a car centered family, her brother had some nice muscle cars, but she just kind of got into it herself and with my dad. Even some of my friends that are girls seem to understand cars a little more. One even wanted to try drifting in the snow once, that's when she buried my car in snow bank. But at least she was having fun with something automotive. I don't know if there's a point to that long comment, but I feel like I've been lucky with female car enthusiasts. Or at least semi interested in a way. You better believe my girlfriend, whenever that happens, will be surrounded by cars, and if she doesn't like them now, hopefully someday she'll show some interest. If not, no worries.

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Mari Pozi. She is an icon in the pro-touring/track-focused muscle car movement, having won her recognition and respect building a wicked fast Camaro and driving it herself to constant top-three standings in track days and auto-cross events all around the US. Everyone in that scene knows her or knows about her and her red Camaro. She isn't connected with any "official" type of motorsports, but instead, and just like the author of this piece asked, is a girl who enjoys mopdifing street cars and driving them to the limit. You shoulod really track her down, because she's also an incredibly down to earth person. Look for videos of her, and if you want to see her car, all you have to do is turn on your PS3 and go into Gran Turismo 6.

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Lately I've been spotting a girl at the Nürburgring racing her Miata. I think some guys could learn a thing or two from her driving!  Totally missed the announcement of this item btw... I would have had a couple of shots I think. Nice article!

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If you're on Tumblr you'll know there are a great many car enthusiast, who are female, that have a genuine love of the machine hobby. At the same time they completely own their femininity too, so it's not as though they are trying to force themselves as "one of the guys."

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Props to the ladies out there setting examples for the community. Thank you Taryn for representing us and making a great statement. I hope to see more acceptance in the future, the more I have grown in this scene the more respect I have seen take place. I, with the help of close friends, re-built my fd when the water seal broke after a year of owning it, it was the best learning experience I could ask for to finally know my car and it's triangles inside and out, but it always seemed to be a matter of proving myself. At the end of the day you proved to yourself you could do it, make that engine become alive again, bolt on that full custom exhaust and single turbo or maybe even mount new wheels on your ride-Whatever it may be, be proud of yourself, no need to boast or prove it to the haters. Reflect, respect and do it all over again. As Taryn said, be yourself, that's the most important thing you can be.
Cheers,
Karissa

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I fully agree

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Interesting that you say you are trying to write an article that elevates the respect for women auto enthusiasts but have more  provocative shots than substantive material - if this is an attempt to make up for the article that Larry did with the photos of women in bikinis it falls far short and in fact only continues that objectification.

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If I ever have a daughter, I'll make sure that there will be a bin of hot wheels and Tonka toys next to the barbie dolls. I want someone I can pass this passion down to.

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If I ever have kids, I'll make sure they're always surrounded by cars of some sort. Maybe an Evo track and weekend car and a mk2 escort van with YB engine?!?!

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Firstly, I want to say thank you. This is an article I have been waiting for for a long while. Getting onto your questions, I think there are role models, such as Monisha Kaltenborn, Leena Gade, your aforementioned examples, and in Australia at least, the women of WAMS (Women of Australian Motorsport) and drifters like Catherine Coleiro, who also runs her own tuning shop. However, as pointed out, these people are in the minority, and it is a serious problem, albeit an improving one. 

In terms of ways to improve this imbalance, I think there are a few possibilities off the top of my head. The first would be to remove the promotional models and related 'beauty contests' at events and in car publications. I know these girls are there earning money in a role they've chosen, but to me, their presence in this form just screams to all and sundry that women in the motoring world are there as sexual objects for men's pleasure, nothing more. 

The second would be more articles like this that highlight the work women do in the industry. The BBC had a great interview with Leena Gade recently and I saw it shared on precisely no car-related pages. This needs to change. 

The third is sadly the most difficult - get men in the industry to change their incredibly outdated and sexist attitudes. I should point out it's not just the automotive world that's at fault in terms of sexist attitudes, and it's certainly not the worst male-dominated industry for sexism, but it isn't great. Actively hounding women out of the industry with abuse, leering/demeaning comments, a complete lack of respect in general and more are all major reasons why women do not feel comfortable in the auto realm. Obviously, this is improving, and the simple force of numbers in terms of more women taking the plunge will see this change to a certain degree, as will changing societal attitudes in general, but there needs to be more done here. Guys need to start standing up to sexist friends, and frankly, a lot more could be done by parents, the media and the education system in terms of trying the eliminate the entitled attitudes boys learn growing up, and dealing with the psychological problems that often cause sexism in men, too. 

My two cents.

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I disagree with BullHorn , I dont see any provocative shots. It is just that are cars and women and most of us gearheads love both. And if they pose a little who cares, is all about the love for machines and passion for it.  I think there are several women out there that love cars, but they are still rare although they are increasing in number, give it time. I know a couple that love cars and as us guys their car has become an extension of their personality. 

I certainly love to see the girls in here modding  their car, the fairlady Z and the EVO are cars that I would love to drive, and would be proud to call my own.

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For some of us girls, we get lost in the grind. The garage days, the car shows and events and forget that we are girls and it's OK to be a girl. Speaking as a female in a all male industry, it's really easy to wear hoodies, jeans and hats all damn day every day. We lose track of self image in a small way; most of it goes to our motorsport passions. Each photo in this article is refreshing to see for me. They are fully clothed, wearing casual yet in style fashion...I don't know why someone would gripe about that. They capture a great and honest balance. Not all of us would be caught in a bikini posing in front of a car, but props to those who have the confidence and can. 

It doesn't matter what you wear or who you are memories, passion and good friends last a lifetime. Motorsports happen to bring a lot of that to the table for girls too.

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BullHorn So a girl can't dress sexy for herself ??

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you rule ona

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BullHorn You should try some Dulcolax for fast and effective relief. It will change your perspective on provocative shots and life in general. I promise.

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Always good to see ladies who are into cars.But have you noticied how those ladies into cars dont normally go out with guys who are in to cars??
We need more articiles like this

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Thanks so much Taryn and all the sisters here for being a part of our community and bringing a sociological light to the arena that we don't often hear. It's refreshing and we appreciate you!

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"It’s more about the fact that women are the minority in this male-dominated industry, and it’s a fact that everyone just seems to accept and not really do anything about."


So what do you propose?  There's a lot of observation and theory as to why, which we all know, but no suggestions how to change.  Do you want the Rooney rule for hiring in the industry?  Or do you just want more females involved in cars?  If the latter, well, this article is rather useless as it's all personal choice.  Perhaps you would like males to be more accepting of females whom are car enthusiasts? Well, I am pretty sure males would appreciate more women into cars...

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Hugely unnecessary feminist post on Speedhunters? That's a first. Boys will be boys, and girls will be girls. There's something genetic, or maybe even social if you don't believe in the whole genetic thing, that boys from a young age are playing with toy cars and girls play with barbies. I don't think there is any guy out there who would say no to a girl liking cars, quite on the contrary, I think most men find girls who are into cars even more attractive than the typical girl who isn't. Things are just the way they are, and I don't think there necessarily needs to be any changing. People like what they like, let them be.

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turbom I married a guy who was and is still into cars. He's about the only guy I dated who understood or could handle me liking cars as much as I do. LOL! There aren't a lot of guys who are accepting of it...or at least there weren't a few years ago. I don't know if some felt/feel threatened by females being involved in the same hobby?? I'm sure it's not like that for everyone though. I know that working in a body shop for a while, men didn't always meet me eye to eye at first. I had to prove myself. Then again, I'm short...so that may be why. HA!!!

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I would add Maria de Villota to the list. 
I have to pinpoint that the highlight of this post is the fact that your friend has great furniture and a gorgeous handbag. Inevitably, I have to admit that everytime I read your posts, I get so much wiser to the level that my brain freezes from the sheer amount of useful information. Thank you for challenging my mentality in a creative way. I guess the SH community really serves a purpose.

BTW where is Elizabeth? I am not getting the same amount of pure automotive enjoyment this month. She is a cool lady. Bring her back.

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Yo.. Dope article! Personally the subject matter is an academic focus of mine, but also just down with their being some socio-cultural commentary on Speedhunters. Good Looks!

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I love how every girl in these pictures is beautiful.  What about all the ugly Bettys out there turning wrenches?!  Or are we only talking about HOT GIRLS in the auto world?

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Shirley Muldowney and Michel Mouton. All that needs to be said about female empowerment!

That being said, we need to break girls of the superficial lifestyle they are raised on nowadays.

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D1RGE EXE
"we need to break girls of the superficial lifestyle they are raised on nowadays"
You could say the same exact thing about boys/men

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D1RGE EXE 
That's not just exclusive to girls/women.

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Kathrine Legge was someone I was trying to get my step daughter to meet at the Tudor race at Mosport this year (the Deltawing caught fire though, so the team left early), as I would agree that it is a difficult barrier to break. 
Will she get the bug to work on cars? I hope so. When I was working on modifying my last car, she was wanting to participate in the painting. She is curious what makes my car more fun to ride in than her mothers. Most of all, she has a basic understanding of what makes the car move, which I'm still struggling with on the two boys! For the record, she is 9, and they are 7 and 6 respectively).

The biggest challenge to this? In my eyes it's hollywood and disney, The portrayal of women as helpless, or in need of someone else to work it out is a major theme. for every car or engineering savy character, there are a hundred that are hopeless "math is hard" stereotypes.

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Obviouslyitssexist My only objection to your comment is you initial statement. I believe all women are beatiful in their own way. To be more specific, a few of the ladies in the pictures above are a solid 10 in my book. Of course, my scale goes up to 20. I feel like this post includes a  variety of female automotive enthusiasts. What is beautiful for you, may be something else to another individual.

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RensAdams  blue Miata?. sounds like jenna. she sure can hussle that round the ring.

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SirMarkoJeremic Hey so I'm not trying to be rude or condescending or anything of the sort, first off. The thing is, you're using some pretty out of date 'facts' such as 'genetics' or 'society' to do I'm not sure what. There's nothing genetic about liking cars, trucks, blue, or anything else in the world. This has been well known and proven scientifically starting in 1935 with Margaret Mead's field research in Papua New Guinea. She showed the world that gender roles and what women and men are 'supposed' to be like or what they do like is completely variable and depends only on what culture you're brought up in. 

That leads me to believe that the reason women aren't typically found in the car scene is because of centuries or even millennia of sexism in the western world! To argue that things just 'are the way they are' and don't 'necessarily need changing' is a frankly, absurd argument! Really, it sounds like something someone would have said in defense of slavery, marital rape, or women not having equal rights. "This is just the way things are and we don't need you stinking people changing it". 

Also, I get the feeling that you may not be too informed on what feminism is, and how many kinds of feminism there are, because IF this were to fall under the feminist umbrella, it would have to be under the most liberal of varieties which basically states that women and men should have equal opportunities (not too crazy).  

Essentially, I'm not trying to tell you what to do, think, or how to act. What I'm saying is that your beliefs, innocent as they are, may be rooted in deeply sexist thought which can be hard to see. I get the sense that is really not how you want to come across so it's important to know. 

The whole gender divide in car culture phenomenon is, I think, just a projection of gender inequality as an institution and not necessarily anything to do specifically with cars or car culture. 

Food for though, cheers
Nigel

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Sort of off-topic, but is there any way to get the full resolution version of the first picture?

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I am a woman who loves to work on cars, ever since I was 10 years old. Thanks to my father who started teaching me at a young age all about cars and how they work, I was struck by the "car bug" and have loved it ever since. When I was a teenager my father took a motor and transmission out of a wrecked car and built a stand for it all. So in the back yard of our house in Athens I had my very own 318 w/ transmission for me to crank up anytime I wanted too and to work on. I learned so much about the little 318 and had a blast. 

I did take the Automotive class in my High School as long as I could, 2 1/2 years worth!!

I am now 50 and still have that great love and passion for cars. I currently own a 1988 Ford Mustang GT that I drove until the motor gave out at 411k original miles on it. I did as much work as I could to it and had to have my husband help do some of it. It helped that he use to be a mechanic full time when he was younger.

We are rebuilding the 302, which is bored .30 over and now is a 306. 

