New Cars>> Rmr Hyundai Genesis Formula Drift Car

Hyundai and Rhys Millen Racing announced their new Formula Drift Hyundai Genesis Coupe at the Chicago Auto Show, earlier today.

Speedhunters will recognise the wide body kit from the ‘Art of Speed’ Hyundai Genesis shown at SEMA last year.

The car has been designed and built by Rhys Millen Racing, and will compete in Formula Drift, selected Redline Time Attach events and even Pikes Peak!

Millen has already tested the car at Road Atlanta recently.

Powered by a 550bhp 4.1 Litre V6 Turbo charged unit and clothed in Carbon Fibre bodywork, the team are aiming for a curb weight of 2400lbs.  A good example of weight reduction is the drivers door. The standard component is 68lbs, by RMR’s composite version is just 8.5lbs!

The car also features RMR eight point roll cage,  APR GTC-500 rear wing, Sparco racing seat, KW Suspension, Enkei and rides on Toyo Tires.

Great looking car and its nice to see some of the carbon fibre left exposed with the livery design. The Formula Drift season starts on April 10th at Long Beach, California.

– Andy Blackmore

Rhys Millen

Formula Drift

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1

4.1L V6? Come on? Where's the 4B11T Rhys? Looks good though. Can't wait to see how it performs. So, is that V6 a Hyundai engine?

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O_O



stunning...

3

Wow!

It's possible to follow the formula drift on satellite for euro people?

4

I never thought I'd use the words "awesome" and "Hyundai" in the same sentence....but that is one AWESOME looking Hyundai. (^_^ )

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im happy to see a big company team up with a company not known for drifting. plus the Genesis is just sick

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probably a hyundai V6, the turbo 4 is the base engine but a 300hp V6 is available in thee genesis coup

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Excellent! I've been waiting for this car for a while now. I would love one with the 2.0T and a 6-speed.

8

That original livery was actually cool.



This one..... not so much.

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kinda looks like someone uppercut punched it in the jaw...but hey, a rwd hyndai is a rwd hyndai

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The engine is based on the standard Hyundai v6 unit, bored out etc etc.

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Personally I like the livery, but the actual placement of the Red Bull logo on the side is poor. Its good pratice to position the logo in line with surface or shutlines near by (eg bottom of window, door) and not the floor, as when you do this, your logo looks like is not straight. Image 4 shows that

11

Officially NOT invited to All Star Bash.

Car is too ugly.

12

I thought the point was to showcase the V8 engine. Another marketing coup missed.

14

Dude. Formula D cars can be so lame. Weak offset and weak stance.

15

Anyone up for answering KaoKao? Love to know myself ^_^



It really sucks that drift really doesn't get televised around europe....

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TOYO tires?



i thought Toyo pulled out of FD completely...or were they just "cutting" all their drivers to make room for RMR?

17

I liked the Solstice more

18

I find myself actually wanting an Hyundai...

19

holy fender gap. i want to be optimistic just because i think it's good hyundai is trying to make a big move into higher quality, and fun cars. but this example of the car is really boring, it doesn't really have any character.



i look at jtp's car and i go," wow i want to see that slide," i look at this car and go," .... okay,"

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Finally, a good looking drift car! I'm becoming very impressed with Hyundai's new lineup. I hope they do well, they deserve it for going from the horrible Accent and Sonata to the Genesis coupe and V8 sedan in a little less than a decade!

21

DAMN KOREAN CARS SUCK....LOOKS LIKE A G35 HAD SEX WITH A SCION TC ...

23

Argh, I had hope for this car.



Dual canards fail, maybe just one set is better.

2 tone color fails, should've gone all blue or something nicer.

Livery fails, its just ugly, Giant Hyundai logo on top and all over! WTF?

Wheels could be better, fail.

GT wing fail, looks like some Autozone thing.



I like the Genesis Coupe, just not so much this one. Ah well Formula D continue their Ugly car style in 2009.

24

Officially DO invite in Summer Slamm!

550bhp in my Ass

25

Thank god they didn't keep the hyundai livery, that made the car look so awful, much better now with its current scheme.

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oh, !!



another "me" ???

27

Also agree the RedBull livery is wayyyyyyyyy better looking.

Really cool to see a company like Hyundai taking interest in drifting. If they play their cards right the Genesis could be an extremely popular tuner car.

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also, cool placement of CIRCUIT CITY logos.

Maybe those will keep them in business?

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some of you people really don't have a clue about race cars.



1. That wing has been CFD tested, it works, its there for a reason. Its not a styling exercise. WTF

2. Without Red Bull AND Hyundai you wouldn't have a car!! Simple as that.

Why can't Hyundai have their own logos on their own car. WTF (to quote....) Its better than the livery from SEMA, but not as good as the Audi DTM design.

