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After seeing a teaser video posted by Linhberg it is time to see what the end product will look like. This will be the car that Rhys Millen is going to use to beat the record on the Pikes Peak Hillclimb. It is a complete tube framed car with lots of carbon fiber and it will be powered by a 4.1 liter V8 capable of producing 750bhp. Will it be enough to break the 10 minute barrier?

-Jeroen Willemsen

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wow.it looks like a car from the GT Series!

please keep us informed!

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Hyunday? typo?

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Nope. He'll need a lot more than a go cart to go up against Monster, Marcus, and Mark.

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Best of luck Rhys

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pikes peak you sure?????? or more gt???lol

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HYUNDAI>Hyunday , but otherwise, very interesting

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Unless they grate the gravel road immediately before the event, and Rhys is the first car off, he's going to spend most of the way up the mountain riding on the belly and understructure of that car. Above the Halfway Picnic Grounds, Pikes Peak is almost all a gravel, filled with ruts and holes. He'll need four or more inches of suspension travel and SH would never post a picture of a car with that much fender gap (because prevailing opinion is that races are won by the car with the closest tire to fender fit, not the car that goes the fastest).

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It is going to be powered by a V6, the genesis motor stroked to 4.1 with a single turbo

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The car looks seriously awesome for a Pikes Peak event but they do know April Fools Day past already right?

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Rhys has been up Pikes Peak a number of times, I am sure he knows the formula to going fast on his way upto the clouds...

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That's cool! Although, it looks more like a LMP than a Hill climb car.

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i cant believe people are getting so excited about what is basically a photoshop concept render. there is nothing about this sketch which makes me think that they will be able to pull off this design.

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@ Komeko



IIRC, this is not Rhys's first battle on Pikes Peak. In fact, I think Roegge did a vid on it last year. And seeing as this is a drawing and not the actual car....I'll bet it can handle the ruts and gravel just fine.



But yes, it does look like a GT car or LMP. No reason why those aerodynamics won't work on the dirt, other than the speed needed for the control surfaces. Good luck!!!

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I've walked on the gravel of Pikes Peak last year. The surface starts off on smooth tarmac and transitions to just as hard and (relatively) smooth as dirt as concrete roads. The only variable are the loose pebbles and rocks. So knowing that, the cars do not need to sit unreasonably high. Should be fantastic battle this year between Millen and Tajima.

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lol pikes peak ? ok.... lets wait and see...

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Didn't the drift spec genesis get up pikes peak just fine with minimal fiddling? These renders look strange, the proportions. Looks too narrow or something.

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To me it looks nothing like an LMP and just like a Daytona prototype.



Also his Dad set his record with a Toyota GTP chassis with a Tacoma body so ground clearance won't be a problem.

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Wow, when I first saw it, it reminded me of a Peugeot LMP car....interesting.

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4.1 v8, ballin!, but needs a 3 inch lift if its going to drive in dirt

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it looks deadly.. am gonna wait and see..

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That IS a Daytona Prototype racecar chasis that races in the Rolex Grand-Am series. Only difference is they swapped a Hyundi V8 into it. Why doesn't Redbull just bring one of their Formula One cars over and put some dirt tires on it? It would break 10 mins for sure.

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soooooo what about this exactly makes it a Genesis?

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EJ257: it is based off a Jaguar prototype racer but the body is Rhys Millen's own design. Also, the engine isn't a V8!!! It's a stroked version of the Lambda V6 in the Genesis Coupe, Genesis sedan, Azera, Veracruz, etc.

BlueSlug: As I said, the engine is a stroked (read: heavily modified) version of the V6 in the Genesis Coupe. Also, I'd say that Hyundai paid for most of the car so that should be enough to call it that. I bet you wouldn't say anything if it was labelled as an Audi or something similar...



Seriously, Rhys isn't a noob when it comes to Pikes Peak so let's leave him to it...

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I've driven Pikes Peak in a rally car. Ignore the gravel and dirt, the blacktop is a broken and potholed mess. I've seen the previous Genesis car, and it ran stock ride height with skirts on all sides. Hope Rhys has a half inch steel belly pan on that LMP car, with extra armor and padding under his seat. Expert or not, when someone suggests something so stupid as taking a car built for a glass smooth track up a logging road, everyone has the responsibility to point it out so that person doesn't hurt themselves or others.

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That looks nothing like a genesis.