I wished my daughters would have taken more of an interest in cars but they did not. It would have been my dream job to work on cars but at the time I was growing up it was frowned upon women working jobs that were normally held by men.

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I see Emma Watson inspired you with her speech at the UN :) I think social models dictate that girls shouldn't like cars or anything having to do with machines etc. I guess it carries on into careers, I don't know the ratios but there must be a lot more men working in science/engineering fields for the same reason. 

I work in small factory and run the machine shop, sometimes girls from the line use the milling machines and drill presses. They enjoy the work and are eager to learn why we do things in a certain way... its exposure they never had before about something mechanical

Female role models can help to entice the interest of young girls, but in a way not everyone finds enjoyment or cars as a hobby there's plenty of men who couldn't care less about working on cars, or even owning one. 

Oh Ashley Force..

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I've been reading SH since a couple of weeks after SH went live. I feel that this article is one of, if the THE most emotionally charging and maybe assaulting article in the history of SH. Maybe it's just me. Although I'm getting this article as a almost classical female bash on the male kind, right-fully frustrated and angry, I do understand the drive behind this and there are quite a few strong and valid points that are made here. HOWEVER, as a generalization, besides the points made here the fact is that most of the female population (of course exceptions do not apply) just don't have any kind of interest or spark for things automotive whatsoever. I'll make a parallel, there are WAY, way more of the female population interested, sparked and involved in martial arts than car culture. Martial arts are generally hard, brutal and not for everyone, yet there are so many girls that since an early age are naturally interested and stubborn enough to become martial arts practitioners; granted there's a much more complex and supporting environment when it come to martial arts and way more history than car culture. An observational fact: how many females proactively start a car-related conversation or a car-culture conversation? Compared to males.... unfortunately not many. Quite a few really... Even if not being "a car person", you're more likely to observe, find or hear a male start a car-related conversation than a female. Again, I do recognize that support is not the same and acceptance is not generally the same for females interested in cars as for males. And yet, I believe that it's a matter of guts, a matter of will, a matter of passion. It's a fact throughout history that when females also really wanted something that the males had/have, women have been stubborn and fought for it and got it! When it comes to females wanting to get into a world generally occupied by males, as a general advice that I think is essential for females to understand is that females need to calm down, take a sit, take a breath and observe, try to understand what drives males? What fuels them? What is their language? Males like to compete, males like to challenge, males like to do battle. Getting to a point, a car newbie guy is usually treated more or less as a female car newbie. Being a non-car guy and getting yourself in a car group/discussion and pot a genuine question out of interest and curiosity such as "what is a turbo?" or say random stuff like "oh I really liked that wagon ferrari RS4 with vtech", well that person is about to get in a world of hurt! All of those "car guys" will bash on the newbie with insults and ridiculousness, while some may actually answer the questions. Males bash on one-another and they do the same to females. Where females need to have a different attitude is not take things personal the wrong way, nobody actually genuinely hate you, don't take offence and just quit, all of that bashing and radiculisation isn't sending that sort of message towards you females, but it's a standard challenge. A challenge for you to step up, learn, grow, improve, work, build, persevere, show your drive, show your strength, show your passion and earn respect for showing people that you are who you really are and who you really want to be. Do that and people, males will turn around and say "yeah! She rocks! She's awesome! She's the shit!" But if you cower away after some pressure.... well you are only helping that stereotype that "cars are not for girls".
Personally I'd just love to see more girls into the scene and I love, admire and respect those that do get into the scene. I've met, known and observed a few girls/women that are into car culture and what I have found in common between all of them is their strength, burning passion, drive and determination, regardless of what society may think or say about them, they don't give a single f**k about that. Their primary concern is their passion and what makes them happy. That is one of the things I admire about them. They are "speaking our language". On the flipside, those that argument and give up just because some people say bad things about them... are disappointing and sad... Step up! Show some guts! Don't give in to ignorants and haters.
That beings said, I too dream about a world with more females into the scene. They are missing out on so much awesomeness, so much glory. It's a pitty....

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Car events are full of females. Might be fewer drivers, but look around - the organisers, the people sorting out the tickets/gear, the flag marshals, even who is driving the tow vehicle home at the end of the day. It's not that there are few ladies involved, it's perhaps that they're mostly not chasing the limelight?

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I'm a father of two very different girls. My 17 year old has no interest in driving (herself) or cars in general. Definitely a girl with typical girl wants and desires. My 8 year old likes things pink, dolls, and loves kitty cats. But she also love to play sports and has a competitive edge. Albeit small at this age. And she likes to drive with me in my WRX. I came across a '55 first series 5 window Chevy pick up with no rust. Not having a boy I'm hoping she would like to be around me as I restore it. I can only be there for her if she ever wants to have a passion for cars like her dad.

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I'm a father of two very different girls. My 17 year old has no interest in driving (herself) or cars in general. Definitely a girl with typical girl wants and desires. My 8 year old likes things pink, dolls, and loves kitty cats. But she also love to play sports and has a competitive edge. Albeit small at this age. And she likes to drive with me in my WRX. I came across a '55 first series 5 window Chevy pick up with no rust. Not having a boy I'm hoping she would like to be around me as I restore it. I can only be there for her if she ever wants to have a passion for cars like her dad.

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jdmek Yes it's Jenna indeed!

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Taryn, very cool post!  I agree with everything you're saying.  Here's a super inspirational hot rodder that I think inspires men and women!  http://greasegirl.com/

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Ok, one more!  This teenage hot rodder is going for 200mph!  http://www.chasing200.com/

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Interesting topic, indeed the title should go, but the truth is it probably won't due to the fact that there are much fewer of them around. I find that I know very few women that do more than they say about cars.

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Huh? Are we reading the same article?!? All I see are women wearing casual clothes and although there are a few 'pose with the car-type shots', none of them seem provocative to me. I thought Taryn did a great job of picking shots that avoided this actually.

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@turbom @TJ I'm with TJ here - I've only really gone out with guys who are seriously into cars themselves. It makes it much easier when you don't have to explain why you've spent all your money on car parts!

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In my opinion and in my experience we should just accept people as people. We all have different hobbies and interests. Theirs boys who love fashion and doing there hair.

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@Mannu What do I get if I help you on this one?

 http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/CHARLIE.jpg

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Elusive*
Illusive means that it's like an illusion, whereas elusive means rarely seen or hard to find.

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VictorVanderpooten

You didn't speak about Michelle Mouton who won a lot of title with Audi at the age of the Group B

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SuzyWallace Where can I find women like you two?

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SuzyWallace Where can I find women like you two?

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is it me, or is every female car enthusiast in the photos hot???!

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You know what? I can count on one hand how many ladies I know that enjoy car culture of any sort, and that makes me sad.
It really doesn't help that at shows, races and other events involving cars there is usually some form of degrading element for our female counterparts. Whether that be scantily clad promo girls, grid girls or other things of a similar nature. I get annoyed with that. I'm there to look at automotive culture, not be bombarded by these poor girls being paraded around for blokes to basically gawp at. It makes it hard for women in the automotive world to be taken seriously. That's not right.

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You know what? I can count on one hand how many ladies I know that enjoy car culture of any sort, and that makes me sad.
It really doesn't help that at shows, races and other events involving cars there is usually some form of degrading element for our female counterparts. Whether that be scantily clad promo girls, grid girls or other things of a similar nature. I get annoyed with that. I'm there to look at automotive culture, not be bombarded by these poor girls being paraded around for blokes to basically gawp at. It makes it hard for women in the automotive world to be taken seriously. That's not right.

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@NigelPee 
Couldn't have said it any better then you! Although you worry me when you say "most liberal of varieties" when speaking about feminism. I hope you're not mixing up misandry with feminism because like you said, feminism is about equal rights.

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dangina Yep, I couldn't help but notice that also. Bit of a double standard to ask to be treated as equals while pointing out "how cute are we" at the same time.

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Wow, I love this article! I'm a big, huge chicken when it comes to driving, much less looping a place like GMR like my friends do, but I've caught up on a lot of things having to do with cars in order to support my boyfriend's hobby, and the inclusivity of this article is stellar.
Though some of the generalizations towards both men and women made me cringe, I LOVE how this article seems to constantly ask "Okay, there's a lack of women, so what can we DO about it?" rather than mull over the downsides of gender. This kind of awesome and progressive stance - asking guys to be more open/welcoming/enthusiastically educational with their female friends and partners - is so awesome.
I know that I wouldn't be into half of the things I love if it weren't for my dad, who pretty much raised me by himself. I hope that, just like him, guys within car enthusiasm will take on that role and be willing to answer questions/encourage more women to join in. Here's to lots and lots of positivity and more kickass drivers in your community. :)

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dangina it seems that they all are pretty hot, and the fact that they dig cars makes them hotter i guess.

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dangina it seems that they all are pretty hot, and the fact that they dig cars makes them hotter i guess.

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DecMcClure 
I agree, but this cars/motorsports isn't the only male dominated culture that has this problem. Just look at football, basketball, etc. I'm not making an excuse, just throwing out my observation.

IMO both men and women need to speak up about it. We can't just leave it to women to change it.

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My massive gear head daughter. My sister is also a massive gear head. A big part of the problem is the perpetuated myth that the only "car girls" are bikini models than stand next to the car.

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fifteen52_coneklr That is too cute :)

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@AGETE DecMcClure You are so right. We've all gotta do something.

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Hi dangina, I'd be lying if I said I didn't see this comment coming. When I put out the word on my Facebook page about wanting a collection of photos for this, I received over 200 images which was an overwhelming response! It was actually incredibly difficult to select which images to use, but I narrowed it down to those which included both quality photography and a variety of different women, all who I know are genuinely interested in cars. That's all it really is to it - please don't think anything more of it! :)

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Heck yeah! Great article Taryn.
I actually like it when I see or hear about a female petrolhead! 


Let there be more female petrolheads!

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So where is Vanina ?

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VictorVanderpooten Yes, I could go on for ages about other female drivers. Pat Moss was another!

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RensAdams Thanks for the compliment Rens! I've actually have been infected with the ring-worm since I visited the Ring when I was 17 for the first time. I've been driving it for 6 years now in different cars but never got noticed as just a good driver (I don't think I got noticed at all)..only as being a good driver "for a girl". (I'm not saying you're doing that same thing now btw, just for the record.) And that is exactly the problem I sometimes have with being a "female car enthusiast", if I do get noticed I'd rather get noticed for being a good driver without me being female having a thing to do with that. But then again...it's not really a problem for me. Most people who call me a good driver for a woman probably just mean it in the best way possible and don't mean to be sexist at all..they just don't meet that many women who are into fast cars and driving fast. So, in the meantime I'll just keep on doing what I love most and that is bwraaaaahp pphshshshsh :D

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KillerRaccoon Oh good spotting, I'll change that! Cheers

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@TROLLS ROYCE Obviouslyitssexist Wow a non-troll comment from TROLLS ROYCE. Well done.

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The One Otaku When I was 17 I hated cars and drove a Volkswagen new beetle - the ones with the vase with the Gerbera flower in it… So yeah, things can really change over time! Trust me!! :D

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Taryn Croucher You shouldn't admit to owning one of those!

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Interesting seeing this on SH - good questions Taryn! Growing up, no one ever told me I couldn't play with cars - they just never asked me to join them in the garage/track/etc. I see that beginning to change now... there are many more women actively involved in the automotive industry now than 10, 20, 30 years ago - and I think our mere presence as enthusiasts and automotive professionals will offer more of an example to those growing up now.

A couple years ago I was part of a SEMA build that the SEMA Busineswomen's Network did - and we didn't do it to "prove" we could or to say "hey, you should pay attention to us, we're girls"... but to be an example. Something that makes it evident that women are into cars and are active in the industry professionally and younger girls need to see that so, unlike me growing up, they see that cars as an option if they're interested in pursuing it. Hopefully one day, projects highlighting our gender won't be necessary ;)

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Interesting seeing this on SH - good questions Taryn! Growing up, no one ever told me I couldn't play with cars - they just never asked me to join them in the garage/track/etc. I see that beginning to change now... there are many more women actively involved in the automotive industry now than 10, 20, 30 years ago - and I think our mere presence as enthusiasts and automotive professionals will offer more of an example to those growing up now.