3, Koopa, like other racecars, fender gap is there for a reason on a race-car. A race car main purpose is to win, not to have nice styling

4, Those Canards. They look a little thick, but I doubt they put two on just for looks, they are their for a reason. I agree, the splitter and the canards look a little cheap

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Circuit City is (was) the series sponsor of FD Brian

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Sketch MC - It was the same ignorant comments around the 70's when Honda, Datsun and Toyota were breaking into North America and Europe.... Like it or not, Hyundai are a force to be reckoned with now. Open your eyes its 2009. I can see a little G35/7 in it, but Scion??? It has four wheels, its a coupe....thats where it ends.

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why do we have to put . for a space between paragraphs,

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I agree with Señor Blackmore in that whillest I think the Livery is cool.... it is slightly off ideal placement.

But really.. I think this is Hands down the Coolest Hyundai Ive ever seen ever!

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Sorry, I guess it may have come as a shock to learn Circuit City will no longer exist very soon.

I guess some people don't know that.

32

Toyo tires, huh? I guess since Tanner isn't with Toyo, Rhys took his spot?

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Can't wait to see this Hyundai in action, especially in the hands of Rhys Millen! Hopefully we'll get to see some videos of it smoking the tires on Youtube~

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Bob, is correct. according to the press release, the rear wing was tested with CFD. Wouldnt make sense to use an untested win, in this day and age.



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Fender gap - Its common on circuit cars. TBH not sure why, I've heard that it helps release air pressure from withwin the wheelarch, and I've also heard it allows more movement going over kerbs/rumble strips. In addition, I suppose the extra clearance would also be helpful in something like BTCC, where there is lots of rubbing.



Not so relevant to drifting though.



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Canards - Thats a real black art. I see lots of teams use two stacked like this though. I'm pretty sure they 'sandwich' the air flow, helping to direct it. I read an article in racecar engineering about that area and so much downforce can be obtained in that area with Canards and the area around it.



andy

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Some of you people have to understand that Drifting is not racing. Is this a race car or a drift car?

What does a casual fan like me care about damn CFD tested GT wing? It looks cheap and ugly.

Not everyone that goes to FD or D1 is a car expert. We love to see drifting but is it too much to ask for the cars to actually look nice? Drift cars are supposed to be slammed, flush, kitted and cool. The Hyundai Genesis is a sweet sports car, I'm glad they're finally doing good things with their platforms. THIS car however, gets a C- for too much corporate style and not enough drift style. I'm just glad its not a complete fail which usually is the case when it comes to FD cars.

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Look, Rhys Millen came into drifting as an outsider who never should have been there.



At drift showoff he came into a competition with his rally car Evolution. Everybody else had little street car 240s. Every single car that he built since then is just the same.



There are those that will say that it is the "sport progressing".



Big deal.





To make the car perform so well, you have to make it look like a pile of garbage. It's really simple.

Plaster ugly logos on it (for your sponsors that are going to go out of business next year anyways after they realize that drifting is a big money WASTER), make it so high (to get the greatest performance factor for the drift Racing), put wings and canards and whatnot (to gain perfect measurements and calculations at the track), come in with a WINNING attitude (because god forbid people do this for fun).

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I am also interested in the origin of this engine....a bored up 3.8 v6?

38

qupte -

"Look, Rhys Millen came into drifting as an outsider who never should have been there."



Sorry, is drifting a closed club??? come on.........

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if want to win and people like Rhys will do, then you have to make the best car you can within the rules (unless your are TWR).

You might not like or appreciate it, but a modern day high end Drift car is built like a race car. Read some of the car features on here. Don't like it? tough.

The reality with most forms of motorsport (is drifting motorsport...?) the rule makers make new rules to bring costs down.....teams develop their cars and costs go up as teams try to beat each other..... examples in FD would be this Hyundai, the Dodge Challenger and possibly the new Mustang.

As I said, wake up its 2009. if you don't like it blame the rule makers for not locking down the rules, not the people who build, design and engineer the cars...their job is to beat the competition, within the rules...no matter what.

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well, THAT was an interesting phone call....





bob... Do you really think I don't understand that the cars are built now to be the "best"? Come on.....



If you want to win... if your sponsors want you to win.... of COURSE you are going to build the "best" car out there. I passed 2nd grade. I can understand the concept.



I've expressed my opinion on here, other places, on the PHONE. It's my opinion on the topic. Am I wrong? Is my opinion wrong?



No, it isn't.





My opinion is and probably always will be, these new "race car" drift cars are dumb as hell.



You brought up the Challenger, Mustang, and Hyundai. Great... I don't like any of them. Should I change my opinion to please you?



Rhys and his team have always built amazing cars that perform great. Please don't ASSUME things or put words in my mouth. Those cars just simply don't belong in drifting. period.





Enjoy the evening, I'm going out to dinner.

