Until a few weeks ago, I’d never been to Los Angeles before. I’d never driven an American muscle car before, and I’d never driven on the ‘wrong’ side of the road before. But I was about to find myself in all new territory when I was given the opportunity to take a Ford Mustang RTR for a spin in America recently!
There’s always a first time for everything, right?
At the time of finding out about this dream drive I’d only just arrived in Japan, so I was already feeling a bit dazed and overwhelmed when I happened to check my phone and glance at an email reading, “We’re arranging for you to drive a Mustang RTR in LA after Formula D, is that cool?”
Is that cool?! Err… is that a trick question?
Two weeks later and here I was, sitting in a very comfortable leather Recaro seat and driving over the Vincent Thomas bridge, heading out of Long Beach towards San Pedro in search of some epic driving roads.
But first we had to stop to fill up the thirsty RTR, which Vaughn Gittin Jr. himself had very kindly let us borrow for the day. It must have been fate that made us stop at this particular gas station…
… because this gorgeous first generation Mustang was also thirsty, and it made for a great photo opportunity as we parked up behind it.
The colour was a coincidence too! Which do you prefer, the soft classic tones or the bright rowdy green? Personally I thought the RTR looked a lot more inviting…
Although there are obvious differences between the classic and modern day platforms, it was cool to see the two cars side by side like this, and be able to closely study the slight similarities in design. The Mustang has come along way in 50 years, that’s for sure.
Larry suggested we take this route through Palos Verdes as he wanted to show us this particular road with some pretty amazing twists and turns and some even more impressive views of the coastline…
… and it didn’t disappoint. Larry explained to us that he’s been coming out here to drive this road since he first learnt to drive back in his teenage days!
The road itself is called Palos Verdes Drive East, and here you can see where we started out at the bottom of the curving ‘S’ section. Just look at those curves!
Just the day before I had watched Vaughn compete in his Monster Energy Nitto Tire Mustang RTR at Formula D in Long Beach. Although I’d seen video footage of it drifting before, there was just no way it could have prepared me for how mind-blowingly awesome it was going to be watching this enormous American monster flying past me sideways, as I stood just inches away behind the barrier with my mouth hanging open! I’d always been a bit of a Japanese purist when it came to drift cars, but I’m not so sure any more.
Of course, Vaughn’s competition car makes roughly twice the power of the Spec 2 RTR, but after watching him in action I was pumped to get behind the wheel of one! The only problem was… well, I’d never actually driven a LHD car on the right-hand side of the road before.
I’ll admit I was a bit nervous…
… but as soon I started driving I realised that it didn’t feel that different at all! I’ll admit, there were a few times when I flung my left hand into the driver’s door, but after no time at all I’d completely forgotten that I’d usually be driving on the other side, and it felt completely natural.
I drove to the top of the hill and turned around, coming to a stop (on the right side!) of the road…
Then, I put my foot down.
Hearing the howling V8 bouncing off the rev limiter was definitely one of those true #joyofmachine moments!
So what were my preconceived notions about the RTR? Well, I’ll be honest, I’ve never really been a big fan of muscle cars. Perhaps it’s the stigma that comes along with them: I’d picture a typical Mustang driver as a bit of a macho man with a big ego and maybe even a mullet hairstyle? If that sounds weird to you, you should come down to NZ and check out one of our annual classic car meets like Beach Hop or the Kumeu car show and you might see what I mean!
But something I quickly realised was that I was wrong to let that stereotype affect my opinion of what the personality of the car would actually be like. In fact, the muscle car stereotype wasn’t the only thing I’d misunderstood.
As I said before this was my first time visiting the United States, and it was actually the time I spent hanging out with Americans that helped me realise what the Mustang truly represents. I’d always thought that Americans were this loud, rowdy and outspoken bunch of people, and I was totally right (in a good way!) but I’d also never experienced for myself how extremely kind, confident and motivated they were too. American people aren’t afraid to talk to you about their own strengths and ambitions, and I love that! I think everyone should be more like that, and that’s exactly what the Mustang is like too. It’s noisy, rowdy and powerful, and proud of it.