A couple years ago I was part of a SEMA build that the SEMA Busineswomen's Network did - and we didn't do it to "prove" we could or to say "hey, you should pay attention to us, we're girls"... but to be an example. Something that makes it evident that women are into cars and are active in the industry professionally and younger girls need to see that so, unlike me growing up, they see that cars as an option if they're interested in pursuing it. Hopefully one day, projects highlighting our gender won't be necessary ;)

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@TROLLS ROYCE Re. Maria de Villota, most definitely! Could have made that list much longer. Re. the other stuff, I'm so glad to hear my writing has that effect on you! And Elizabeth has left the team, sorry!

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The One Otaku Daughters make great car buddies! I have an 11yo boy who is completely disinterested in working on cars but is in information goldmine, 6yo boy who is kinda into cars and an 8yo girl who lights up whenever anything is going on. Changing oil, wiring up fog lights, she's in to it. Enjoy your daughter car time :)

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I believe that this article is a great read for anyone, and that this is true that parents and other people have already set there children to think that boys should be a certain way and girls should be a certain way. I am 12 and I am a boy, I read Speedhunters everyday and I would say that my whole life is based around cars. The only reason why I am into cars is because my dad had a 2004 Subaru WRX STI and I would always clean the car and it was my favorite car. But I can not thank Speedhunters enough for showing me car culture from all over the world and letting me see how truly cool Japanese and other countries car culture really is and how loyal some people are.

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JennaVanHezewijk Love this input! So jealous of your time at the Ring too… I would LOVE to drive an MX-5 there… I think that has just become my new life goal :)

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jdmek thank you too :)

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This article is like a job interview to finding my perfect girlfriend HAHAH It's awesome when women get involved in all kinds of motorsports. I remember when my sister used to race gokarts against my cousins and me everybody was truly impressed, but she saw it as normal and actually kicked ass out there!

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Taryn Croucher You're welcome for the input :) And you're more than welcome to come over and I'll take you for a couple of laps and show you the way around the Ring, and sit beside you and guide you through your first laps! I know I am a very lucky girl to be living this close to the Ring and being able to go there when I like. Actually the first time I drove a mx-5 was on Laguna Seca...best..day..ever...

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SuzyWallace Yeah, that could have saved me an argument or two... but like Taryn's acticle points out, you are in the minority.

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I have seen you drive the ring a whole lot better than most in that carpark. Myself included.

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JennaVanHezewijk I got to do my first two laps a couple of months ago and it was crazy! Only in a Rent 4 Ring Swift, but holy shit it was cool! I'm determined to moved to Europe next year and build a track car, so maybe we can do some laps together. :D

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I find that trying to get more of a certain group into a certain activity (a recruitment drive I you will) works well in theory, but in practice however, it mostly ends up shitting on the people not in that group.

I do believe that no one should feel left out of something because of their gender, but I do think that focusing an issue like this on gender will do no help as it isn't a gendered issue in my opinion, it is just that there are not enough being done in general to get more people into cars, such as the many campaigns I have seen that are doing their best to reduce the number of drivers by pricing them out and tightening rules all in the name of eco-friendliness and efficiency. (this is going purely by what I have seen/heard/done)

In terms of role models, I find it easier to judge them on merit, personality and achievement before gender, fair enough feeling the need to relate to someone, but surely said role models ideals and personality should be higher up the list than if they have a meat and two veg or not.

You want to know which group of people really need more role models in car culture? no one. there are certainly enough good people out there doing enough good things in enough areas of car culture that damn near everyone will have someone to look up to.

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I believe there are a lot of women or younger girls who are interested in cars or the automotive culture. But maybe there is a psychological barrier most of them have to break trough. When I look around my own environment I notice most girls don't talk about it, but keep staring at a picture of a car passing by. So it looks they are interested, but it doesn't come up in a conversation. 

Maybe it's because of the difference when growing up. Girls get a lot of grily toys like Barbie or even make-up these days. That won't trigger their automotive interests. I don't have a solid explanation for it, but that's why I think most of the people in the industry are men. Which is a shame, because women and girls who are into cars make a welcome change in the scene in my opinion.

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Why the need to homogenise us into one social, biological blob? This "why can't we all just get along" talk is redundant in a culture that's about individuality. 
Ideas and people clash.

The reason we have icons, is because they were brave enough to be who they are. We celebrate their individuality. Because they form their own opinions, and provide a different perspective that's new and exciting.
You should embrace your identity.  Own it, and let it form your opinions. Let it influence your style and builds. Share that with us and add to the richness of the culture. 
Leave all this gender specific/social reform nonsense alone. You may have to accept the fact that you are a minority in your gender and passion. It's part of your identity, and shouldn't need correcting. It may even make you special.

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ChrisDavy With all do respect, I feel that a lot of what you are saying could be applied to men as well as women. There WILL be times when it takes a guy to sit down, take a deep breath and take in that there are females out there that have taken the time and studied this hobby enough to hold their own. The struggle happens when it's assumed that we, women, don't know, need help or can't handle a little rejection or banter. When we do joke around or stand up for ourselves, we get put in the "weird" or "sensitive" category..."must be that time of the month." How original. I could come up with a hundred more ass-hat explanations that would "speak your language". Lol!

I will say that I am not an expert when it comes to mechanics, but I am involved and continue to try and learn as much as possible. However, I DO know my way around body work, paint and fiberglass. I can't count the times a guy couldn't handle that so instead of hearing what I had to say and show, just decided to discount it all and moved on to a male; then proceeded to make fun of me so he felt better about himself. Sure I'll grab the bull by the horns, but judging a book by its cover is a mistake period. That's where guys will find the majority of us acting, in male terms, "bitchy" or we will walk away because it's not worth the argument. If respect was given on both sides, I'm sure reactions to situations would be different. Just my .02.

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JDMDONG best ever username

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Taryn Croucher dangina Chuck Palahniuk wrote in Invisible Monsters that photographers will take a less attractive girl, and put them in a dirty, industrial environment to make them appear prettier through the lens (something about the juxaposition) . I don't know if that is true, but it has always come to mind when seeing industrial shoots now.

There is science behind finding someone more attractive when they share your interests, just chalk it up to that. :)

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i love this article. the only thing i would disagree with is there needing to be an influencer. some women are generally born with the interest in all types of motorsports.

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DebraMustangDebPotts this is my favorite comment!! :)

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ScottDean0 I would have to, respectably, disagree with some of your opinions and endeavor to impart with you some of my own. First of all, I think saying that there is no gender issue here is simply ignoring the numbers. From your point of you, it may seem like a 95% male demographic is simply a matter of interest. Girls are simply not interested in hobbies involving automobiles. I'm not convinced of this, however. I think it has a lot to do with nurture (external influencers). Without the exposure, regardless of male or female, a person is probably not going to become interested in a particular activity. As it stands, the automotive industry has a certain amount of machismo surrounding it and girls have very little opportunity to thrive when most of their friends are likely more interested in shopping or other activities. I certainly would not have gotten into the car culture if I did not already have friends who were intersted. They, in turn, would not be interested if their dad didn't take them aside and work on cars together on the weekends. I think the bottom line is less about recruitment and more about exposure. Allow, no, Encourage the option to be out there and see what happens.

I can agree, somewhat, on your stance on role models. They should certainly be judged based on merit. But I think it's hard to have a role model that you do not relate to in some way. A shared personal struggle, such as being female in a male dominated hobby, is the perfect way to relate to someone and inspire others to follow.

I hate to bring up the race/gender card but I feel like I would be leaving something out if I didn't. But imagine, if you will, living in a world where no one encouraged you to get behind the wheel and hoon. All motorsports are dominated by black women (I may be wrongly assuming you are a white male by your picture, if so, please adjust my generalization to whatever is the exact opposite of you.) Do you think this would still be an activity you would engage yourself with? Personally, it would be difficult for me to relate to the group and I would probably be intimidated if I did not have friends guiding me into it. I hope this argument/example doesn't devolve into something based on race. I just wanted to make a point that if you don't relate to the people in the community then it's harder, as an individual, regardless of gender to jump in.

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My girlfriend has always been into cars, mostly of the old american muscle verity. But aside from her step father, who is off traveling for work a lot, she never really had anyone to talk to about them. That is until a friend brought her into our group. I own an STi and my friends are all car people and own something cool, like an S2000, Evo X, a restored CRX and several modified Civics. We all dream of building our cars and going to different events around the world. It's almost all we talk about when we hang out. And we are all hoons. So it's kind of hard not to catch our disease when you're dating one of us. Since coming around us she has really gotten into the Japanese side of the car scene. She loves STis and R35s and is attempting to sell her Focus so she can get an FR-S and begin modifying it. She has asked me for help looking for parts and ideas for her soon to be baby and I am more than happy to help. She wants an exhaust for it first thing and she wants me and a friend to install it for her. I have no problem with this but I'm going to try and get her to do it with me instead so she can learn even more and maybe get her out of her comfort zone. The fact that she is already into cars is awesome, I'm just trying to nurture it into the type of passion I have. You have no idea how happy it makes me that my significant other is into modifying cars, drifting and going to car shows and races with me. And she might still just like looking at muscle cars if she hadn't met us, and sat around listening to us babble on about cars for hours and watching youtube videos, or gone hooning around in the snow or even gone to the big car shows around our area with me. She is still learning and forming her own opinions of whats cool and whats not, but she is getting there. And I love it.

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There is an awesome female pairing in the rallying world (one of many may I add).  Swedish driver Ramona Karlsson and co-driver Miriam Walfridsson have competed in WRC and do very well.  Ramona is currently competing in rallycross at the top level in a Peugeot.

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@TJ ChrisDavy I totally get what you are saying. Respect should go both ways. Also it is truly unfortunate and I feel sorry about the fact that there are loads of guys on this planet that would rather act out like some primitive apes due to poor education, insecurities, ignorance etc instead of using reason, kindness, decency etc. Unfortunately I know and am surrounded by quite a few of these "apes" that would rather use dumb-retarded stereotypes rather than think for themselves. From that point of view I'd like to apologize on behalf of the male population.
That being said, you have to realize that there are still some fundamental issues between us genders, where most men are the "I need this, I take what I need and get the job done" type, quite a few women are the "Have no idea what they want, why, where, how, when, but they know that if they don't get it, they're gonna be really mad about whatever it is they don't know that they want", not very practical for lots of situations. But I'm not gonna go into details about that 'cause it's not really the point.
Also the fact is that percentage-wise the female population involved in the car world and industry is indeed low. A simple exercise can prove my point, get a list of workshops in a town and see how many are ran/owned by women or how many women technicians work there.
Finding girls/women with the same kind of "car enthusiast" smell as boys/men is still generally hard.
Now to find a woman that is a car enthusiast and a technician as yourself, now that's really rare!
Personally I always try my best to look past stereotypes and set standards and treat everyone as equal as possible. I would really love to see more women/girls being involved into the scene, own/drive/build cars, have workshops and what not.

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I wanna hug you Taryn soooo much
Great article, wonderful points brought up and awesome message. Really kind of sucks that I'm not around any women who are really in to cars at all, I hate the fact that motorsports have been made this male-stereotyped, testosterone-fuelled industry.

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Dominic Toretto: It starts with the eyes. She's gotta have those kind of eyes that can look right through the bullshit, to the good in someone. 20% angel, 80% devil. Down to earth. Ain't afraid to get a little engine grease under her fingernails.

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I have always worked on my cars I'm only 21 have done head gasket on my rs gsr done all 4 wheelbeerings so many oil changes got a 97 wrx now and just replaced the inlet gaskets and I'm ready to learn more
Thanks from a big help from mac's automotives nelson New Zealand

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Going off those photos all women that like cars are rather fit!

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Lisa Kubo should be added as a role model.

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Forgot about Michèle Mouton? Like the I.T. industry, the car scene is male dominated (unfortunately), but it is great to see females not being put off by the male dominance. I'd like to see way more females taking up our hobby and sport. Plus it does make them more attractive :P (like a guy who can cook is more attractive to the ladies?).