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AT Drift Showoff ! not all the cars were "little street 240's" !



theyre were only a few , actually only 3 were good , benson ,gushi (blew his trans) and jic bryan norris ! the rest were AE86 "STREET/TOUGE" guys ! and some were fc's and the lame accord and Rhys!



but i agree U.S came into drift too fast and too corporate w/ companies jumping in and not knowing shit! and even lame ass forum rich kids from 2003 could get sponsored in 2 yrs ! or get big w/ mommy's wallet or the typical concieted socal dude who thinks he's good , but a dude from the east coast was even better..or worse let a V10 viper w/ a snow driver get in the 1st season of FD not knowing anything about japanese drifting and win the championship



the gap between team drifting,grassroots,touge street and what Japan went thru ,didnt happen with US drifting ............ and the style -------------it's UGLY !



Grab a 2000-2002 dori-ten or BM and forget the internet ,rumors, blogging



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ooohhh, handbags.

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I didnt put any words in your mouth. get over it. FD is getting more professional. blame the rule makers if you have an issue.

42

Wow..... I really didn't expect Rhys Millen to actually use that car for drifting. Thought he was going to build another Hyundai for drifting or something. Body kit looks overly done IMO, but that doesn't matter to me. Just hope the car is reliable enough to compete against the rest of the guys in FD.

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Looks aside, this car is sick. I doubt there are many people posting on here who can tell RMR how to build a championship winning car. It's nice to hear the comments and ponder them but Rhys knows what he's doing. He winning and keeping his sponsors happy so that sounds like a win to me.



And about the wheel gap. The car is also supposed to double for time attack. Suspension travel is important in the real world. A sick wheel fitment isn't worth crashing your car because the front doesn't hook up upon turn in.

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Yeah that's true, I think the only other "race" car was the JIC 180 that Bryan drove... and that was just a pretty basic 13 with bolt on stuff.

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Andy - I don't hate you at all. I don't know you. :) I do like motorsports. Of course things are going to grow. Music, racing, clothing brand, social groups. That's how things work.



You have people who go with it and keep it progressing. You have people who like it the old way and would rather not "sell out" (think music groups that are small and then become huge). Then you have people who really don't care. THEN finally, you probably have a tiny group that wants to keep it "real" but at the same time make it "big". That's me. If I can make more money off of drifting, but keep my same attitude about it. Great. I;ve already done a bit and would like to do more, but I still want to keep it what i KNOW it should be.











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OK people, please keep it civil and constructive!!!

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Lots of passionate posts on here. I'm a newbie to drifting and have a motorsport bias, so you probably hate me Brian HA!, but I can see where Bob is coming from a little. All forms of racing (and I include drifting in this for the sole purpose of making my point in a biased fashion :)! ) goes through this cycle where new rules, or even a new type of event originates. Budgets go up as competition increases and the grass-routes level gets left behind. Corporate sponsors and companies come in and it gets even more expensive.

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As an outsider, this appears to have happened very quickly in North America with drifting, and it hasn't quite reached that point in Japan, at least from what I see. The problem here, IMHO is that the regulations were not tight enough to stop this happening.... This happens all the time unfortunately.

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Problem is, make the rules too tight and you end up with a spec series which is often boring. It seems to me that Drifting, at least in North America, is at a bit of a cross roads, which cars like the RWD Scion, the Challenger and others.

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How does this get fixed?

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Now, discuss, but please be pleasant and constructive. End of public service announement.



Wai - Yes! The press release says the following...

The Hyundai Lambda 3.8-liter V6 engine, which comes standard on the Genesis Coupe 3.8, will be stroked to 4.1-liters and further enhanced by a Turbonetics turbocharger. An AEM engine management system will also be used. The engine will be mated to a HKS sequential transmission. The end result is a Genesis Coupe that will produce 550 horsepower and 520 lb.-ft. of torque.

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andy

47

Any car that can slide belongs in drifting! Regardless of its background.

The bigger and better drifting gets the better for everyone!

I think the car looks great. and no doubt it performs as good as it looks with Rhys and his team building it.



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Also, I need to add, it bugs me when people ASSUME things about what I say.

In case you didn't see it, I mentioned that I LIKED it in that previous livery... the blue and black, Hyundai logo.

49

You guys are getting a bit touchy.

Look, this car is just not cool man, thats all there is to it. Props to the build etc but yea its just ugly. It lacks personality and creativity. RMR has no style. Bob I think ur tone is a bit harsh. You're acting a bit arrogant. Of course drift cars are built like race cars but you know, drifting is supposed to be the fun and cool side of motorsports. Fine they can go ahead and build cars with all this R&D etc and whatever but at the end of the day the car has to have a good style or else it will just be boring. To me this car is a perfect example why drifting took off in US. Corporations thinking they can make money off of it. Where as in other parts of the world, drifting is about having fun! This car is just not fun. I dont care if it wins every damn FD competition of '09, it still wont capture the true essence of a drift car.

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bhworld.wordpress.com

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i think this car is kinda lame and you will probably never see this car in grass roots drifting... i think cars like Justin Pawlak rx7 or taka aono ae86 are really cool cars.

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Cool car, I'm sure a lot of engineering went into it.



Also, from what I know from some rail guys, Rhys is a nice enough fellow.



But, as mentioned, this car is not pretty.

53

BH: "To make the car perform so well, you have to make it look like a pile of garbage."