The more time I spent in the driver’s seat, the more I understood this. There was something about being behind the wheel of such a large car – a car with a bit of a badass reputation and not to mention a big grumbling uprated 5.0 litre V8 under the hood – that perhaps went to my head, but it made me feel so empowered. I could definitely see myself driving this around, cruising through Auckland City and then taking it out to all the fun rural driving spots back in NZ. I knew that after this I was going to go home, hop in my Nissan Lucino and cry the whole way to work.
Though everything about the RTR looked like it would feel chunky and heavy, it was surprisingly nimble and handled well through the bends – a testament to Vaughan’s extensive development in the suspension department for this car. I was so surprised at how easy it was to drive too; it behaved nicely at a leisurely pace, but at the same time if I stepped hard on the throttle it wouldn’t let me forget about the healthy 445hp hiding underneath the bonnet. The wall of torque came on strong from very low in the revs, and it was more than enough to get the rear end stepping out and the sticky Nittos smoking. It’s certainly no high-tech supercar, but gadgets don’t always make for a more enjoyable drive. The RTR is a simple, brutish and extremely fun car, and as its driver I felt incredibly in sync with it; it wasn’t what I was expecting at all.
I also liked the deliberate and heavy feel when shifting – it was kind of fun to have to be a bit aggressive as you chopped down the gears coming into a tight corner. It was certainly far removed from the delicate, light feel of driving the older Japanese vehicles I’m used to.
If you outlined the things that usually appeal to me in a car, they’d describe a vehicle pretty much the exact opposite of this car. I’m a JDM enthusiast many times over, and I can’t say I’d ever choose an American vehicle over a Japanese brand. But the RTR flipped those feelings upside down, and definitely challenged my usual values of what I consider a ‘cool’ car to be.
The look on my face here really sums up my feelings about being behind the wheel!
Andy Barnes, the Business Development Director of Speedhunters, had also come along with us for the trip, and unsurprisingly he’d already struck up a conversation with some local motorcyclists. Seriously, that man loves to talk.
There were a whole lot of different bikes and people, young and old, hanging out at the lookout – it seemed to be a bit of a meeting point for motorcycle enthusiasts in general.
Andy was busy admiring an unusual contraption. This three-wheeled ‘Ural’ Russian army motorcycle had an engageable sidecar driveshaft and came factory in this camo theme paint.
Aboutmotorcycles.com describes the Ural as “a rugged, go-anywhere beast of burden!” Nice.
The owner had purchased it from a dealer in the US. It doesn’t come with those sweet gun decals though, he added those himself!
Andy: “Can I err… can I try that on?”
Some of the bikers had become curious and were checking out the RTR, and it was interesting to hear their thoughts. One of them remarked, “This just looks so much cooler than a normal Mustang; it just has that something extra, doesn’t it?”
It has more than just something extra though: the 19-inch matte black RTR wheels and the menacing looking rear and front lip-spoiler are some of my favourite additions. The subtle striping is tastefully done and adds an extra sporty touch, but it’s not in your face like the gaudy centred racing stripes you usually see on a lot of muscle cars.
It’s current styling elements like these that really caught my attention initially and made me think, hang on, this car actually looks really good. They sort of helped me shake off those prior stereotypes I had in my head and made me see the Mustang in a completely different light. The fact that the RTR is a dealer-installed package is pretty cool too. Of course, the extra horsepower from the Ford Racing tune and exhaust system doesn’t hurt either.
I also like how the big chunky Mustang badge has been deleted from the rear, in favour of a smooth panel with the more stylish looking RTR applique.
Before long it was time to say goodbye to this beautiful vista, but not before leaving a Speedhunters sticker to mark our territory!
The thing with the RTR was, it took everything that I don’t usually like, or at least didn’t think that I liked – and it made me love all of those things. I’m definitely not your average Mustang owner, but by the time I had to hand the keys back I could already envision myself having this car as a daily driver – I wish!