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God shut the fuck up. I'm tired of women acting like they need a social mandate in order for their culture to change. It DOSNT matter what sex you are. I'm tired of these second rate chicks (not always the case) being held up on a pedestal for the slightest of interest in the automotive field despite complete lack of actual interest outside of how many likes they get. Shut the fuck up. Women can do whatever the fuck they want. This isn't 1952. Nobody is stopping you. In fact my parents hated cars and welding and I did it against all opposition. But we don't sit here and whine about how nobody taught us! Every dad, grandfather, etc would be stoked for such interest. Its your choice. Take some god damn ownership over what YOU like and quit acting like society is solely responsible for what people are interested in. Its your choice. Take some responsibility for it.

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@TROLLS ROYCE a firm handshake lol.

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This is a great article and touches some points that I feel most over look. I don't have a huge review or anything but I did deeply enjoy reading this and seeing a lot of the girls I actually follow on Instagram or fb. I never had anyone to look up to or show me the ropes and I would always keep my passion a secret in highschool, but then I got too deep into it that is was impossible to keep a secret. Haha I never had friends into cars, my dad and brother weren't into them, I don't even think I saw one that had inspired me, I'm not a huge girlie girl but I'm no tomboy either. I am just overly passionate about anything car related. Again, love the article and love seeing and following more girls who are legit passionate about them. :)

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JennaVanHezewijk

Aah that is awesome! And it's good to start with a car with not too many bhp, makes you learn the track as a better driver because you don't want to use the brakes! If you're moving here and building a track car sounds to me you're on the right path of living your dreams! Send me a pb on fb if you want to do some laps some day. Or maybe come find me at Breidscheid :)

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JennaVanHezewijk

Aah that is awesome! And it's good to start with a car with not too many bhp, makes you learn the track as a better driver because you don't want to use the brakes! If you're moving here and building a track car sounds to me you're on the right path of living your dreams! Send me a pb on fb if you want to do some laps some day. Or maybe come find me at Breidscheid :)

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JennaVanHezewijk

Practice makes perfect :) I still have a lot to learn though but I'm having fun out there!

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Yeah Pat Moss is a legend. Whole family is.

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Yeah Pat Moss is a legend. Whole family is.

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I had the privilege of working as engineering and pit crew for Cindi Lux in 2005-2006.  She took second in the SCCA T1 Nationals that year and set records all over the country.  You guys should cover a Rose Cup race in Portland, OR one of these years.
http://www.cindilux.com

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It seem to me that when ever a female owner's car is posted on here (and many other car websites) she normally seems to be included on the photos with the car.

In majority of male build there are only photos of the car, and none of the owner

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It seem to me that when ever a female owner's car is posted on here (and many other car websites) she normally seems to be included on the photos with the car.

In majority of male build there are only photos of the car, and none of the owner

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Until last week I was a VW/Audi/Porsche/BMW/Mercedes parts guy. I dealt with a LOT more women than I ever thought I would in that job. Maybe it's the scenes Speedhunters looks at, but I dealt with a lot of female VW/Audi enthusiasts. In fact my favorite car owned by one of my customers was a Corrado G60-powered VW Rabbit owned and built by a young, talented woman. I personally know a lot of female VW/Audi fans, and through Instagram I've been connected with another talented young woman restoring a Ford Falcon... She's going to school for auto-tech and auto body, and she is a straight up foxy Pinup model.
Motorsports don't seem to draw women*, but in my experience there are more women than you'd expect drawn to the creative side of cars- the art of the build. 
*Of course, as the article shows there are women in motorsports, but I think as a proportion of the interested population way more tend to wind up on the custom-car side, rather than the racecar side.

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Great post Taryn, the amount of girls around the globe that stop at a difficulty is def increasing, like you; I didn't start off into cars until about 4 years ago where my boyfriend at the time taught me the basics of the car world we get here in Auckland. Its not always easy working on your own cars or able to determine the faults in it.. But I believe surrounding yourself with people who support the same dreams, passion and share the same determination will get you far in the industry. On the other side, there is a few girls who do this simply for the attention and fame whereas I'd like to see more girl car enthusiasts that are passionate about what they do. With the right path that each woman can gather on their own, I'm sure there is alot of hidden gems inside garages all over the world :) Thank you so much for everything you have done for us and it is absolutely amazing to see our photo up on an international site!

- Charlie & the Team @ Turbosmart

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Taryn Croucher dangina
its ok, keep them posts coming! I'm all for more people getting involved in motorsports

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Where is mention of Emma Gilmour, an NZ lady competing in GRC Rallycross and homegrown rallies in a custom built turbo Suzuki Swift!

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so many unicorns!! :D (all jokes aside, good to see the better 50% represented <3)

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Bear Dellinger would be a great example for a strong female role model.

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Everyone on this website has a cleaner car than me. *sigh*

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Everyone on this website has a cleaner car than me. *sigh*

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Kristin Cline If you're really interested in something you shouldn't need someone else to involve you in that.

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Why do we need to actively "recruit" women to cars? Why does there need to be more women who like cars? If women like cars there is nothing stopping them from participating.  It seems most of these kinds of articles only look at the fact that women aren't into cars as much as men and find something wrong with that.  I don't really understand why.

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PS, add Claudia Hürtgen to the list!! (we may recall her as one of Edward Sandstrom's FIA GT3 codrivers with Schubert Racing in the Saudi Falcons BMW Z4 and others)

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truley amazing love the way its written and the whole nine yards keep going i hope to be a speedhunter as i get out of highschool

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Why is it that women always want to make themselves stand out in a male dominated sport/industry/hobby? Who cares if you're a woman, if you like cars then that's fine, and if you're called a female car enthusiast, why worry, it's exactly what you are. Do you think male nurses hate always being referred to as male nurses rather than just a nurse, no, probably not.

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I only skimmed the article but there are tons of female car enthusiast and role models out there. They just rarely get any coverage. And idk if Michèle Mouton was mentioned.

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I think it's just disinterest.. Cars are for whoever enjoys them, no one is saying otherwise! (I guess I don't speak for everyone) 

But really, in a literal sense no one is stopping women from liking and enjoying cars, I don't know why this post was necessary. Kinda just made me upset that they all have way nicer cars than me, haha... 

To me this is for nothing more than attention, no offence. If you really enjoy cars that much, you won't, and shouldn't care what others think. Do what YOU want to do.

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Taryn Croucher You're rare, trust me....most girls that meet a car guy don't change themselves to accept his hobby, they want to change him and have him lose interest in the hobby. Has happened to most of my mates and it truly is sad....sad that women are like that and sad that men will weaken so easily.

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Taryn, 


re: Gamer Gate, what member of the SpeedHunters staff are you offering sexual favors to in order to get this tripe published?

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AlexandreBerthiaume

You do whatever you want, whatever or whoever you are, Some girls like racing, some boys like cooking. if someone don't understand stop living like in middle age

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@Anonymous Ghost Stupid comment is stupid

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Really Speedhunters? Just wow...... EASILY the stupidest article ive read on this site. Who gives a f#@! if there arent as many women in the car scene as men?? And wanting to 'recruit' more??
What is this shit guys?? As always females feel the need to jump up and down and make some noise.
And as for the women shown in these photos, all of them are attractive. Where are all the bushpigs at huh? Or dont the fit in..
Honestly guys this is rediculous.
Penis/vagina who cares we all share the same passion, why bring sexes into it.

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Stupid comment? Yeh maybe, but anon is right. Clearly she has an issue and is using SH to voice it.

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JoshTracey Yea but woman are going to get attention from men if they didn't we would die out as a species. I suppose male dominated past times would be more intimidating for a girl compared to a male doing a female dominated past time. Like we have all seen it on the internet you have a girl gets her car featured you will get lads literally asking in the comments to marry them or you'll get the down right sexist comments (Like I seen a comment asking if there was a kitchen in the back of an rx7 on a youtube video ). Girls simply do not want that sort attention. Where as a male in a female dominated past time would love the female attention.

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AlexandreBerthiaume

@Anonymous Ghost WOW!  you're proud to know your Mom isn't proud about you

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Kwabena Asamoah

I don't use social media, and I'm not about to register for a site I am going to stop viewing. 

Do you actually have something constructive to say, or are you going to pretend the pussy pass isn't a real thing?

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Everyone is going to have an opinion on this topic, so I'll add mine. 

I, myself, don't like Danica Patrick, but it is not because she is a woman, it is because of the marketing that I normally see her in. I remember the commercial with her playing video games beating young boys and pointing out that they got "beat by a girl." I grew up in the 80-90s and I hear this line all the time, but when I talk to friends we all agree that we know women are equal and when I was in school the person who I wanted to cheat off of was always a girl because they were always the smartest people in class. It was almost never a guy who we wanted to copy off of. So my point is that I think the idea that a majority of guys in generation Y think that women are not equal is not apt. I'm not saying that there are not some, but I just don't think that it is a vast majority.

To women in motorsport. I posted before that in drag racing there are many women. It has been that way for decades. To the question of Speedhunters readership and its less than 5% women demographic, I have zero answers for that as that is a business question for your publication as for how to energize more female readership. 

This article was written concerning women in the import, stance world among others. At least from the pictures and the statement "the huge explosion of drift and stance culture" I came to that conclusion. If I am wrong, please correct me on that. My reason for pointing this out is that every car genre or type of car group has its exposed norms and groups that are underrepresented. I'm a muscle car guy, mustangs primarily, and in that community there are many perceived norms that are accepted in that group that if deviated can start a flame war. Something as simple as an Obama sticker on a window in a picture can quickly start insults because there is a preseved notion online in mustang forums that the accepted political party is the republican party. This "norm" is literally ridiculous, but it persists. So every genre of cars has its underrepresented people and perhaps anger towards certain views.

So to your overall question and concern "The fact that women are the minority in this male-dominated industry, and it’s a fact that everyone just seems to accept and not really do anything about."

I don't know exactly what you would want us the readers to do about this? I say this because I am not here to grow the enthusiast community, I'm on here simply to look at cool cars that other people are building. This site for me is like my car tumblr--without the porn (well, some builds can easily fit into that category), but to me this site is art. I support this belief by pointing out that it seems like all or most of the staff have to have a background in photography (for obvious reasons), but it seems like a person who is knowledgable about cars etc. it seems that it is not enough to become a Speedhunter unless you also own an expensive camera and know how to take great pictures, so art. On this site, I get to see how other people came to different solutions to the same problems. It inspires me to see how different people express themselves thought their cars. Because my desires on this site are of an individualistic ideal and focus. I do not see how I or a person like me can fix a community at large. Plainly because I come to this site to see the pictures of cars. If the pictures are intriguing/if the car is intriguing, I will read the text to find out more—I may even comment. Because cars are so individualistic, in what we buy and what we do with them I don't know if we as enthusiasts can change the fact that the industry is male dominated. Perhaps if you are on forums, or clubs, or some other place where you can interact and rely upon others as a group then yes, it is possible to change that culture, but a person like me who just comes here, what can I do? I am involved or tied into many racing teams, some of which have had women drivers, and the focus is always on the car and the team. How to go faster, how to make the car faster, how to meet this particular mark, etc., etc.. It has never been focused on changing the industry, it has simply been focused on performance. I guess if there are people who are looking down at women owners/drivers because they are women then those people are idiots and ignorant. However, the name "woman" before owner or driver may always exists when there are a small minority of people, just like in some settings I will still be referred to by the word "black" before "guy".

I would like to know about the title and the word "Banishing." I have read the article twice and I don't see where there is a mention of this group (presumably men) are "banishing women" or ostracizing them from joining the car community? I ask because I just do not see any mention to this in the article, other than the first paragraph that points out that it was meant to get our attention. So is that in there? is it inferred? or was it simply used as a device to make your point of people referring to women as "women driver/enthusiast?" 

I just want to point out the obvious that I am not a woman so I have no idea how it feels like to be in your shoes; so in no way am I bashing or disparaging a point of view or the article. The above is simply questions or comments that I had to the article and your overall question of how to change the car industry.