Heh, funny how that works. I recently read the D1 rulebook from Wrecked Mag's blog, and they don't accept the "grassroots" look. It seems like they've made it manditory for you to paste on 2tons of vinyl in order to compete.



About Rhys' car, I kinda wish it was using the HKS Kenstyle kit. But along with everyone, it looks like what'd happen if Hyundai jumped into NASCAR. Not the worst looking car, but most-def not the best looking one, either. This is really a toss-up.

54

Rhys: Hello mate, is this Brian Heart?



Brian: whos this?



Rhys: Rhys motha-fckin Millen ! why are you talking sh-t about my Hyundai mate?

I'll eat you and your f-ckin nissan with my 10 foot New Zealand Pen-s



Brian: hmmm hmmm hmmm



Rhys: thats right mate ! do a 110mph entry then talk ! for now suck my d-ck



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I think the Hyundai looks good. However the wheels need to be different and why have they decided to use a V6 turbo when everyone knows the 4 cylinder turbo or N/A V6 would be better.

IMO this car looks alot better than Mad Mikes RX7 as its way too low and wide.

When i saw it a while ago with the 3 rotor it got hardly any angle and smoke but the crowd loved it so it had to get into top 16.

Best of luck to Rhys this year hopefully he beats the way uglier Challenger,Tc and Mustang.

56

Craziness! Mad mikes FD is just gangster! Way to gangster for this car! lol. I like JR's mustang a lot better too.

57

why are u such a whiney bitch?

58

bh!

west coast!

yeah!

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Mr BH is the guardian of the drift spirit, didn't you know. He invented drifting in Japan, meaning he is in no way a bandwagon jumper or an outsider. First there was BH, then there was drifting. Rough World, Marionette, Burst were all disciples of his one true drift car style. He was on the cover of very first issue of Drift Tengoku, google that sh*t mannnn.

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For the people who are saying "this car looks ugly" well yeah it may be but thats a matter of taste. Rhys designed the bodykit to maximize airflow to the radiators, intercoolers, etc and to maximize downforce and I don't think that is a problem. I personally think the COLORS on the new V6 version is way better than the 2.0T version. If you think it is a rip-off design, then you don't know ANYTHING about design. The factory car does have a unique look (DLO, character lines) and there is no denying it. For goodness sake the guy who designed the Genesis Coupe is now in charge of the Advanced Design Studio in Mercedes-Benz as of this month! (Just Google Joel Piaskowski)



Yes the 4.1 Turbo V6 is a turbocharged and bored version of the factory 3.8L V6.

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Oh yeah, I'll be sending an invoice tomorrow for all this coverage I'm helping this car get.

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Rhys /Genesis in ASB = EPIC



BH in FD = FAIL



Rhys in BH = Koala

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I agree with everything Section09 has said.



A true corporate sponsor drift car should go along the lines as Mad Mikes FD.

That car still has the essence of grass-roots drifting, slammed, ridiculous body kit,

mad offset, mad wide wheels. Only now he's sponsored.



This BS hyundai or scion crap is just pure 100% marketing, nothing else. Period.

Whether you admit it or not, thats the fact. Yes ok it's badass cause it's been dipped

in CF and has a roll cage worth more than my life, but like others says, no style.



If this car can do 110mph entires, it will never have the style and feel of a fresh JZX100

doing a 80mph entry.



USA has turned this into a speed competition more than an overal style competition.

Yes entry speed is judged in japan too but it's not nearly as emphasized as it is in USA,

and it seems in USA they build the car solely to have the fastest entry speed while not crashing.

64

Wow this is hilarious.

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We have BH doing his normal call it how it is.

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Then bam, Rhys hunts down bh's number, calls and cries like a baby to him on the phone? Awesome!

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Although I'm a huge fan of the Hyundai, I think it can get some impressive looks, but Rhys' car just flat out sucks I'm sorry. It's definitely a possible car for me in the future, but by then I hope someone like BN Sports makes some impressive aero for it and not something like this.

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Man that car looks GREAT? OMG:| Have I said that about a Hyunday?! I just did:)) Well it does look very nice. Not really the usual drift car, but this thing is meant for RACING and not looking slick on the asfalt. If you'd seriously have in mind to build a car to compete with in time attack, Formula Drift and even Pikes Peack events, well that sould be the stance to go for. I mean how the hell do you think you could go to Pikes Peak with streched tires on Watanabee's and a fender gap smaller than a sheet of paper!? C'mon people, THINK !!! Anyway, it's a bold ambition, I'd expect it to fail in there goals, being a Hyunday and all, but.... who know? I mean, Rhys Millen is involved, the man who created the monster Pikes Peak Celica that held the record at Pikes Peak for year and years !!! Best of luck! Peace !!!

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Gah. This car is disgusting, why can't people learn from people like Justin Pawlack and build NICE cars that still perform well. this isn't racing, those canards are hideous, and why is there a quick refueling thing on the back? Does he have to stop and go in a matter of seconds?



ah whatever, competition cars usually suck,



i still love the genesis.