Something that Vaughn really wanted to achieve with the RTR was for this car to be able to take someone that would not usually be attracted to a Mustang, and engage them to at least have a different perception of what the Mustang could be.
Although I was sceptical to start off with, this was exactly what happened. Thanks to this experience I now not only have a new appreciation for the Mustang RTR, but for what the American muscle car truly stands for: pride, power, and pure awesomeness!
your nail polish goes kinda wickedly good with the gotta-have-it-green of the RTR.
a good sense of occasion you have there in your writing, too, btw.!
I learned to drive on piece of asphalt, known to locals as the "Switchbacks", depicted in the second picture. Also ditched a handful of the local county sheriffs there as well. You couldn't imagine a better commute to high school!
Thanks for having an open mind about the Mustang. I grew up with Mustangs and I've always been sad about how much my generation seems to hate them even though most of them have never driven one. It's a diverse platform with a lot to offer. I'm thinking about getting a 66 convertible sometime in the next few years. Sure, it wouldnt handle like a new M3 or go around a track like a GTR, but I'm sure it would be damn fun to drive on a nice summer day.
"I’d always thought that Americans were this loud, rowdy and outspoken bunch of people, and I was totally right (in a good way!)."
Hell yeah. The states have a lot to enjoy, some of the best roads in the world and some of the craziest cars as well. Trust me when I say this too having lived in CA for 20 + years and some southern states for a few as well....Californians on the whole are tame compared to people in other parts of the country. Visit more often, might never move back :P
The fact that I'm not a fan of Mustangs and actually enjoyed this write-up must mean one thing.. You did a great job on this one. Personally, the only Mustang I would touch would have to be a first generation fastback or a fox body coupe (non-hatchback). Does that mean I'm a snob?
Lol lots of memories of PV east..... Love that road, but most of it is residential, gotta be careful driving it.
I still kinda don't like muscle cars. Loud simple one trick ponies that can only go in a straight line, but maybe that's just the cars of old and now things are different.
You should have kept going up to the Airport beacon at the top of the hill. The overlook is awesome.
Recently I think the mustang has become a bit overrated in America; the fox bodies of the ‘80’s are my personal favorite. What I’ve seen the aus “family” cars, seem to be a bit more practical; the falcon with the four doors and smaller displacement engines. maybe I'm wrong I don't look up these cars much because i cant get a hold of them but, I like them and wish they were offered in America. The grass is always greener haha.
Actually, that's a second generation Mustang you parked behind. It's either a '67 or '68. First gen 'Stang was '64 1/2 thru '66.
" I’d always thought that Americans were this loud, rowdy and outspoken bunch of people,", nah not us, that would be those gents to the west of your homeland! Nice Mustang and like others have said, good write up, Larry, as usual, spot on pictures. I run these roads every so often, either in my Cooper S or my Buell...great views! Sometimes makes me wish I lived closer to LA.....SOMETIMES!
HAHA, this is my hood. Im surprised you guys didn't get blurped by the police up there. I never drive that road because there iss too much law enforcement hanging out on it.
I used to drive the Vincent Thomas bridge every day...brings back memories.
Great article about a USDM car coming from a JDM enthusiast. I think many of your readers will appreciate that perspective. Good read Taryn!
im a camaro fan myself but like the terminator 02 cobra the rtr is what i think all the mustangs should be like from the factory. the v6 should be discontinued.lol
I'm pretty jealous of JR. Not only does he have a sweet "job" but he also has a special edition muscle car made and developed in his honour. Another great post guys. I find myself checking the website 2/3 times a day now for more cars! If addiction to this website had a scientific name, I've got it.
Can we get http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Larry_Chen_Speedhunters_rtr_dream_drive_taryn-46.jpg in desktop size? :D it's an awesome shot
That car brought back a wonderful memory. Two 1969 Mustang Boss 429's, one in orange, the other this shade of lime green, next to each other on a car yard. That was back in 1971 and I tried my best to talk my dad into getting one of those, but no luck! He got a brand new '72 model year Grande instead.
With the stripes on the side, this car very much reminds me of that lime green monster 429.