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AlexandreBerthiaume

Taryn isn't going to sleep with you. Lets be clear on that one. 

Dude, It is an article full of tits and ass. Clear skin and perfect teeth. Taryn is exploting the exact process you are calling me amoral for pointing out.

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@Beany A big start would be not booking the models and the bikini contests etc at car events. Yes it may have been neat to see when I was 18 but personally I try to avoid them nowadays. Even more so since I had a daughter.  They do nothing for the car scene and perpetuate a very bad stereotype. But I'm that rare guy I guess, that goes to car events to pay attention to cars.

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AlexandreBerthiaume

MatthewBortot ridiculus your reaction is and ridiculous it make you looks

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MatthewBortot

Penis or Vagina I do care. Men tend to not introduce this bullshit.

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Men aren't stopping women from being automotive enthusiasts, women's lack of interest in things like cars is the problem.  Nothing remotely novel about that concept.  This isn't an article about feminism or breaking into a male-dominated area, this is an article about rising above what society says you should do as a woman.  How can you have any interest in cars as a female if your
other female friends have no interest and can't imagine why you would
either?  I'm a guy, so I can't relate to that, but I can relate to being
an outcast in guy-land for not having any interest in football
(American football), baseball, gaming, etc.  I have few female friends in the automotive community, but my other female friends were not told that they couldn't enter the automotive clubhouse because they were women.  They just don't have any interest in cars.

The
automotive community is just a reflection of the other mechanical and
technical career fields (science/technology/engineering/math, "STEM" to
use the popular term), all of which are underrepresented by women.  Get
more women interested in technical fields, and more will be interested
in technical hobbies like cars.  Fix the cause, not the symptoms. As
a side note, I don't like the use of "automotive industry" in this
article because many/most people in the enthusiast community don't
actually work in any automotive-related industry. Part of the appeal is that anyone can do it, even if they work in advertising or marketing.

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JDMDONG JoshTracey I agree with you it's just the fact that, she's talking about on a massive scale, I meant this post on speed-hunters was Most likely) to gain attention to her and her friends. At least that's what it looks like considering there's an attractive, young girl in every photo on this post.

She can still get attention if she wants from probably anyone, online or offline, considering she is "attractive".

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AlexandreBerthiaume

They! have been in our shadow for too much long! and by the way just remember who did the first car trip?

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It's not for lack of the media trying Tyrn, take a look at the fast and furious series. Always had a very strong female as equal messege. In pro racing fema'll es that rise to the top are promoted more heavily then male counter parts. It's really viewing women as different then men and even mentioning it out loud that creates a divide. It shouldn't bementioned. Work and achievements should speak for themselves, despite sex or race (noticeable lack of "black" car enthusiasts on this site.....).
This article is really a step backwards.
Also that yellow evo looks bad ass

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@Fabrik8

No, what you are doing is saying we should use social pressure to encourage people that don't have an innate interest in cars to get involved so they will receive outside validation. 

This is stupid. 

Nobody gets really good at anything because of social pressure, they get by. People that go out 4 nights a week risking dismemberment and death aren't doing it because their friends are interested in driving. They are doing it because they themselves are interested. 

There is an racing saying. You can't teach somebody how to be fast, but you can teach them how to be consistent. Think about that in relation to what you are saying.

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@TROLLS ROYCE I understand that Speedhunters budget was cut dramatically and EA corporate and beancounters said it is now in "maintenance mode" so its going to be rehashed and uninteresting stories that don't require anything more than sitting around making stuff up - a sad ending to a once promising site.  

Ms. White certainly added much in terms interest and substance - but now look at the site - nothing from Linhbergh, Paddy, Sean, Ben - even tho they are listed.  And look at who is gone.....

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Interesting subject. I don't think we can do anything to kinda recruit more females to be passionate about cars. Things change at the pace societies change, it takes time. I can say for Thailand, the country I live in, that there is an increasing interest by females in car culture, social media is helping a lot. I personally follow and know more female racing drivers than males, I find them more refreshing and interesting.

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Interesting article, and some interesting comments.
As a bunch of other people have mentioned, I think one of the best things any of us can DO to help build the culture is to introduce it to as many young people as possible, gender aside.
One of my earliest childhood memories is going car shows with my dad, and literally "counting the tailpipes to see how fast the car could go..." I have to imagine that, if we had gone to horse tracks instead, my interests might be slightly different.
If you're a car enthusiast with children of your own (your kids are the lucky ones with the direct connection), encourage your kids to invite a friend or two along to various car related activities (if it's manageable).
If you don't have children of your own, but have friends or family who do, invite them out to a show, meet, track day, etc. Parents are always looking for stuff to do with their kids. Or just offer to take kid(s) with you for the day, give the parents a break lol. Then, when you've got them, TALK about cars.
All it takes is a spark :).

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Is this really the only story you are posting today - Nothing new here to see - move on....... sad to see Speedhunters fall so far so fast......

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NFWreally Between this and the endless rocketbunny kits I gave up on this place today. Indeed, so sad.

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@Anonymous Ghost I don't remember saying that we should use social pressure to do anything.  I'm simply stating why things are like they are from my point of view, in the context of the article.  It's your choice to infer or conclude anything else that you desire.

It's not a mystery to me why more women aren't in this hobby.

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@Anonymous Ghost 
Ugh, amen to the endless RocketBunny kits...

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Citrus Hey Citrus- Great example!  I have also done a race as Cindi's engineer and she rocks the house.  Her life's work is teaching driving and racing and she is an excellent role model to all aspiring women in motorsports.Who can't respect a woman that can wheel a 600hp Viper with all the boys? .

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Maaaaannn i remember wen SH featured the cars we all slobered over, in depth articles about the car not some 'artistic' crap about the journey... Now its all advertising and 'the scene' with the odd half decent article about a balls to the wall car.
Dooooownhill from here i rekon...

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As the father of 2 beautiful girls, this is a subject close to my heart. My oldest started go kart racing when she was 4 years old.  While we had to stop when she was 8, she got a great taste of the fun to be had in Motorsports.  Fast forward to age 15, and while she hasn't gone headfirst into the whole car scene yet, she has an interest in driving and has proven to have more skill than most...and can drive a manual transmission like a champ!  We will be heading to the autocrosses and rally crosses next year.  And the 10 year old?  She's my crew chief when I go racing..starting when she was 8.


Bottom line is this: engaging them at a young age and nurturing any interest will most likely pay dividends down the road.  And for those women and girls coming to the party later?  Embrace them, teach them and introduce them to other role models (racers, builders, drifter etc.) that can make them feel like achievement is possible, just like their male counterparts.

Start them young!

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Omer (beercoozie)

What about Shirley Muldowney and John Force's daughters?

Women in motorsport is more than Danica Patrick

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clevernamehere Kristin Cline Yes, agreed... when you love something, you love something and do all you can to immerse yourself in it. But first you need to know it actually exists... which I eventually found on my own... but by that time I had already worked my way through college with a biology degree. If I would have been introduced to automotive earlier I would have done a few things different.

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Omer (beercoozie)

Sorry, I re-read your article and saw you mention Sabine Schmitz and Susie Wolff.
I just feel that too often Danica Patrick is cited as an example of women in motorsport.
Drag Racing has had other women achieve success in its various forms.

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@Anonymous Ghost - I notice on Taryn's Instagram - between all her bathing suit pictures - that the Editor In Chief is your Significant Other...... sad ... really sad......

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I love it when I see other females enjoying cars as much as I do! I was raised around cars and speed. I enjoy the thrill of tracking and wish more women embraced the love of this sport.

I applaud the author for her article, for bringing to light a subject that isn't really thought of as an issue. I too would love to see a female dominated automotive sport. Where the women are applauded and appreciated for their driving skills and abilities, not just on the model based media photos and articles that focus on her sexuality rather than her driving skills (never saw a male driver in a tight fitting sprawled across his race car), or whether or not she is capable of handling her vehicle on the track with the other drivers (who just happen to be male). One day it will be different. It will take a small quiet movement, but it can be done. We just have to keep striving to create a world that doesn't see differences between the sexes, one that merely focuses on the abilities of great drivers who love their machines!

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gosh this site is lame it's all drifting,stance and whatever else is easy to photograph...this site has been taken over by photographers. Show me some suspension of a btcc car taken with a cell phone camera , show me something interesting and get rid of these artists running the site

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AirLift_Brian

My father did this for me! I applaud you for inspiring these young enthusiasts!

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Off-topic the photos quality is less than usually, it's hurt my eyes. :p

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Intentions are good I understand what the message is...... but not all of us female car enthusiasts are models.....

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HeatherSabin

Most of my female friends who enjoy cars are not models either...lol

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SadReally

HAHAHAH NAILED IT!

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SadReally

Beautiful.

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@Anonymous Ghost SadReally You didn't nail anything. (is this the source of your frustration?) Taryn was writing for Speedhunters long before Peter joined the team. He got the job because he was sleeping with her, not the other way around.

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@Anonymous Ghost SadReally You didn't nail anything. (is this the source of your frustration?) Taryn was writing for Speedhunters long before Peter joined the team. He got the job because he was sleeping with her, not the other way around.

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James1010 

This isn't about who has the job. This is about who approves the copy to be published... and there is an obvious conflict of interest.

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@Kart Works Most of them are #IAMTHESPEEDHUNTER submissions, they are usually lower quality than the photos taken by the sh writers.

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@Fabrik8

"How can you have any interest in cars as a female if your other female friends have no interest and can't imagine why you would either?"


Group affirmation and validation. Social pressure. 


Making your own path doesn't mean you need an article like this to knock you off the fence.

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There's definitely a shortage of us with an interest in cars because of our upbringing and lack of opportunities to get into cars, but it's also because many women are met with great hostility from our male counterparts. 


Many women feel discouraged because they've dealt with so many disrespectful guys.  I certainly know not all guys are like that, but it's definitely a factor.  And while it is true you do have to have a bit of thick skin because criticism can be harsh in the car world, nobody should be run off because of their gender. Guys should try to be welcoming and supportive, and then more women would take genuine interest. 

Combine lack of exposure with that and you've got your answer for "where are the women."

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E. Spears

Why should we change for you, princess?

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E. Spears

Why should we change for you, princess?

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Got to start early! Surely there's a 'Petrolhead Gene' that gets passed on? My daughter seems to have it :)

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@Anonymous Ghost
There is no need to change there is just something called respect.

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@Anonymous Ghost. Either just a hater or a troll. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. If you can't decide by the title whether you want to read the article or not then just GTFO.

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@Anonymous Ghost James1010 That was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek response to your neanderthallic attitude. As for the reason this article got published. It got published because it needed to be published, and blatantly sexist posts like yours and the rest of the crap being spewed out by MRAs just go to prove it.

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Perhaps part of the issue can be found in your editorial above...
In all those pics, not one of the girls pictured is above a size 8????
I have a few female friends who are into their cars and don't like to be associated with stereotypes such as the above..
Food for thought???

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theyarenotreallyintocars

Charlie Lam is just a lame pro ho who is only "sponsored" because of how she looks and dresses, she is not taken seriously by anybody in the car scene.

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Taryn, given my experience is largely based in the vintage bimmer cumminity... my favorite are the husband and wife teams.

Terry and Debbie Sayther (their business card literally has a cartoon of the two of them)
http://www.austinmotorscene.com/bmws-austin-and-terry-sayther-just-go-together/

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DeanRoofieCarr There's much I would like to discuss about this article starting from the pictures chosen to the basic topic of the whole thing, but I agree with you on this. I've met one female technician in particular with much knowledge and the ability to apply it to the job, but they did not fit the, dare I say, "Pretty girl" appearance.  Now in my opinion this girl was attractive and very thin ,but I'm into the more tougher chicks so... haha she was a tough smart chick, but she was widely considered a tomboy by others along with herself. So yes, the article is not something I could hold credible to something that is actually a worthwhile topic. But yea man I agree, I think these pictures sparked up much of these comments hahah

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@Anonymous Ghost This comment is perfect reflection of attitudes in society, and exactly what this article actually tries to challenge/change/promote more open ideals.. funnily enough lol. I guess you missed all that...