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Somebody tell Rhys that April Fools day is April 1st, not April 20th. This promotion stunt ranks right up there with the "accidental" loss of the next generation Apple phone at a cafe, which was conveniently found by a tech blogger. The press will look silly when Rhys shows up in July with something that looks more like a dune buggy with a bunch of big wings.

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'to lloyd jhonson' look at the aston martin lola alms car and tell me they hevnt copied everything from it .the shape of the lights , the canards , the roof scoop and the spoiler and even the rectangular vent on the side . the most blatent ripoff ive probably ever seen . i thought rhys millen was quite unique with is styling espicially with the genisis drift car and the solstice drift car wich , both were pretty cool looking and origanal . this is just embarassing . - seriously look

http://www.flickr.com/photos/old_boone/4385681597/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/old_boone/4381187994/

www2.highlandstoday.com/exposure/ar/659/372/2... am i correct .

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to - rich_hobo94 . to say this is a rhys millen designed machine is the most idiotic thing ive ever hered

they ripped of the lola aston martin bo9 60 .

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To all the people who say it to low .It a rendering ,Not the actual car !!!!The final product will have the same ground clearance as his old mans tocoma did ,Im picking that it will run the same kind of chassie as the tocoma aswell .Just because the top look like a DP car ,does not mean that whats underneth is the same .Im pretty sure that as far as things to do with pike peak go ,Rhys & Rod have more knowlage in there left nut that all of you put together .Rod,Steve & Rhys have not put together multi millon dollor company's by cutting corners and not know what they are doing .

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I'm with George, that's obviously a publicity stunt. And Rod, Steve, and Rhys aren't arrogant as Rodwreck79 portrays, that they would not themselves admit that they learn something new every day..

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i think rhys and co. know how to build a car capable of tackling the peak better than most. it seems to me most people commenting on this article havent witnessed many of the cars that participate in this race. considering rod millen held the record for years before most of the asphalt was laid. whatevs, im sure he will hold his own in whatever he brings...

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I agree with Rodwreck79 -Tj .When you compair the millens to most but not all of the people that have made comments on this blog ,They are worlds apart in skill and knowlage .But this is the Interweb and everyone has a say no matter how ill-informed ,stupid or close bred they are .

As for the car , Are they going to turn up with daytona prototype -NO ,Are thy going to turn up with a custom build with a sports car looking body -MAYBE ,Is it a publicity stunt-YES , Is it working ,YES .

Are his sponser happy ,YES !!



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I see a trend in this. I predict nest year's Baja 1000 will be packed with F1 and Indy cars.

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I just ran a Google search for Rhys Millen + fool, and it returned 8,750 pages. Then I ran a Google search for Rhys Millen + idiot, and it returned 10,900 pages. Rich, Rod, and Smokey, the emperor has no clothes and the people questioning your hero know more about racing that you or your hero does.

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I just ran a Google search for Rhys Millen + god, and it returned 14,400 pages. Then I ran a Google search for Rhys Millen + Legend, and it returned 17,400.



QED: The sequel is better.

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haha thats the funniest and the weakest argument ever made even by the low standards of the internet... and i agree... the sequel is much better ;)

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Why didn't Rhys enter a top fuel funny car into the 24 Hours of Sebring? That's just as dumb as this idea.

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The Brickyard is next month, Rhys still has time to enter a monster truck into the Indy 500!

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PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT SEEING A PROTOTYPE STYLED CAR RUNNING PIKES PEAK! wow.. I know haters gonna hate, but the guys that are complaining about this car are on some next level, gay shit. Have you idiots ever seen how slammed the Suzuki Escudo is?? They run all kinds of shit at at Pikes Peaks... Semi Trucks for fucks sake... & I'm pretty sure the family who held the record for over 13 years knows a little more than any of you could ever hope to know about anything. & someone tell me what makes a DTM touring car a c class or a 3 series. FUCKING FAGS, STOP CRYING & ENJOY.



http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/suzuki/escudo_1.jpg

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/04/rhys-millens-unlimited-pikes-peak-car-with-a-41-liter-hyundai-genesis-v6-we-go-beneath-the-skin.html

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This thread is a good illustration of why people who's only experience with racing is video games, should not be allowed into a race car or anywhere near a race track. Gamers don't care about the actual function of an automobile. They just want a cool looking skin to put on their car icon and what mathematical variables some geek coded in to go along with the skin to represent some imaginary performance level. People who own wrenches and have dirt under their fingernails know by looking at a car and its structure if it is going to work or not. A circuit car on gravel?! That only works in video games. Leave the real racing to those of us who build and drive. Stay in your virtual world where you can hit the start button every time you slam into the wall.