Outstanding. What a car? A bright green Mustang. My friends, Bob and Rosco will be so excited when they see this. Jezza would love this, too.
Awesome story and even better photos! Wish new mustangs weren't so much money down in aus! (GT500 are $150.000au converted to right hand drive!) yep it's about $165.000 us!!!!! Ouch we get ripped off!!!!
@Hollagraphik Vaughn lives here in Maryland, so if this is his car then he probably registered it.
@TheNelsonGarage Not at all...I'm with you on that. The only mustang I would ever personally own would be an F-body.
@guReMcO Its' a common error in perception, like that fact that at the time they were considered "super cars" because honestly; short of a all out race car, NOTHING approached the HP and acceleration they achieved. In fact, the term didn't become associated with Exotics til the late 70s to early 80s). "muscle car" is a much later term as well. Do some research, you'd be surprised how many "Muscle cars" of the era were not 1/4mile focused.
The fact that their handling is regarded as "suspect" by modern, uninitiated enthusiast, is more of a nod to the fact that it took nearly 20 years for anything other than exotics to approach their performance abilities. As well as the fact that people easily forget that EVERYTHING in the 60s-early 70s handles like sh#t compared to whats on the road now. Yes even Ferrari and Porches. Also, a nearly 50yr old "Muscle car" is easily able to keep up with and be driven daily in modern traffic, the Exotic stuff is fragile, unreliable, and far less comfortable. So a Muscle car is more likely to be compared to modern steel, because it's still relevant in the modern street scene. especially in the States.
@guReMcO The current generation of Mustang will out-drive a current M3 around the track. They're no slouches anymore.
@KevinVetters I think they're both considered first gen :)
@hanablemoore Lots of enthusiasts are going for the V6 too. It makes more power than the old V8 you know. :)
@Driveitlikeyoustoleit Maybe when the Falcon GT and the other supercharged coyote engined and even the turbocharged 4.0L XR6T Falcons we have in Australia get retired that Ford Australia will bring the mustang over here as a global platform car.
The being said, I would love to have some American opinions of the Australian 'Family' muscle cars.
"...people easily forget that EVERYTHING in the 60s-early 70s handles like sh#t compared to whats on the road now."
Well, that's because modern cars benefit from HUGE advances in tire, suspension & braking tech. The best cars then have IFS & IRS designs that are for the most part, identical w/ cars today. You just cannot compare some vinitage machine running on vintage boingers & buns w/ a modern car. *ENGINE* tech has come a long way, what with EFI & VVT, but the handling has not evolved as much, barring electronic aids like traction control. It's all in the ancillaries of much, muCH, MUCH improved shocks and tires...
@seaninc @guReMcO Yeah the Boss 302 around Laguna Seca. I read about it. It's just that I think that sort of handling is limited to the more track oriented versions like the Mustang Boss or Camaro Z28 and the rest of the range is still "lacking". Having said that I've never actually seen the latest model Mustang or Camaro irl. Muscle cars are really uncommon where I live. So what do I know. :P
64 1/2 to 73 is first gen 74 to 78 is second gen which are my personal favorites,yea yea I know you purists would say it`s not a real mustang but like the article I just read, until you`ve driven one with suspension upgrades and a 347 putting 370 horse to the wheels you wouldn`t understand.
Very enjoyable writeup by the way.....
@Taryn Croucher @KevinVetters You may very well be correct, which is kinda a dumb way for Ford to do it. Especially considering the vast differences between the 64 1/2 - 66 to the 67-68 to the 69-70 and then the massive size growth in the 71-73. I see them as four very different "generations" of car.
@AlanPeterson1 @Jeats @Driveitlikeyoustoleit It'll be around 2017/18 when the falcon and commodore go dodo, sad really but there's potential replacements everywhere, Taurus is a sure bet for the falcon because it is easy RWD and the impala for the commodore but it'll be hard to convince the buying public to go FWD. It's not the first time ford aus has brought the mustang over for sale, anyone remember the horrible SVT around 1997/8? Drove one not long ago and a BA gt could wipe it anywhere! Track, strip, road you name it!