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@Anonymous Ghost This comment is perfect reflection of attitudes in society, and exactly what this article actually tries to challenge/change/promote more open ideals.. funnily enough lol. I guess you missed all that...

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This is what, the first article of its kind? And look at the male-army come in on the offensive with their poor shallow egos flared up for no apparent reason "hurr durr did you have sex with the editor to get this published?" hahaha

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SVOFANATIC You missed His point. Guys ALWAYS make you prove yourself when you enter into a respective community, be it cars, video game, or sports. 

The reality is that many times what girls consider "disrespectful" or "gender biased rudeness" is nothing more than guys doing what guys do...friendly, competitive/comradely ball busting, teasing. 

However, unlike most males, who instinctively give back as good as they get, most females expect and demand the whole culture change to accommodate them rather than recognize THEY are the outsider and need to assimilate, or just blow the guys off and start a auto culture that caters more to the female ideal.

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shezzzhot Nobody is stopping them, in fact women are being given every pass possible to do so. but they don't. No matter what anyone says, the fact of the matter is females who truly enjoy cars and have the ability and knowledge to work on and race them are far and few in between. Most girls simply could care less about cars PERIOD.

This article is the equivalent of asking why a cross dresser or tranny isn't called a woman. Female car enthusiast are identified by their gender because they are just that rare...and happen to be women.

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What we need more of in any car scene ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0spFY1I2NQ

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dadecode SVOFANATIC Pretty much!! When you work in a shop, you are use to getting shit talked and teased as guys would expect from their close friends, that's how it is and I can see it would take thin skinned folk by surprise, boys and girls alike. I have worked alongside females who can out do me and ones who will bitch over nothing. If females who cannot handle tough shit verbally or physically then there's other ways around it. You can't complain until it magically happens, and again I know there's guys on this site who are "car enthusiasts" but couldn't change a spark plug...what a mixed up world this is. So this is all so complex, this article barely shines light on the true dilemma. My 2 cent thank you

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Been done still done

I rarely come to speedhunters these days and this recycled garbage is exactly why. Gender equality is a thing, believe it or not 99% of us get that.

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@Anonymous Ghost - Here's a thought, notice the recent amount of extremely high end performance/vintage cars suddenly appearing on the blog - Credited to an AZ.  Have a look on the publisher instagram, then look at the regular commenter on the photos called Zalasin...  Some dude who clearly owns the shit hot metal which keeps appearing - And looking at the tags he writes not just a friend....
Not exactly adding credibility to how SH gets access to feature cars.  Makes gamer gate look lightweight as.
And not just rocket bunny:  Liberty Walk and airbags anyone...

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dadecode shezzzhot

You are correct. Nobody is stopping a woman/female from becoming car enthusiasts. A lot do, I hate to generalize, so I won't. 

It's amazing how much is given to help start a profession in racing/tracking if a person is driven and determined. I have knowledge of at least 6 drivers who happen to be female who are doing quite well in this sport. In fact I have a meeting scheduled later this month with a potential sponsor for myself who is interested in foster this idea of bringing the sport of driving to more women. 

I'm excited to see this article and what the future holds in the way of breaking barriers in the mostly male populated sport. Drifting, tracking, autocross, rally, drag, and NASCAR have female fans right, so why not bring in more drivers too!

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dadecode shezzzhot

You are correct. Nobody is stopping a woman/female from becoming car enthusiasts. A lot do, I hate to generalize, so I won't. 

It's amazing how much is given to help start a profession in racing/tracking if a person is driven and determined. I have knowledge of at least 6 drivers who happen to be female who are doing quite well in this sport. In fact I have a meeting scheduled later this month with a potential sponsor for myself who is interested in foster this idea of bringing the sport of driving to more women. 

I'm excited to see this article and what the future holds in the way of breaking barriers in the mostly male populated sport. Drifting, tracking, autocross, rally, drag, and NASCAR have female fans right, so why not bring in more drivers too!

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I'm not a lady but i did read the whole article and agree with it. This is the mind state that is needed, All about equality.

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I fully agree I would love to see more woman get into cars my daughter loves them I just hope she sticks with it. I tried getting my wife into cars but failed still hoping tho. I think a lot of the problem is tho and I know ima take a beating for this one it's us guys. I know when I was showing my wife things about cars she asked me if the strut mount was the starter and I laughed witch was a stupid thing on my part. Yea it was funny to me but not to her. Us guys laugh when girls try to ask questions but we shouldn't we all had to start somewhere. So if your girlfriend, wife, daughter, or even the girl down the street wants to learn about cars don't laugh at the stuff they say give them the knowledge they need to know to get excited about cars. Let them help turn the wrenches and feel apart of it have them help trouble shoot even if it's the motor and they guessed wiper blades let them get involved without criticism.
Moparman13087

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guber959 I don't mind the artistic but agree it should be balanced out with some chassis suspension pics. Like get it up on a rack and shoot from underneath.

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I thought Sabine Schmitz was a man...

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The name of my first born will now be Wildcardfox

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Wow, reading some of the comments to this post makes me ashamed of being male and a car entusiast. But the post does serve
a purpose with bringing the discussion to the surface. I'd hate for my little daughter who loves her cars to be labeled as a "female car enthusiast" rather than just "car enthusiast" when she grows up. Go Taryn.

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There won't be any big uptick in female membership in the car scene until there's a big change in the way of thinking in the car scene. Don't belive me? Here's an example...

The last time you saw a woman get out of the driver's seat of a stanced out Lexus (if any of us have ever), a fiver says you thought to yourself some variation of the phrase, "Look, she's just hopped out of her boyfriend's car." When you see a lady behind the wheel of a burbling V8 muscle car, it's "someone borrowed her husband's midlife crisis." Top Gear once made the point that once any female puts on a racing suit, she's treated as a sex symbol.


I know I'm guilty of it just as much as anyone. The point is, unless those who are already IN the fold make an effort to encourage new membership, as it were, how do you expect anyone new to break in? Even if you don't know any girls that are down to bolt TE37's on their shit (I don't :/), find some, or make a new convert! Next time your buddy's girlfriend asks you what you did with your weekend, don't say "just some car stuff," tell her you had a great time doing whatever you were doing. Who knows, maybe she'll be interested. Maybe she has some friends who are, I don't know. Next season, take some lady friends out to an FD event. At the very least there's a whole bunch of stuff to do, and maybe you'll get some new people hooked.

Just a thought. /rant

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There won't be any big uptick in female membership in the car scene until there's a big change in the way of thinking in the car scene. Don't belive me? Here's an example...

The last time you saw a woman get out of the driver's seat of a stanced out Lexus (if any of us have ever), a fiver says you thought to yourself some variation of the phrase, "Look, she's just hopped out of her boyfriend's car." When you see a lady behind the wheel of a burbling V8 muscle car, it's "someone borrowed her husband's midlife crisis." Top Gear once made the point that once any female puts on a racing suit, she's treated as a sex symbol.


I know I'm guilty of it just as much as anyone. The point is, unless those who are already IN the fold make an effort to encourage new membership, as it were, how do you expect anyone new to break in? Even if you don't know any girls that are down to bolt TE37's on their shit (I don't :/), find some, or make a new convert! Next time your buddy's girlfriend asks you what you did with your weekend, don't say "just some car stuff," tell her you had a great time doing whatever you were doing. Who knows, maybe she'll be interested. Maybe she has some friends who are, I don't know. Next season, take some lady friends out to an FD event. At the very least there's a whole bunch of stuff to do, and maybe you'll get some new people hooked.

Just a thought. /rant

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Hi I have a six year old neace that could out do most men in terms of car talk and noledge. And i did have a good luagh on the weekend when it was the boyfriend borrowing his girlfriends car to race where i come from we are all equal with no label depending on sex!

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I think Jessi Combs is a great role model because she willingly learns and masters professions that are mostly looked as men's work. She's a metal fabricator, attempted a land speed record, does off road racing, as well as explores car and motorcycle culture.

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At first i thought that this was going to be a sign that feminists are moving in to baselessly tear apart another subculture just because it doesn't fit into their ideal visions of gender equality. If anyone's been following GamerGate and Anita Sarkeesian, and actually getting the facts of the situation, you can understand why I would react with such skepticism. 
But your understanding of what girls and women have to do to become enthusiasts is so well thought-out. YES! Women shouldn't expect special treatment to be included (*GASP*). They have to be able to understand and immerse in the existing culture, and change perceptions from there; not wave their arms around demanding to be respected and treated "equally" and calling everyone who disagrees "misogynists"! Women, as anyone else, are going to be to be willing to make the necessary sacrifices and be willing to learn, make mistakes, and accept consequences. 
The problem with so many feminists branching into subcultures to inject their SJW agenda is that they AREN'T willing to actually immerse and understand, and subsequently take any sign that the environment is difficult for women as an issue of "misogyny". They throw around their criticisms and assessments without any in-depth understanding of what it is they're criticizing. And it all boils down to the expectation to be treated equally and yet also demanding special treatment. It makes me sick to the core to see how much uncritical mainstream support these disingenious feminists tend to recieve.


I can understand why other guys out here in the comments are still skeptical about this, since feminism has been so active recently in stirring shit up almost everywhere. But I really think that if we take a close look at the actual words and points being made by Taryn, she seems to have a genuinely fair perspective that doesnt just expect women to be able to waltz into the culture without the slightest idea of what being an enthusiast really means. She's just encouraging other women not to be afraid of the car scene. As abrupt and out-of-nowhere this article seems to be, it makes a fair and balanced point where most feminists normally refuse to do so, and for that I can't help but respect Taryn's opinion. 
Just my two cents, but this I think is a much better idea of how to make a subculture more inclusive: by letting women into the scene to participate in what they want and do things their way, rather than demand that the entire thing revolve around female sensibilities! It should be an inclusion based not on constantly policing members as to not offend, but instead allowing everyone to express themselves in their own way, even as their approach can be divisive and controversial. This has always been the case in automotive enthusiasm, with the various flame wars happening around various subgroups and styles, but this has always been what made car culture, as a whole, complex and interesting. Female inclusion in car enthusiasm can be a part of this, without having to shove itself down everyone's throats.

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Anthraxxx Any child of that age enjoys being in a big toy car...boy or girl.

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MatthewBortot Agreed. It's only ever women that want to make sure they are heard....why is that? Whenever something happens that offends women or where women need make a point, if you reverse the situation to involve men in the same way you can almost be guaranteed you won't hear a peep from the men of the world.

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I agree with Taryn, but the problem is right in front of us and we don't see it.
Why we ALL accept that is OK for a few long legged girls to keep the sunshine away with umbrellas at each and every motorsport event, for the pilots? Why Danica doesn't have male model with umbrella? Because we will be terrified and we all thought that it will be sexist. No? So how women will love motorsport if we ALL accept umbrella girls? Or show queens? We cant and most import, they can't be past that.
It is wrong but we ALL accept that.

Anyway, I really have to say something about that Russian girl with the Soarer drift car: What the hell was that turbo setup? Firs words when I saw that TURBO was the words of Cartman from South Park:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5GS0MS5gU

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I agree with Taryn, but the problem is right in front of us and we don't see it.
Why we ALL accept that is OK for a few long legged girls to keep the sunshine away with umbrellas at each and every motorsport event, for the pilots? Why Danica doesn't have male model with umbrella? Because we will be terrified and we all thought that it will be sexist. No? So how women will love motorsport if we ALL accept umbrella girls? Or show queens? We cant and most import, they can't be past that.
It is wrong but we ALL accept that.

Anyway, I really have to say something about that Russian girl with the Soarer drift car: What the hell was that turbo setup? Firs words when I saw that TURBO was the words of Cartman from South Park:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5GS0MS5gU

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Taryn, none of our local girl from nz time attack Kat Benson or Bex from Bex drift in D1NZ Pro-Am? nice to see Jodie in there from D1NZ Pro's but a great article and there is sure to be few more missed but well done on a well written article

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@Simon Just because they're not in here doesn't mean I don't think they're incredibly rad! I just had a short amount of time to gather photos for this story :)

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@Angelo Well… she's probably got bigger balls than you, that's true!