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rhys millen actually called BH over internet comments. that's just impressive.





also chris, pikes peak, stretched wats? i fail to see what argument you're trying to make

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why does the rhys millen racing logo look similar to the junction produce logo?

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I understand where everyone is coming from, personally I just want to take drifting anyway I can get it. This car is multi-purpose built, and Rhys has always had the "race car that drifts" not the "drift car that races" So you can definitely see where it gets its traits. I like it. I like the blue livery, and the red bull livery.

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As long as you're keeping it fun, let drifting evolve! To me, ASB is just as big as FD ATL. Why? Because has it's own style. In one realm you have nice ass cars going crazy with 7 car tandems and wheel fitment that is on the edge of impossible, and in the other you have high speed, high stakes, corporate sponsored competition. As long as both respect each other and aren't afraid to cross over, I think drifting will be A-OK.

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Did Rhys really call you BH? Lol. I hope it was a friendly hello!

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Since when was drifting a fashion show contest? Who gives a f-ck about how a car looks, watch a whole bunch of youtube videos of guys drifting in Japan on Ebisu or Nikko Circuit or where ever. Most of the cars are ratty assed beaters or dont look anything near a show room finish.

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One of the main points of drifting is style. If you don't know that then you don't know drifting.

Ratty ass beaters are the grassroots guys and they're truly what drifting is all about. All real pros come from there and build cars that are actually cool and fun to watch. Most of the US guys just jumped on the drifting bandwagon and have no idea how to truly represent the sport.

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Another point I'd like to make for the people that say this car is 'multi purpose' so thats why they built it this way. This isnt the first car built to be used in multiple racing types. The ORC Z from D1 a couple years ago and the JIC S15 were also drift cars that were also used for time attack and top speed trials. Both of those cars were waaay better this one.

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Car is butt ugly.



Every single body modification, the color scheme, everything about the car is butt ugly.



http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06Tz3fqfxk7kQ/610x.jpg



HKS can make a cool looking genesis. Why can't Rhys Millen? Maybe because he has no regard for style at all. To me that car says "I don't even remotely care about drifting or what it's about, I'm just here to WIN WIN WIN and collect my sponsorship paycheck".

73

Damn, those race car become more and more ugly every years ! I miss the time when drift was more like Figure skating, when the cars looked cool, with good stance, and when they loose aero everywhere ! Like ASB !

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the car was ugly before they touched it... true story... that's really all I have to say. There is fanboi drifters like a mofo in here trying too hard to be japanese, it's america don't like how they bastardized your sport. Well the mexicans are in line first to complain about how they got jobbed for their land before the japanese complain about how we stole drifting and made it our gift whore for advertising red bull.



go to japan for your justice and leave, or just shut the fuck up and keep enjoying what you enjoy.



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hahahaha



rhys want my phone number too so you can argue with me why your car sucks?

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Where are the cool looking drift cars? Can't wait for D1 to get back and show people style.

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Haha, all the haters out there, He'll ( Rhys ) would still clean you up on the track in that car :)

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I'm pretty sure nobody (even me) said the car isn't going to perform well.

That isn't the issue.

If you can't see that, you need to research more.

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To tell you the truth I'm sad to see Rhys give up on Pontiac like that. Now I know about 95% think American cars should be in Drifting. I think there should be more but thats not the point right now. Rhys is not Rhys with out Pontiac. The car was Rhys. Its like JTP with the FC, Chris Forsberg with the V8 350Z, Tony Angelo with the RX8, Bubba Drift with the El Camino, JR with the Mustang, Sam Hubinette with a Mopar, Ross Petty with a S13- S15, Ryan Hampton with the 69 Camaro, Taka Aono with the AE86. Those cars are them and I can't see them in anything else. Its the same with Taner going to a TC. To me the 350Z hard top was him. And if the car looks more like a race car so what. That is the Rhys Millen style. I can't see him in something like JTP's FC. Its just not him.

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Sooo how much is BH charging Rhys for all this publicity, you would swear after a phonecall to a little known amateur drifter that this was a summit between the two biggest names in american drifting, I guess Rhys thinks it is....

RMR at ASB for drift-deathmatch killer NOW.

end.

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LOLWUT?-They did look like ratted ass beaters BACK IN THE DAY where people really didn't give a shit about style. But as time progressed, they didn't want their drift cars look like beaters. One such examples would be the Sexy Knights crew.

http://www.geocities.jp/knights_1993/suc8.html

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I think this is all really stupid. All the little Formula D hard on boys clashing with the people who do this crap for fun. There are two kinds of people in this thread lets equate them to snowboarders and skiiers.