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SPECIFICATIONS

Chromoly frame and roll cage

Two Quaife differentials

Weismann semi-automatic AWD transmission

Tilton Racing clutch

3.8-liter Lambda V6 engine stroked to 4.1-liters

HKS T04Z turbocharger

Bar and plate intercooler

Custom RMR stainless exhaust manifolds

Carbon fiber Brembo brakes and pads

17-inch HRE wheels

275/40 Toyo rear tires

RMR customer carbon fiber body with front and rear diffusers

Active wing by Aeromotions



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i have not once said i know more or better than rhys millen or any other race driver , nor have i complained about a prototype styled car competing at pikes . what i was saying and highlighting is the fact that the bodywork is 'COMPLETELEY COPIED' from another companies car . this is an insult to me , you and any other motorsports fan , because its so blatant its unbelievable .



and to 'ez-yi' you are tho most ill informed on here pal . the suzuki escudo is not a rip off copy off another car thats the only gripe i have with this car . and just because the millen family held the record for 13 years does that mean they are intitled to copy other companies products so blatantly .



and another mistake in your comment - what 2 marques compete in dtm ? - - oh yes audi and mercedes . - so where does the 3 series come from ?????? oh yes BMW , wich have never competed in the new dtm wich was inaugarated in 2000 or the older dtm at all . so after ive tidied up your pathetic post back to the original subject .



i have nothing against rhys millen , i respect him greatly , like i do with any other motorsports driver . but the single thing that only a few of us can see on this project is the fact he as completely copied the design of another car . i thought the people on this sight had a good eye for detail giving all the brilliant cars we are shown on here . but the sad thing is you dont beed a good eye for detail to see RMR have ripped the lola aston martin bo9-60 of . even stevie wonder could have seen it .



know i ask you look at this link and tel me that RMR havnt copied the design .



all the best to rhys millen and RMR i am just shocked that they did it so obviously .

KNOW LOOK AT THIS AND TELL ME THEY HAVNT COPIED IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!.

ESPECCIALLY EZ-YI , YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/old_boone/4385681597/



http://www.flickr.com/photos/old_boone/4381187994/



EXACTLY THE SAME .



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wow said: Two Quaife differentials

These are helpless on gravel because they require resistance to engage. These are a pavement only appropriate item. Might as well be running open diffs, the result is the same.

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i think quaife make diffs wich are suitable off road aswell , they supply wrc and rallycross cars such as .

the doran rs2000 and the p&o mg metro 6r4 .



i truly understand your statement though with the resistance factor .

just and looked on quaife site they do make offfroad diffs ;)

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Ryanoldo, you are a liar.

http://www.quaife.co.uk/

"We’re currently in the process of rebuilding our website..."

The manufacturer's website is down and has no product details.

However, this statement can be found verbatim in many threads concerning the product"

"Another difference for some is that the Quaife does need at least some resistance on both wheels to work properly."

All of you who thought Automatic Torque Biasing Differentials could be used on gravel, raise your hands. Now, turn over your car keys and driver's licenses, you have just forfeited your right to drive. Go back to your entertainment center, pick up your game controller, and continue your life as a couch potato, leave the racing to the professionals.

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Here are some pic's

They show the body - cage - engine



http://www.worldcarfans.com/110042025760/rmr-hyundai-genesis-pm580-revealed-for-pikes-peak-hill/lowphotos#1



The body is a modifided -Palmer Jaguar Jp1 Prototype !! Not a Lola Aston Martin



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lol the quaife website worked for me m8 . why do you use the word quaife as if they only produce one type of product . if they supply a 4wd 500 hp mg metro 6r4 that runs in the british rally cross championship how can you say they dont supply offroad suitable products . plus they even sponsor the british rallycross championship .



look .http://www.rallycrossuk.com/

the only thing i said was quaife do make products suitable for offroading purposes such as rallying , rallycross and others . i didnt get into any of the technical side of things , all i said was -----------



QUAIFE DO MANUFACTURE PRODUCTS SUITABLE FOR OFFROADING PURPOSES .



LOL I HAD TO LAUGH AT THIS ...