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guber959 Thanks for your feedback. We actually have some really cool technical stories coming up next month, which from the sounds of things you'll really enjoy. Don't give up just yet :)

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guber959 Thanks for your feedback. We actually have some really cool technical stories coming up next month, which from the sounds of things you'll really enjoy. Don't give up just yet :)

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AirLift_Brian This is so cool!

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SadReally Haha. You're right. There are far too many photos of me wearing bathing suits on my Instagram. I better sort that out… 

Also, it's not sad that Pedey & I are sharing a similar career path, it's awesome! :)

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this.guy.said Michèle Mouton should have been mentioned! She is actually my #1 :)

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this.guy.said Michèle Mouton should have been mentioned! She is actually my #1 :)

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SimonJennings Emma Gilmour is amazing!

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@shovanisticass So I think… you are agreeing with what I'm saying then, right? It doesn't matter what sex you are. And women can do whatever they want. Exactly what I'm trying to get at :)

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niZmO_Man Michèle Mouton is a legend!

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JasmynCochrane That's awesome! Keep it up :)

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When I was in college, there were a few girls that took diploma in automotive engineering just like me. They're actually kinda amazing, passionate to learn, not afraid of getting their hands dirty & sometimes more knowledgeable than me haha :D

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Taryn Croucher OMG. Best answer ever!!! I underestimated you.

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Taryn Croucher OMG. Best answer ever!!! I underestimated you.

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greenroadster That's a drag racing soarer near 1400HP under the hood
you can google Maria Panova to know more

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Arisa Ueno from Vertex Japan :D

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Like it or not this post created some serious traffic in terms of page views. I love that. Better than any boring road trip or visit to a museum. I actually dig it.

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This article was a meh, only-for-a-reaction piece. It doesn't really achieve anything, and I am curious as to why only hot girls are shown with their cars? It it to point out the hypocrisy thats being spoken of? If not, where is the curvy girl? The odd-shaped one? Why not a picture of Claudia Hertgen when she drove with your very own Edward Sandstrom? 

You cast light on something that you do yourselves in many articles. Someone else mentioned that NONE of the photos of men's cars show the owner. Yet on a proportion, how many pictures of women's cars have you done that show them? Granted, the photo quality itself is always great, and the women aren't draped across the hood wearing only a cleverly-placed decal and a smile, but regardless, the statement is always made, repeated, then featured in a photo that (I guess) the owner is, yes, really a woman. 

How about this....if SH is serious, how about on the next couple of features of female-owned cars NOT mention anything in the article about it. Let someone ask in the comments if they deem its necessary. Why? Because it doesn't matter what gender the owner is when I'm looking at an article of a car. Not one single bit. Yes I want more women involved, but truly treat them as an accepted equal automotive enthusiast.

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@Fabrik8 We're not done yet! There's still a Rocket Bunny Civic EK Hatch kit, a Rocket Bunny Mini Cooper Kit, a Liberty Walk Peugeot 505 Wagon kit, and best of all, a totally different KM4SH! Kia Sedona kit either in production or already shot and ready to go live when they feel the tide has ebbed.

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Oh yeah, speaking of female role models, I do have one favorite from my country Malaysia.
Her name is Leona Chin, she's a full time drifter but she does circuit racing & gymkhana occasionally too. She's also the only female driving instructor for Lotus Club Malaysia too.
You guys need to check her out, she's really a motorsports addict :D

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Inessa Tushkanova. Shut shop!

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I really don't get it, why get so worked up about this. I really don't care if your a male or female.
Also I've rarely heard the term "Female Car Enthusiast" nor "Male Car Enthusiast", in my book this would only imply that the "enthusiast" in question is a male or female(you can't make that up from reading an article about someone) and then you get back to my first point, I don't really care.

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I really don't get it, why get so worked up about this. I really don't care if your a male or female.
Also I've rarely heard the term "Female Car Enthusiast" nor "Male Car Enthusiast", in my book this would only imply that the "enthusiast" in question is a male or female(you can't make that up from reading an article about someone) and then you get back to my first point, I don't really care.

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What the fuck is this, XOJane? This kinda BS is the worst shit on the internet.

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As I see in my country, Spain, there are quite a lot of girls that love car, but they use to drive stock ones but always sport packages, ///M kit from BMW, R-line from VW (or the big brothers like M3 or R models) only few of them use to modify after some time of driving them they use to switch the for never cars. 

A part of that, all of them enter in the car world after having the licence and sit in a brother or boyfriends car, it's cool to see your girlfriend driving your car, probably one of the sexiest things you can see with no money invest! The girls taste the speed and the feeling of a car that drives easy, and use to love it (you, girls, love the speed maybe more than us, but you are to shy to say it!)

Everyday it pass I meet more girl car enthusiast, last time I go to the geneva motorshow and ask to my friends ended going with a friend that was a girl!

The girl presence in internet is low because they use to ask to a friend for what part have to switch or if that engine is good enought to arrive at work trought a mountain passs in less than 10 min (a friend of mine ask me that LOL).

Lucky for us, exists lots of female car lovers, simply go to a meeting, because they arrive in a car drive it by a man, doesn't mean that she don't love cars, simply she is gently enought to leave the boy drive.

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If you want help... Ask for it. It isn't the duty of the enthusiast community at large to reach out and introduce new people/demographics into the scene. This isn't marketing, or a social responsibility initiative. If you're lost, the most efficient way to find out where you are and where you need to go is to stop and ask for directions - standing on a street corner, stamping your feet n screaming, "I'm lost!" may well have the same effect, but only after 50 people have passed by saying, "No, honey. We can't stop. That person is crazy."

Me? I'm a guy. A South African guy, in fact. And I'm in the enthusiast/aftermarket/modified community for the cars. New member? Awesome. Black/White/Mixed/Asian? Doesn't matter. Male/Female/Both? Doesn't matter. Have a dope car, and something to add to what we already have? That matters. The entire issue is a non-event. The people that are established in the industry don't care about the colour of your skin or your gender - you do. There's no active body of prehistoric males that tries to prevent women from joining in on the fun. 

"Oh, but you treat women as sex objects/say that a woman's place is in the kitchen!"
Hello, and welcome to the community! You must be new here. FIRSTLY, people who say/behave like that are in the minority, and secondly, we say significantly worse things to import drivers (if we drive muscle), and vice versa. There isn't a big musclecar community in SA (we drive RHD), but there have and always will be wars of words between the Euro car fans and the Jap car fans. And there's wars of words between people who build their cars for track, drag, stance, audio, whatever. Us busting your proverbial balls means the exact opposite of what you think it does - it ACTUALLY means that we've accepted you. Heck, we bust the balls of our closest friends who drive cars that are virtually identical to ours. It's banter - something that I've noticed isn't that well understood by ladies, and something that you may need to do a bit more research into. We do the same in any field you care to mention, and, as you've rightly mentioned, the enthusiast industry is male-dominated. Because, like it or not, cars are historically a guy thing. It's changing - I love that it's changing because I love seeing/hearing new ideas, and ladies tend to be very creative - but as it is, it's still predominantly a guy thing. Why?

Don't ask us. Ask the mothers, who told and continue to tell their daughters not to go into the garage and to stop behaving like a boy. Ask the ladies' magazines who continue to feature fashion, fashion, make-up, sex tips and fashion, but won't dedicate a column to new cars or ladies in the industry. Ask the friends who won't hang out with you 'cos your interests are different to theirs. Ask our girlfriends who tell us that we care too much about our rides, and that it's, "only a car". Ask why women tend to be more social animals, and why the majority are happier doing anything with their friends than they would be alone, in the garage, at 02h00 on a rainy morning. These are the questions that need to be asked, because these are the questions that need to be answered. 

Biased against ladies? Hogwash. Here we know them as car girls, cos here we're car guys. Or when introducing them to someone else, "She's a car person". This is where I take issue with the idea that the community isn't female-friendly ; the community is one of the friendliest out there, to EVERYONE. In fact, we tend to be nicer to ladies because, rightly or wrongly, we assume that their knowledge on the subject isn't as extensive as ours and so we go out of our way to provide advice/lend a helping hand. Think about it? Guy A is in bed on a Saturday morning. Guy B calls to ask for a hand in doing something to his car/going on a parts run. Guy A says, "Do it yourself, man. I'm sleeping.". Flip the situation? Which male enthusiast do you know that wouldn't come out to help you? I don't think I know of any.

In order to fit into a society, you abide by the rules of that society. You don't demand that that society bends to accommodate your minority, because then you marginalise yourself. Feminism has its place and its uses. I'm not sure this is one of them. You wanna fit in at what is essentially (by numbers alone) a boys club? Then you'll need a thick skin, 'cos us boys tend to be quite rude/lewd/whatever-else-we-are when we're amongst our own. 

You don't need female role-models - you just need role-models. There's no point in campaigning for gender to be removed from the equation if you plan on reintroducing it to suit the argument. Who you look up to should be the people that build the kind of CARS that you appreciate. The garages - the Top Secrets, the Garage Defends, the Spoon Sports - are where inspiration should come from. Not from a, "woman making it in a man's world", because then you're fostering an us-versus-them attitude, you're making it so that men and women cannot happily cohabit this community. You're making girls say, "We can build cars/drive/drift better than guys can, even though that's what they're supposed to be doing.", when what they should be saying is, "I can build a good car.". You won't win friends by antagonising people.

It's about the cars. Leave your gender sensibilities at the door, and you can come in.

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Taryn Croucher  I understand you. I would welcome the fact of having more diversity in the scene with more women modifying and racing cars. And honestly there is need for petrolhead women who understand us boys :) The problem here is, that all that counts here is to be a part of the society and be just like everybody else. So when a girl shows up with a tuned car everybody will look at her in a strange way. I ask the girls of today to be more "bosozoku", to go against the mainstream girly lifestyle and explore new things! But this is only wish-thinking, everybody knows reality looks diffrent.. by the way i love that chick with the SilEighty and damn the girl with the yellow LanEvo is bad....... She's a bad girl! And i like that!

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Gianluca FairladyZ

Taryn Croucher  I understand you. I would welcome the fact of having more diversity in the scene with more women modifying and racing cars. And honestly there is need for petrolhead women who understand us boys :) The problem here is, that all that counts here is to be a part of the society and be just like everybody else. So when a girl shows up with a tuned car everybody will look at her in a strange way. I ask the girls of today to be more "bosozoku", to go against the mainstream girly lifestyle and explore new things! But this is only wish-thinking, everybody knows reality looks diffrent.. by the way i love that chick with the SilEighty and damn the girl with the yellow LanEvo is bad....... She's a bad girl! And i like that!

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I have yet to see a woman obsessed with cars. To be honest, i'm already impressed when i see a girl fill up his car at a gas station by herself.

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I reckon there's probably a lot more girls in to cars than men realise, the only thing is, unless they look like the slim, stunning chicks in the article's photos, they go unnoticed... Which let's be honest, is down to half naked pit girls/show girls setting such a high standard... Which would be fine, if all "male enthusiasts" looked like Paul Walker... ;-)

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I never really had a person influence me towards car's. I had a infatuation with 3rd generation Camaro's before I could even drive. Now, I'm 36 and a mother of two and my love for car's has only grown! I really enjoyed teaching my son how to drive, change oil, and rewire the car and switch out some speakers. He's only been driving since June, but so far he has been good at it. He is more of a studious teen, but if it's car related he comes to me and I try to teach him and not just do it for him. He wants me to teach him how to drive a manual, but I won't use my car for that. We'll have to find a older cheaper vehicle for him to learn in.
I have always been, and always be a Camaro lover. I have owned two, and if not for that infatuation I probably would never have found the appreciation for car's that I have. I love all sport's car's and that's all I will ever buy and drive! Driving should be fun and if it's not you didn't buy the right car!

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AdamBezzegh  What a moron

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Should used a picture of danica patrick also.

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I run an instagram page called #TrackAddict and a few of the girls you posted there are followers, but I would say females only make up 1% of our members.

Im slowly making my wife a car person... She may well be buying her first set of after market wheels soon!