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FD people and Rhys ( OH yeah Rhys I never liked you, you havealways come off as a soiled prissy know it all who throws tantrums when people dont bow down and kiss your feet. Its sad, your a grow man) - You are skiers you go up and down the hill with the best equipment as fast as you can. Alot of your fashion sucks and you all think its all about performance. You were queer looking stuff like aero dynamic helmets and look dumb cause it makes you a better skiier.

your cars are ugly as crap. Too high, horrid fitment. Stupid sponsor stickers everywhere that just muck things up. You don't do this for fun anymore. You just want to win and be the best and be famous and make all this money and have big fake titty plastic girls on each arm.

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BH, me, cool people - (yes I severely lack track expirience I currently drive an automatic SC400 that would basically define fan boi) these people are snow boarders. They do more than just go up and down the mountain. They care every second about how they look. Go big or go home. Fashion is as important as skill. they love their sport, who cares about being the most up to date, having the best performing equipment. They want to look good while doing something the would pay to do. Something they love. Who gives a crap what other people think but those who think the same as them.

These cars are the sweet cars. Super low, cool ftiment, cool offset.., Outrageous colors. When i think of this i think of friends and fun. What this shit should be.

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CHRIST you all suck. The car is a hyundai. I have seen better looking ones posted all over. 4x4 ride height, ugly assed canards, the wing isnt horrible but doesnt really fit, and the absolutely horrendous vinyl lay out just make the car look rushed. IT FAILS. RPF1s on a drift car yeah it makes sense but you see the same wheels on a honda. the RPF1s just have no style. they work thats it. This car has no style it works.

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What happened to "if you don't have anything nice to say..." All this talk about what a drift car should and shouldn't be, drifitng should just be for fun, certain people should stay out of drifing. WTF? Is this the fifties? Its like automobile-segregation up in here? So you haters are saying that drifting is about fun and style? Do you think that rhys doesn't have fun drifting, it's just a paycheck? I bet he made more from stunt driving in one year than he ever did in 5 yrs of drifting. Style? Do you think that rhys thinks his car is ugly? why should your drift car style, be his? The west coast grass roots drift scene is a lame high school party with no girls and a bunch of dudes talking sh*t and patting each other on the back for their attempts at being japanese. grow up.

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I'm gonna say my useless .02 here.

I hope that FD drivers crash into Millen's car so much that his sponsor drop him cause they run out of $$$ to fix his "super pooper C/F'ed out car.

Millen's car easily cost $200,000 (if not more). Then you have young folks that show up on their beat-up S13 and race him. That's fair.....NOT !

Drifting just became super lame here in the US. There must be stricter rules on budget, mods and so forth. (like every motorsport classes).

Why does Rhys' Hyundai need a dry break for? Why does it need air jacks for? Those thing belong on a race car that need quick pit stop; not on a Korean car?

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DEAR MOM,



I love on the east coast.



Thank you



Love,

SRS

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Section09 - Well i obviously dont know what drifting is about then. IT must be about how a car looks and not how the driver or the car performs. What kind of retard sticks on BN-sports body kits and Emo Kai wheels and drifts it, before they even buy the essential needs to drift. Your logic does not make sense at all.



Drifting is about having fun, if your not having fun, youre doing it wrong.



Alex - Whats the matter? Getting all worked up because Hyundai is getting a piece of the action? Chill the f-ck down. This guy is earning millions, obviously hes doing something right. Scratch that.. there is no right or wrong to drifting.. just f-cking do it.



To finish off my rant, all you Nissan JDM fan boys, pipe the f-ck down. You may speak for a certain aspect of drifting but you dont speak for the law of physics. Sure a car looks badical with a belly scraping -1000 camber stance, but its not going to be effective as a car thats properly setup. Theres nothing you can do to change it, but whine like a little girl infront of your keyboards. So shut your bitch holes its getting annoying.

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Dear SRS BZNS,



move in with BH.

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Why doesn't something cool happen in american drifting? like team drift competitions for the grassroots, fuck it would make everyone stop caring about this junky FD stuff and all these ugly cars and actually just enjoy drifting for what it is, fun.

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Dear BH,

Can I move in with you?

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bff bh - ZIPTIED ALL STAR BASH. Unless you've been hiding under a rock... or a professional drift racing canopy, you would have heard of this and seen videos/photos. All Star Bash is just what you need. The next one (July 25/26) is going to be THE best yet. Hottest team drifting comp coming up. Make sure you're there.



Thanks for the support.



kisses and love to all.

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fd lacks heart. don't nascar drifting.









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Rhys is not running a Hyundai motor, he is running a VQ.





THIS IS ALL

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You guys have got way to much time, hes gonna drift it no matter what you think of it. Next year he'll prob have a new car anyway, as for the ride hieght etc, its not just a drift car. It states its going to be used for multiple race events.



Personally i think its kinda ugly but hey, they tryed

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Brian I know about asb, but I'm talking somewhat more of a legit series, something run on tracks like htm, willow springs, thunderhill, maybe primm nevada parking lot? just cool locations that are somewhat close to the west so a fair amount of drivers could go, it would rock I'm sure kind of an msc of western america doing team drift at all kinds of tracks throughout the year, payout doesn't have to be much or anything more than a number 2 at wendys but it would be a series for people out to have fun not make money. As awesome as asb is and it's definitely tons of fun it's just a two day event then it's gone for six months.