Now, turn over your car keys and driver's licenses, you have just forfeited your right to drive. Go back to your entertainment center, pick up your game controller, and continue your life as a couch potato, leave the racing to the professionals. IDIOT .



oh yeah and if your going to quote me , atleast get my username correct .

i await your next post full of technical explanations wich you are obviously trying to impress somebody with . OVER TO YOU .

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I heard Rhys will be entering a dog sled team in the America's Cup yacht race, right after he finishes equipping all of the New Zealand navy submarines with screen doors.

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to 'wow' .im not saying the body is from a lola aston martin lol - dont be daft, im saying that they copied the disign from it there is a difference lol.

at least have the decency to read my post properly next time .

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It is surprising to find someone so anxious to demonstrate their total ignorance of a subject as Ryanoldo.

Please paste any link to a page on the Quaife.Co.UK website which describes the ATB differential and states that it is appropriate for use on gravel or a rally car. The link MUST start with “http://www.quaife.co.uk”. You, of course, can not do this, because the manufacturer’s website is not up. Your claim to reading information claiming these differentials are for rally use is a lie.

Here is a quote from Quaife’s product information: “Whilst requiring some torque in the slipping wheel, the Quaife unit is progressive in action but never locks - controlled power is transmitted to all the driving wheels.” This is why the unit will not function when one drive wheel is in the air, on dirt, or on gravel.

Your attempt at misdirection concerning sponsorships is invalid, irrelevant, and incorrect. There are no rules requiring that a sponsor of a car, a race, or a racing series, make or sell a product that is legal or even effective for use on the car that is sponsored, or for any of the cars entered in a race or racing series. Cars and races are sponsored by retail stores (Target, Pro Bass Shop, Dollar General, Lowes, Home Depot, Menards), restaurants (McDonalds, Taco Bell), alcoholic beverage bottlers (Busch, Budweiser, Miller, Asahi, Martini & Rossi), tobacco companies (Winston, Japan Tobacco, Imperial Tobacco, Skol, Benson & Hedges, Marlborough), drug and herbal remedies (Phiser, Viagra, Enzite, Extenze, Herbalife), and sportswear (Hugo Boss, Izod). Several of these products are either completely unrelated to racing, or are outright illegal for use in a race car or at a race track.

Additionally, numerous racing series require the use of a specific brand of product on all of the cars competing. A good example of this is races with a tire sponsor. These requirements do not in any way keep other tire companies from entering their sponsored cars into races which require the use of a product which they do not make.

Quaife’s sponsorship of a rally race is immaterial to the fact that they do not make a differential that can be used in a rally car or on dirt or gravel. The posted specifications claiming the use of Quaife ATB differentials in a Pikes Peak car is as absurd as entering a circuit track car into a rally hill climb event.

Ryanoldo, please feel free to set down your game controller and demonstrate more of your utter ignorance concerning all topics related to automobiles and racing.

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How is it a copy .All they have done is put an aerodynamic lid over the cockpit and increased the ground clearence were needed & added a bigger wing to a palmer jp prototype body .RMR have copied the lola when making this car about the same as Mclaren copied the M8A when designing the MP4-12C .

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Once again here are the spec that were taken out the RhysMillen.com web site .

SPECIFICATIONS

• Chromoly frame and roll cage

• Two Quaife differentials

• Weismann semi-automatic AWD transmission

• Tilton Racing clutch

• 3.8-liter Lambda V6 engine stroked to 4.1-liters

• HKS T04Z turbocharger

• Bar and plate intercooler

• Custom RMR stainless exhaust manifolds

• Carbon fiber Brembo brakes and pads

• 17-inch HRE wheels

• 275/40 Toyo rear tires

• RMR customer carbon fiber body with front and rear diffusers

• Active wing by Aeromotions



So there is no point moaning about the diffs ,Because unless they have forgoten what kind of diff they are using . They are RIGHT, You are Wrong .

You Both seem to be getting your fact from Uk sites ,Ever thought that there could be different product in different markets ,Or that they could be Prototype or Custom made parts .

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Diirty said:

"So there is no point moaning about the diffs ,Because unless they have forgoten what kind of diff they are using . They are RIGHT, You are Wrong .

You Both seem to be getting your fact from Uk sites ,Ever thought that there could be different product in different markets ..."

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Not moaning, laughing, at such an amateur mistake.

Quaife make one and only one type of differential, the ATB, which is completely unsuitable for dirt and gravel. The design and models are identical in all markets.

The car is a an obvious fake and the details of the drivetrain confirm it.

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