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JennaVanHezewijk RensAdams What you've said here rang completely true with me! I have a real chip on my shoulder about me being female ever being mentioned in this context. Either call me a good driver or not - my sex shouldn't come into it. Grrrr. On another note, always good to see someone else infected with the 'Ring fever - I'm rather jealous of you being so close. If you ever spy a black Evo 6 out there, wave! :)

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I started by watching and helping my dad as he was a mechanic. I've always been a tomboy never played with dolls i had and still have me corgi cars. I've always been a petrol head female and have found it difficult in past being a female that loved cars and knew what she was talking about when it came to cars.
I'm part of a number of forums and am currently molding my lovely ATR. I love the fact more females are joining in on it but like you say the stigma needs to be banished lol.

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My pride and joy

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I don't know about most girls but I've always had a love for cars, granted I was born into it. My dad was a race car driver and now has a garage in our back yard which is where I spend a lot if my time. My boyfriend and I recently bought 2 mitsubishi eclipses, and have a healthy competition of making "mine better than yours" but of course my 6 speed manual gt already has a leg up on his automatic gs lol

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FEMINISTS UNITE! Let's take over the site.

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ATLshine Haha, maybe not take over… but definitely take part in! :)

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Aw, no mention of Michèle Mouton? I'd argue that competing (and winning) as a factory works driver in Group B and Pikes Peak has placed women far further ahead than what Danica Patrick and her GoDaddy-sponsored cars will ever achieve. 

I think a major problem is the lack of lower-level female icons, ones that other women can look at and think "oh hey, I can do that!" because lets face it, striving to be the next Susie Wolff is just not realistic. Honestly, you (Taryn) are the only major car community players I can think of that's a girl, which as mentioned just isn't enough. Hopefully someday the community can eventually have a better guys/girls ratio like surfing or snowboarding.

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Women in the car industry and equality for them is being blown way out of proportion.  Why does a culture have to cater to "women".  As a car enthusiast myself, it doesn't matter what gender, or race you are...as long as you are interested in cars.  I have to say that it is annoying to see a girl driving a nice car and you ask them about it and they have no idea.  If you put in the work, people will respect you.  At least understand what your driving.  That being said there are guys that are the same way.  And those guys get treated with the same contempt. There are lots more women in motor sports that were not mentioned in this article...Lisa Kubo, one of the pioneers in the import drag scene is one of the major ones. When asked about being within a male dominated sport, here's what she had to say: 
"It has been a bit tough as far as being the new person in the Quick
Class. There is also a lot more pressure because I am running against
the best of the best. Yes, to a good degree I had to prove that females
can be just as competitive in a male-dominated sport. It is made out to
be a big deal, but when it comes down to it, I'm just another
competitor."
If women took this attitude...I think things would change a lot.  How about finding Lisa and doing a feature on her life and accomplishments.  
I don't think any guy has a problem with women taking part in car culture...but do the research, understand your vehicle, lend a hand when someone asks and know a bit of history about cars and you will be accepted.

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Jonnybimmer Of course, Michèle Mouton is another great example. I certainly could have used more than three example of inspirational women in this :)

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What about the less photogenic girls.

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http://youtu.be/enSDiaZJzEM
Can't talk about south park without saying "I am lorde."

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It am totally in favor of all the things you wrote, Taryn. I am a male and 2 things piss me off in the car scene.

A) Cars and women are soo often portraited with a lot of skin, bottom and chest exposure. I am straight and I really don't like those kind of images. I do like pictures with cars and women that are natural. A girl in a racing suit with dirty hands is sexier than a silicon filled girl in a bikini and high heels leaning over a car. Speaking of racing suits...

B) the color pink. I was at the 24h race in Dubai in 2013 (or so) where a team consisted of only female drivers. Guess the color of their suits and car. Pink. The female pit reporter in the Super GT events is wearing a suit with... you guessed it: pink accents. It even shows in some of the images in this post, where there is pink involved. Nothing against it, if you like the color. But often I think that the preferences of many female drivers is forced to the background and they opt for a girlish trait to be accepted or liked in the scene. There should be nothing dictating you to be respected as a female in the car scene. Maybe I overthink this.

Also, Mr. Sean Foster, who is the photographer of the cover image and the other yellow EVO shot. I am sad to see him tagging this picture with #iamthepussyhunter. I don't see any cats in the picture so the "pussy" is refering to... Also the license plate is disgusting. Could it be "down on (all) fours"?

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Check out this article by celebrated motoring journalist Germaine Greer:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/2718524/Why-are-men-obsessed-with-cars.html

picardwithhishandonhisforehead.jpg

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Shmeeve Let's have a calendar with naked men leaning over cars. That would be hilarious.

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@Murph the thing is, car culture is catered for men. And this needs to change.

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emeQee Shmeeve Haha, that would be ridiculous! I understand sex sells & that's why they do it, it's easy money, but c'mon... I went to Ultimate Street Car a few weeks back & all I could think (about the girls) was "get off that blood car before you scratch it!"... Priorities people :-)

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I work with Lisa's husband. I mentioned earlier that she should have been in this article.

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Speaking from experience th guys out there dont make it easy or give chicks wanting to get more involved in th industry a fair go. Im a rockie, 1st year apprentice mechanic & completely love cars & working on them. Would love to get more involved in the racing side of it which i do hope to do one day. Love my v8's th most, th more power th better th louder th better. One thing I have found th hardest is th male world accepting me into there industry. At trade school th only 2 other females in th building is th receptionist and th libarian lady. All th guys there just look at me like im lost & few even make fun of me, which is fine I can cop it but it most definitely puts ya off abit. Does give me an uncomfortable feeling though. 2 months ago I thought id have ago and give th quarter mile a crack in my stock holden vx commodore. I had fun, gave it ago wasnt there to break no record's but 70% of th guys there just made fun of me & laughed at a chick having ago. Its wrong!!! How we spose to get and in courage more chicks to get involved when soon as they do, there laughed out and made fun of.... I hear ya & understand your articale completely and good on ya for doing it too :-)

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emeQee An EVO is AWD so licence plate is probably referring to that not sexual position

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I don't know how this made it past the editor..
"When was the last time you ever heard anybody use the term ‘male car enthusiast’?"
We used the term "car guys" all the time to distinguish from males who love cars and does who don't. Same with "cargirls", the term is used to distinguish from girls who love cars and those who don't. Not to separate guys from girls like you claim. But I'll play your game.
"The ‘female enthusiast’ label."
Doesn't this "label" exist in every industry? Is it not normal? If an industry is dominated by "blank" we use adjectives to  differentiate one person from the other. It could be gender or race. If there's two "insert industry here" enthusiast in a room one male and one female. And you want to call one over, what are you suppose to say? "hey you "blank" enthusiast come over here" and ignore gender? I mean come on. That's silly. You use Ma'am or Sir. (if you have manners)
In the car industry it will always exist because males dominate the industry, you even said later in the article and thus why we don't say male car enthusiast. Same reason we say strippers and male strippers. Model or male model. Nurse and male nurse. Nobody is arguing about that.  The only jobs that are truly unbiased are Chefs and Doctors. You know why? Cause females stepped up. My Doctor is a female and so is my Dentist. I trust them completely. You want respect as a car enthusiast step yo game up.
You continue on to say:
"Guys, we have a problem. It’s more about the fact that women are the minority in this male-dominated industry, and it’s a fact that everyone just seems to accept and not really do anything about."
Why is it a problem? Why do we have to do something about it? Why do females gotta dominate the industry or at least be equal? Do you realize that for some guys this is an outlet, not everybody wants to be with they're wife 24/7. Sometimes is just about getting some guy time. Not everything has to be a gender thing. You don't see guys fighting for more rights or recognition in the stripper industry or fashion industry. You want respect, earn it. Its your problem not ours.
And after you say you don't understand why females are the minority you wrote:
"I think we can all agree that the majority of men come pre-programmed with some kind of instinctual attraction to things that go fast and make loud noises. The choice of cars as a hobby comes naturally. But generally, women aren’t like this."
So if they're aren't naturally like this, why do you think they should be like this? Then what's the problem? You make no goddam sense. This article is both biased and silly.

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Can you fully explain how the car industry is catered towards men and I'm assuming is non welcoming towards women? I hear it inferred, but can you fully explain please.

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DennyTsai ScottDean0  All I'm speaking off is personal opinion here. In response to the lack of interest point you made. while, yes, lack of exposure = lack of interest in most cases, it still takes a certain amount of initiative to find things out for yourself - a personal example is me playing the saxophone, I am the only male in my sax band of about 7 people and everyone who has taught me has been female and there was no bias against me because of my gender. I do not believe that it is a gendered issue as I have been in situations where the numbers are reversed and it certainly hasn't. I know that in my school there is a huge amount being done to get more girls in areas where they are the minority in terms of numbers (Computing, physics, engineering etc.) but nothing the other way, so the exposure and encouragement is certainly there but the numbers aren't.

I glad that you share mostly the same opinion as me in terms of role models. But, speaking from personal experience here, I just needed a like-minded person to me to relate to rather than someone the same gender.

In response to your final paragraph, I do live in an area where there are a lot of vocal groups discouraging me and others to get behind the wheel, e.g my local track has had barrages of complaints from people who moved into the area, knowing there was an active race track near them, and wanted it to be shut down as it was too loud. I don't need to imagine that. If racing was mostly made up of black women, I would still be a part of it as it is what I like to do and the race and gender of the other people involved doesn't matter to me, unless they turned it into an issue.

I can understand your point but I can't put myself in your position as I am simply not the sort of person that is intimidated by lack of support.

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Wildcardfox I was thinking of advertisement and race queens. Magazines don't have a single cover without a halfnaked woman. The programme with bikini girls dancing on stage that is not missing in car shows like the Essen Motor Show. I know it is not exclusive to the car scene, and to some these things may be trivial.

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Between my friends and I we rarely comment on hair colour, nail colour (unless we are talking about galvanisation) or - surprisingly - what sex someone is. There's far too much more interesting shit going on in our lives. However we have witnessed some friends who are female and into cars that will happily use their sexuality to get what they want. Wether that's all the bodywork and paint work on their then very ropey 77 bug' by a couple of owner group members who are taken aback by a girl joining right through to friends (plural) who buy high end 'to impress guys' And crash them when they try to hang the rear out (however that's more I would argue technical stupidity and inability then the fact they are female) the only time we comment on females being females 'into' cars is when we see them acting in a way that leaves us dismayed and sad at the state of equality As is clear below, it's not always the persons sexuality that people knee jerk (hurrrrrr) against but the way some people use that sexuality to get what they want. I wouldn't flirt with a someone to get a cheaper deal on my tyres, I wouldn't give someone cheaper tyres because they flirt with me. I was raised to believe I'm worth more then that, and so are other people. as were my sisters, who would never do similar not from threats of death from our mother, but out of having respect for themselves. Said mother has always said that The problem is double sided - men objectify women and some women not only objectify themselves but encourage others to do similar. which is a pretty sad state in this day and society. Act like an equal and- unless you are talking to people with damaged chromosomes -you will get treated as an equal. But flirting for cheap parts work etc is on a par vulgarness-wise with those that respond to it. And that's why females into cars are judged with suspicion- an abused dog still cowers at a loud noise- regardless of what makes that noise. Male car enthusiasts are worried they are being taken for a ride when approached by girls into cars. They need time to get past their own issues - usually stemming from past treatment.

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@hurrderp agreed

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forbidenjess I understand you feeling bad about being made fun of...but honestly, as a male, I have been made fun of for running a crappy 1/4 mile in my STI by my friends.  This attitude is the same for guys.  This is the culture of the car scene, competition is fierce.  Now if you are being targeted because you are a female...shame on those guys, but whether you are a guy or a girl, people poke fun.  Don't give up...just get better.

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emeQee Shmeeve I'll offer myself as the first model! Ok sure it won't sell but still why not!

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emeQee Shmeeve I'll offer myself as the first model! Ok sure it won't sell but still why not!

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redgsxwing emeQee I know Evo's are AWD but the first thought I got in my mind was sexist. Guess if you try too hard for not beeing sexist, it backfires.