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I officially am putting this out to Hyundai.





Let me build a street style Genesis drift car.



Obviously there is a huge divide on the new RMR Genesis that came out. Half the people like it, half the people agree with me.





BH World Genesis vs. RMR Genesis.





I'm serious.



We;ll have a little drift battle at Horse Thief Mile just like the promo video.





You have my contact info.

Let me know.

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Today, I posted pictures of the new racecar for Formula D. BH stirred up a huge storm about it and I started crying and called him to ask him to stop. Why is BH so much smarter than me? FML, mate.

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LOLWUT? - my comment isnt trying to prove what the logic of drifting is, lol. ONE of the main points of drifting is style, not all of it. Next time, Don't be so fast to respond without thinking about what your gonna say. I will agree with you on one point of your response. "Drifting is about having fun, if your not having fun, youre doing it wrong" Thats damn right on man. Also, stop just assuming that everyone is a JDM fan boy. When did anyone mention anything about JDM anything? I think you're the one that should calm down kid. Coming on here cursing your mouth off saying ignorant things doesn't make you right. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just because you don't agree with me or others doesn't mean we should "pipe the f-ck down" or "shut our *** holes". SPEEDHUNTERS is about car talk and thats what we're doing. If you wanna come on here and act like a 5 year old because you dont like what people are saying, then do us all a favor and go back to your scion forum and to get your E-thug on there. Give it a couple more years and maybe you'll mature enough to come back here.

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this car is BACK BREAKINGLY awesome

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while that car is fuckin ugly and there are only about 3 or 4 good looking cars in FD... BH is a fuckin cry baby wiener. eat a dick pussy.

100

This car would be cooler stock.

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Alex, Kumakubo's 2006 championship car was for sale for $150,000 USD. How much do you think it cost to build? Are you going to complain that he isn't giving young Japanese dudes are chance in their beat up S13's. Kumakubo also runs shi*ty no dish Enkei's on his cars with less than slammed ride height, will you mock him? No, because you are all blinkered fan boys. I don't think Millen's car looks great either (better than Nomukens however), but if you think Kumakubo, Koguchi and all the other OG drift guys are running suspension on the bumpstops and ridiculous guard rubbing dish (I love this look by the way) instead of optimum traction setups, then you have never seen top level Japanese competition (note competition) drifting. Both forms of drifting should be able to co-exist (i.e lifestyler and ultra competitive), I like to see massive entry speeds and pro drift cars picking up speed out of turns like they were four wheel drive just as much as I like seeing crazy offsett rims on 180 street cars. Just because a drift car doesn't look a certain way doesn't mean they are contravening some sort of drift religion, that only an handful of SoCal fanboys seem to believe in. BH, you are not the Pope of drift.

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Yea Yea did you just use the word wiener? I think you did. You fail just like the rest of the gay fan boys on here. You know all the comments and lame ass shit talking douche bags that posted here except for BH and a hand full of others are what make Drifting the gayest shit out there. You supposed know it alls that have been drifting since you were 15 in forza and NFS decide to post on here cuz you took the car your mom bought you and kicked it side ways. Anyways drifting needs to get back to the level it was when it first came to the US. Close nit community and fun, and no big name companies giving drivers 200k budgets to build cars. Anyways I highly doubt anything important or constructive will be said after this post so keep flamin like you were and keep the douchbaggery going. Your killing drifting one asshat post at a time!

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Even Japan drifting is ugly now.

Team Burst raised their cars.

The world is ending.

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I tihink it will be expensive to fix if crashed.

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Hey Russian... BH sucks. his whole internet persona sucks. he's a geek and he cries on zilvia all day long when his S14 was a terrible car with its +39239202 offset wheels and 4" spacers and stock KA and a body kit. ooooooooo. he gets being a giant wiener and pouting. and now you want to touch his peepee for him and make it all better. the only voice that kid is... is the voice of being totally lame and feminine. i'm better than you at forza. touge power elite!

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Quote "Why does Rhys' Hyundai need a dry break for? Why does it need air jacks for? Those thing belong on a race car that need quick pit stop; not on a Korean car?"



Actually, think about it...it needs these things because it's a Korean car hahaha

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Chris M.

Japanese professional drifting (D1) has horrid looking cars these days also. BUT there not as bad as FD cars YET.

FD is like the WWE of drifting. its motorsports entertainment with a twist of commercialism that is always headed up by the series golden boys.

every year Hubinette and Millen are out there driving the new car of the year ...GTO, charger, genesis, new challenger. etc.... selling out a life style they were never a part of.



FD is a joke, Millen is a gimmick .

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FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU......................

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Chris M.



Like brian said, stop inserting words into other peoples mouth's. i don't see anyone here praising those japanese cars,



Ugly is ugly, there's no way around that, and this car is UGLY. Drifting is all about looking cool, this car is the complete opposite of a cool drift car.



BH vs RMR 2009



let's get ready to rumble.

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I can see that "yeayea" is a fan of mine.

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When is Hyundai going to join NASCAR?

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Maybe the hate flows at FormulaD because drifting in Japan has always been rooted in style even though the cars have progressed away from that more recently. Take a look at the personal cars of the Japanese drivers. If they happen to own or operate a workshop, take a look at their customer cars. They know the score.

The way i see it Millen doesn't 'get it' nor does he want to. He'd never own a personal car that represents grassroots-street-drift style, whereas the drivers in Japan have owned many and still own cars to this day that show they understand the culture (and style) of drift.

It's purely motorsports to guys like Foust, Millen and Hubinette, that's why they'll always fail to be accepted by the wider drift community.

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This car is sick with the true drifterz style!



We featured it on ziptyed.com

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NoHarte:



I can't find it on ziptyed.com. the site must be down for some reason

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RicerX, I wasn't really referring to BH specifically in (most of) my second post, more the comments of Alex and the general feeling in this thread topic that pro-drift and wanting to win (and by this I mean building your car like a race car) is somehow contravening the spirit of drifting. Koguchi is an example of someone who has the respect of the instigator in all this, BH (I read his blog sometimes), but still drifts competitively and doesn't set his car up for optimum lowness/tramlining/crap handling. If he could afford air jacks I bet he would have them! OK this car looks too high, but the amout of vituperation it has unleashed seems disporportionate.... Mainly I find it irritating how so many people on here 'know what drifting is all about', did you invent drifting and in your founding manifesto state that it was all about looking cool? If you weren't in Japan in the late 80's you (including me) are all as much bandwagoners as Rhys Millen.

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STOP TRYING. ^

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Not born in the 80's guys, hurr durr you're bandwagon durrrrrrr

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It's about being in front of the most eyes the longest. It doesn't matter if kids cringe when it drives by 30 times as long as they buy more $3 pop. I wouldn't be surprised if Rhys worked out what it would look like from the other end of a cell phone,

So why would he care what you think of his car? I don't believe he called you.

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i just threw up all over my monitor

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this is an ugly ass car, full stop. it has the potential to look awesome, but thats been missed totally.

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If i team can afford all this reasearch and development, they can afford to make it look awesome. DTM cars skim the floor... they handle pretty good. its about the illusion of looking low, flushed and sweeeeeeeet. i see no point in missing that.

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i find it annoying that so many cars come out with a total lack of style, especially from the big teams that can afford to do new things and create new styles. to quote myself "it looks like a lego man shat on it"

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As much as people love to hate on this car, or love it, we've officially made this the most commented SH post. Half of these f***ing comments aren't even about the damn car.

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it's not our fault the car is ugly...

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i went over to the Pope's house to chill for a bit and we were planning to mess with his car. i got under it to start pulling the cage bolts out and he came over and ran his hand up my leg and tried to undo my belt. i flipped but before i could squirm away, he just looked at me and said, "it's cool bro i had Reese’s for breakfast” and i’m like “no way, you had candy for breakfast?” he replies, “not candy! Reese’s puffs cereal!” so he sliiiiides me a bowl. i crunch into it and WHAM! my mouth goes crazy! that smooth combo of peanut butter and chocolate-y taste attacking my taste buds!

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ALL HAIL THE POPE OF DRIFT!



RMR has done nothing for the "sport" except make it worse



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Earl, if you're the Earl I'm thinking of, i love you and keep making videos.



and cool story brah.

129

fuck millen's car

fuck US daytona style drifting



BH is god

ASB ftmfw

130

Great...... did Rhys tried calling BH again?

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YO DAWG



we herd you like vinyl - so we put some vinyl on your racecar vinyl so you can advertise while you advertise

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YO DAWG,



I HERD U LIKE DRIFT, SO WE PUT SOME RHYS MILLENS IN YOU HYUNDAI SO YOU CAN DRIFT WHILE YOU ADVERTISE.



WERD.

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It's all about the sponsors that support professional drifting.





NOT!

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Join the Cooooolest drift racing website on the planet!!!



Also, is this the KAI version?

139

This is a well built racecar that'll show its performance capability well.



Marketing.



I'm sure plenty of these'll show up on the carshow scene.

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step 1: forget about pro drifting

step 2: drift with friends

step 3: profit

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I heard this car was built with economic stymulus moneys...thats how hard core DriftRacing it is!!!!!

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uggg lee....ugg lee, ug lee, ug lee!, ug lee!!

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ok gentlemen... let's all take a breath and remember that this is but a car... not the end of society as we know it.



Professional drifting is certainly in the middle of a big shift in North America. Will be interesting to see what the knock on effect of this big budget machines is across the scene in 2-4 years time. Can the economy sustain these programs or will there be too much of a gap to privateer competitors?



Will the whole thing go the way of Sport Compact US drag racing? Maybe... maybe not.



Remember: the car that won the FD Championship for the past 2 years is a rather unremarkable 350Z which was recently sold to a guy in Scandinavia for 40K USD.

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